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Offline AmigaClone

Re: Predictions 2022
« Reply #40 on: 08/11/2022 10:22 am »
Forgot to do a mid-year update, so doing it now. Comments in the quotes are different colors (green for correct prediction, orange for possible, blue for a comment or explanation, red for a miss).

My predictions for 2022.

I got part of the first prediction correct with Ariane 6, New Glenn, Gaganyaan 1, and Starliner crewed demo mission all seeing their first orbital launch delayed to 2023.

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At least one of the following gets its first orbital launch (or in the case of Starliner 'first crewed orbital launch') delayed to 2023 or later. Also, at least one of those in the list below, that is launched, has a less than successful mission (as defined by the launch provider.)
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Arianespace's Ariane 6 - ESA since June 2022 has been targeting first Ariane 6 launch in 2023

Blue Origin's New Glenn - Blue Origin admitted their first launch would not be before 2023

SpaceX's Starship - Possible (likely) launch in 2022

United Launch Alliance Vulcan-Centaur - Launch NET December 2022

SLS - Launch scheduled between August 29 and September 3 2022

First launch of the Gaganyaan 1 capsule preparing for future crewed flights from India. Delayed to 2023

Boeing Starliner crewed test - Launch NET January 2023

At least one company that has successfully launched an orbital launch vehicle by the end of 2021 is projected by the end of June to set a new company record in terms of successful launches. SpaceX's Falcon 9 beat its launch record set in 2021 of 31 launches in 29 weeks.  That same company would fail to meet those mid-year expectations. To early to tell about this one. Could be close.

At least one launch vehicle that has more than 20 consecutive successful launches will have a less than successful launch, possibly without a loss of payload. While not a launch failure, on Feb 3 SpaceX deployed 49 Starlink satellites. Due to a solar storm hitting Earth Feb 4, 38 if those satellites were brought down by atmospheric drag.Could otherwise still happen.

SpaceX will lose at least one Falcon 9 booster on landing. This was not intended to count boosters intentionally expended. While a booster loss could still happen, currently 60+ consecutive booster landings going back to 2021 since last landing failure.

A Falcon 9 booster will reach 15 landings. Three boosters are at 13 landings, two have reached 10 landings by mid August. Goal still possible to reach in 2022.

Blue Origin will sue someone. Could still happen.

More than one topic started after January first 2022 will be completely off topic within a month of being started. Gimme.

So far, I still could get 100% of my predictions correct, depending on certain interpretations.
« Last Edit: 08/13/2022 11:20 am by AmigaClone »

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Re: Predictions 2022
« Reply #41 on: 12/01/2022 04:44 pm »
Time to see how I did

Starship sent to Mars

Way off. What was I thinking?

SpaceX transports crew to the ISS at least 3 times

This happened

SLS continues to be delayed

Wrong. SLS flew.

NASA Perseverance rover finds evidence of organic molecules

This didn't happen.

Rocket lab reaches orbit at least once

This happened

Virgin Galactic continues to take tourists into space

Wow was this ever off

An exomoon is discovered

I don't know why I keep predicting this. It might be actually 10 years away

Earth-sized planet less than 40 light years away found with nitrogen in its atmosphere

Nope.

Another Earth-size planet found in the habitable zone of a star less than 20 light years away

There are some in the habitable zone less than 20 light years away, but none found this year.

Water vapor found in the atmosphere of Callisto

Wrong.

India continues its space program with no major setbacks

Yes, this happened

China continues work on space station with no major setbacks

Yes, this happened.

Well, I got 4/12 this year.
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Re: Predictions 2022
« Reply #42 on: 12/02/2022 08:12 am »
Selling yourself short for some of those:
NASA Perseverance rover finds evidence of organic molecules

This didn't happen.
Nov 2022
An exomoon is discovered

I don't know why I keep predicting this. It might be actually 10 years away
Jan 2022 (but awaiting observations with other telescopes starting next year to verify).
Earth-sized planet less than 40 light years away found with nitrogen in its atmosphere

Nope.
Maybe partial credit? JWST observation campaigns for many such exoplanets have completed, but nothing published yet.

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Re: Predictions 2022
« Reply #43 on: 12/02/2022 08:34 am »

An exomoon is discovered

I don't know why I keep predicting this. It might be actually 10 years away

Jan 2022 (but awaiting observations with other telescopes starting next year to verify).


Kipping is a great proponent for exomoons, but I remain sceptical and would agree with the "within 10 years" projection.

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Re: Predictions 2022
« Reply #44 on: 12/31/2022 05:07 pm »
Okay, here goes:

Starship first orbital launch happens in March. Goes successfully until the final descent/soft landing process which isn’t so soft due to some reentry damage. By end of year 4 orbital flights are made.

WRONG. I was WAY too optimistic on that. They were nowhere near ready.

Artemis-1 launches in May. Successful flight of SLS/Orion, with some issues noted that will need to be fixed before crew can fly on Artemis-2.

HALF RIGHT. Artemis I launched in 2022….but on November 16th.

The James Webb Space Telescope successfully goes through its deployment sequence and all the effort over the years pays off with a successful instrument calibration and initial science. Hints of a groundbreaking discovery begin to show up in unofficial chatter by the end of the year.

RIGHT. Looking forward to 20 years of groundbreaking discoveries.

SpaceX launches 36 F9/FH missions, including 4 Falcon Heavy missions.

HALF RIGHT. I was WAY too conservative on F9. And too optimistic on FH. They got 36 F9 flights….and a lot more after that! (Total for F9/FH: 61)

Psyche and JUICE missions launch successfully during their windows.

WRONG. Both pushed to 2023.

Vulcan and Ariane 6 first flights pushed into early 2023.

RIGHT. And A6 will go further than that.

Late in 2022 Blue Origin finally delivers flight engines to ULA.

RIGHT.

New Glenn unofficially pushed back to 2026.

HALF RIGHT. Latest talk is 2024.

New Shepard flies three times with crew and twice with cargo, but some issues with the system cause the cadence to not be any higher.

HALF RIGHT. 4 NS flights, 3 with crew. And launch failure with abort in September.

Virgin Galactic finally flies SS2 again late in the year. Tourist flights pushed to 2023.

HALF RIGHT. No SS2 flights. But tourist flights pushed back.

A few space tourists switch from orbital to suborbital flights due to debris concerns from the Russian ASAT test.

WRONG. No evidence of this.

The Russian ASAT test debris forces a great deal of replanning of ISS missions and activities as well as activities of other LEO spacecraft. ISS itself escapes unscathed but at least one other important spacecraft is damaged by this debris. By end of year an official push for an ASAT test ban treaty starts. However, the ISS future is clouded and unofficial plans to move up its replacement (in a different orbit, with more shielding) are quietly started.

HALF RIGHT. Soyuz MS-22 damage might be a result of MMOD. No test ban treaty push as far as I know. MMOD increasing concern for ISS program.

Despite this, science on ISS will be part of a major promising discovery, which will be followed up aboard ISS and other space stations in the future.

WRONG. Haven’t yet seen whispers of any major discovery, but I have no doubt it will happen in time.

Boeing Starliner OFT-2 pushed to early 2023 due to major valve redesign.

WRONG. OFT-2 flew successfully.

At least ten crewed space flights (suborbital and orbital) are made in 2022. However, at least one major mishap will occur that would lead to an Apollo 13 type situation or worse. This will impact multiple programs and future timelines, though it will not halt all activity as human spaceflight has more alternatives and more resilience than in 1986 or 2003.

HALF RIGHT. 10 crew flights for 2022 indeed. (2 Soyuz, 3 Dragon, 2 Shenzhou, 3 New Shepard). No Apollo 13 situation, but Soyuz MS-22 debris hit could lead to one if ISS has to be evacuated.

China will launch its pair of modules but not everything goes swimmingly for the station program in the following months as flight problems plus threats on the ground (war, economic crisis due to Evergrande) take their toll.

HALF RIGHT. Station modules were launched, no flight problems as far as I know. Zero COVID and mass protests did happen, but seems not to have affected Chinese program.

One world hotspot erupts into all out war and causes serious problems with spaceflight and the world economy. The US is affected less than others, but there are still problems resulting even here.

RIGHT. February 24, 2022. Ukraine.

By end of year COVID pandemic FINALLY starts to show signs of abating, though progress is uneven. NASA and other agencies are able to function normally, more or less.

HALF RIGHT. COVID problems in China, but NASA is back to normal.

India successfully lands Chandrayaan-3 on the Moon and its rover works. By end of year first Gaganyaan test flight launches.

WRONG. India’s program still suffered from COVID effects.

ExoMars launches successfully and heads off to the Red Planet.

WRONG. Another effect of the Ukraine War.

A major discovery is made by Perseverance that will rewrite textbooks. Curiosity also finds something remarkable that will be part of that discovery.

HALF RIGHT. They’ve made discoveries….not yet of the kind I was thinking about.

Astra will start operational flights by end of year after successful tests. So will Firefly.

HALF RIGHT. Firefly made it to orbit. But no operational flights. As far as Astra, the less said the better.

Relativity first flight fails but will reach orbit by end of year.

WRONG. They haven’t flown yet.

Rocketlab flies six times, COVID restrictions have some effect on flight cadence. But by end of year Wallops launch site finally cleared to fly and first Electron stage successfully recovered by helicopter.

HALF RIGHT. Rocketlab got 9 launches. Wallops is indeed cleared to fly. Electron stage recovered by boat after chopper had to drop it.

On a personal level, I’ll finally make a long awaited launch trip. And I’ll build at least one spaceflight related model.

RIGHT. But to Vandenberg, not the Cape. Last D4H West Coast launch. And built the Convair space shuttle concept by Atlantis. (Drawn up by Krafft Ehricke).
« Last Edit: 12/31/2022 05:09 pm by Bubbinski »
I'll even excitedly look forward to "flags and footprints" and suborbital missions. Just fly...somewhere.

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Re: Predictions 2022
« Reply #45 on: 12/31/2022 07:31 pm »
Artemis I
   Launches Q1 –
      Discover a few fixable issues for Artemis II
      Crew of Artemis II announced shortly after mission

        0/1 - Wrong

Starship / Heavy
   Orbital Test Flight Jan 2022 Before SLS
      Booster crashes on Mechazilla landing / catch attempt
         Damage to tower and Mechazilla delays next test to Q3

      Starship successful ocean landing / sink off the coast of Hawaii
         Has some heat shield issues that need fixing before flight two
        0/2 - Wrong

   Second test flight Q3
      Mechazilla successfully catches booster
      Starship second successful ocean landing / sinking
        0/3 - Wrong

   Third Test flight Q4
      Heavy Booster caught by Mechazilla
      Starship lands on pad in Boca Chica
        0/4 - Wrong

   First in orbit refueling test pushed off to NET 2023


Falcon-9
   All missions complete success
        1/5 - Right

James Webb
   Deploys correctly.  Fully operational by end of year.
        2/6 - Right

Hubble Space Telescope
   Fails for good by year end.
        2/7 Wrong - glad I was wrong about this

United Launch Alliance
   Gets BE-4 flight engines by end of March
        2/8  - Wrong - Blue is always slow

Vulcan launch success in Q4
   All other launches successful
        2/9 - Wrong - Blue is always slow

Blue Origin
   New Shepherd
      8 to 12 commercial flights
        2/10 Wrong - didn't see abort coming throwing wrench into operations

   New Glenn
      First stage with flight engines rolled to pad in Q4
         Fit checks, test electrical connections, etc.
        2/11 Wrong - Always slow

      Second Stage
         Expendable
            Not seen in 2022
        3/11 Right - Kind of

         Reusable Roadmap revealed
            Cargo version
            Tanker Version
            Crewed Version
               Crew size of ten to twelve
                  To support larger crews on Orbital Reef
               Winged landing – Shuttle landing strip
                  Small light wings compared to STS
        3/12 - Wrong - Blue is still slow and not transparent

   Orbital Reef
      Significant redesign from first graphics
        3/13 - Wrong - nothing so far

   Blue Moon
      Congress does not add funds to fully support second lander
         Blue continues at slower pace with National Team
        3/14  - Wrong - There is funding for second HLS team to get started

Virgin Galactic
   No longer Care
        4/15 - Right - I still don't care

Boeing
   CST-100 OFT-2 flight in early Q3 successful
   Crewed mission pushed to 2023
        4/16 wrong  - flight was ion Q2

Gateway
   Stays on schedule for 2024 launch 2025 arrival
        5/17 right - I think it still is NET Nov 2024

Will still miss the way Jim Bridenstine was the face of NASA
        6/18 Right - At least I miss the was Jim Bridenstine engaged with the public
                           Bill Nelson I will admit is better than I thought he would be.

I was too optimistic on schedules.  Time to get my wild guesses for 2023 in.

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Re: Predictions 2022
« Reply #46 on: 01/01/2023 01:49 pm »


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On January 1st, 2022, I tweeted a set of polls and wanted to see how well we in the spaceflight community could predict what would happen in the year forward. You did pretty decent this year! Want to participate next year? Here's the links to 2023's polls!

Twitter - https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1609557794650202112
Survey Monkey - https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/BT29GL5

And here were last year's polls so you can play along and see how you did! - https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/st...

 

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