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Zhongxing-1D - CZ-3B/G3 - Xichang - November 26, 2021 (16:40 UTC)
by
zubenelgenubi
on 25 Oct, 2021 07:12
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This launch schedule has proven mostly accurate thus far:
A user on the 9ifly posted this regarding to the launch schedule from Xichang for the remainder of the year. Knowing that launch opperations alternate between LC-2 and LC-3 we can determine several things. (The first two launches listed were Tianlian-1 05 and Yaogan-30 Group 10)
August 6th to August 8th: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ChinaSat-2E
August 23th to August 25nd: LC-3 - CZ-3B - ?
September 8th to September 9th: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ChinaSat-9B
September 23rd to September 25th: LC-3 - CZ-3B - ?
October 16th to October 18th: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ?
November 2nd to November 4th: LC-3 - CZ-3B - ?
November 26th to November 28th: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ?
December 13th to December 15th: LC-3 - CZ-2D - ?
December 29th to January 1st: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ?
Most recently:
Travel agency has posted nov 15-17, dec13-15, dec30-jan1 as next launch windows for Xichang. vehicles/payloads unknown
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4696175796555496
As of this post, the satellite or satellites aboard this hypothesized launch are unknown. Given the current circumstances regarding spaceflight coverage behind the digital Bamboo Curtain, the next information to work with may be launch NOTAM publication.
What are the sources for these?
China launch schedule
2021
?? - ?? - CZ-4B - XSLC, LC?
?? - Beidou-3 Buwang-1 - CZ-3C - XSLC, LC?
?? - ??, ?? - CZ-3B/G? (Y75) - XSLC, LC?
Changes on January 9th, 2020
Changes on September 10th, 2020
Changes on August 29, 2021
Hypothetical launch schedule:
China launch schedule
2021
November 26 Nov 26 to 28 canceled Nov 24 to 29 - Zhongxing-1D Zhongxing-6D(?) - CZ-3B/G3 - XSLC, LC2 - 16:40 ~16:40 ~16:15
December 13-15 - ?? - CZ-3B/G? - XSLC, LC3 LC3 LC2
December 31/Dec 30 to Jan 1, 2022 Dec 29 to Jan 1, 2022 - Zhongxing-6D - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC, LC2 LC2 LC3
?? - Beidou-3 Buwang-1(?) - CZ-3C - XSLC, LC?
?? - Jianyang-1- CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC, LC?
?? - TECHO-1 (Qingwang-1) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC, LC?
TBD July 5 (or 6) - Tianhui-3 (GEOSAR) - CZ-3B/G3 - XSLC, LC?
thread
TBD/December 30 December 29 to January 1, 2022 - Tianji Guganwang Gaogui (×2) - CZ-3B/G3 - XSLC, LC3 LC2
TBD? TBD September 20 23 - Yaogan-30 Group-11, Tianqi-? "Yan'an-1" - CZ-2C (Y49) - XSLC, LC3?
thread
?? - ??, ?? - CZ-3B/G? (Y75) - XSLC, LC?
?? - ?? - CZ-4B - XSLC, LC?
Changes on May 6
Changes on June 11
Changes on June 19
Changes on June 22
Changes on June 29
Changes on July 1
Changes on August 1
Changes on August 29
Changes on September 23
Changes on October 24
Changes on October 25
Changes on November 4
Changes on November 9
Changes on November 22
Changes on November 26
zubenelgenubi
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#1
by
Liss
on 09 Nov, 2021 06:29
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As per the NOTAM:
P4126/21 NOTAMN
Q) RJJJ/QXXXX/IV/NBO/E/000/999/2229N12642E029
A) RJJJ B) 2111241600 C) 2111291900
D) 1600/1900
E) DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 24-29, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 24, 2021 1600 - 29, 2021 1900 (UTC)
DLY 1600-1900 (UTC).
AREA:
N222700E1271222-N224507E1261720-N222949E1261131-N221142E1270625,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY.
F) SFC G) UNL
CREATED: 08 Nov 2021 08:53:00
SOURCE: RJAAYNYX
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#2
by
Josh_from_Canada
on 09 Nov, 2021 06:49
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This looks to be a GTO launch on a CZ-3B from XSLC Pad 2. This is quite unusual to see NOTAMs published this far before the launch.
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#3
by
input~2
on 09 Nov, 2021 09:45
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As per the NOTAM:
Another format for this NOTAM related to CZ-3B second stage debris
P4126/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 24-29, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 24, 2021 1600 - 29, 2021 1900 (UTC)
DLY 1600-1900 (UTC).
AREA:
N222700E1271222-N224507E1261720-N222949E1261131-N221142E1270625,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
1600/1900,
24 NOV 16:00 2021 UNTIL 29 NOV 19:00 2021. CREATED: 08 NOV 08:53 2021
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#4
by
Satori
on 09 Nov, 2021 15:10
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This can be the launch that was originally schedule foe November 13/15.
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#5
by
mikezang
on 21 Nov, 2021 12:17
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It is said there will be a CZ-3B with ChinaSat-6D launch on Nov 24, 2021 16:15 UTC from Xichang.
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#6
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 22 Nov, 2021 06:33
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More air-space closure notices have shown up with a November 26, ~16:40 UTC launch time.
A2976/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2815N10202E006
A) ZPKM B) 2111261630 C) 2111261705
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED CENTERED AT N2815E10202
WITH RADIUS OF 10KM. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE
TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
A2977/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2718N10808E026
A) ZPKM B) 2111261632 C) 2111261709
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N272159E1083650-N273125E1074313-N271528E1073946-N270603E1083315.
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY
RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
A2978/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZXXX/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2603N11412E016
A) ZGZU ZSHA B) 2111261634 C) 2111261710
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N260808E1142921-N261444E1140013-N255857E1135553-N255223E1142456,
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY
RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
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#7
by
input~2
on 22 Nov, 2021 21:33
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NOTAM for 2nd stage debris:
P4314/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 26, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 26, 2021 1645-1745(UTC)
AREA:
N222700E1271220-N224509E1261719-N222748E1261131-N221141E1270626,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
26 NOV 16:45 2021 UNTIL 26 NOV 17:45 2021. CREATED: 22 NOV 10:52 2021
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#8
by
input~2
on 22 Nov, 2021 21:35
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Earlier on Chinasat-6D launch was expected by end December 2021, so let's see..
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#9
by
mikezang
on 26 Nov, 2021 06:24
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NOTAM for 2nd stage debris:
P4314/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 26, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 26, 2021 1645-1745(UTC)
AREA:
N222700E1271220-N224509E1261719-N222748E1261131-N221141E1270626,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
26 NOV 16:45 2021 UNTIL 26 NOV 17:45 2021. CREATED: 22 NOV 10:52 2021
Is this still available?
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#10
by
Liss
on 26 Nov, 2021 06:40
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NOTAM for 2nd stage debris:
P4314/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 26, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 26, 2021 1645-1745(UTC)
AREA:
N222700E1271220-N224509E1261719-N222748E1261131-N221141E1270626,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
26 NOV 16:45 2021 UNTIL 26 NOV 17:45 2021. CREATED: 22 NOV 10:52 2021
Is this still available?
It's available as of now.
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#11
by
mikezang
on 26 Nov, 2021 07:35
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NOTAM for 2nd stage debris:
P4314/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 26, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 26, 2021 1645-1745(UTC)
AREA:
N222700E1271220-N224509E1261719-N222748E1261131-N221141E1270626,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
26 NOV 16:45 2021 UNTIL 26 NOV 17:45 2021. CREATED: 22 NOV 10:52 2021
Is this still available?
It's available as of now.
I got news it is not CZ-3B and ChinaSat-6D, it might be CZ-3B without ChinaSat-6D.
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#12
by
mikezang
on 26 Nov, 2021 13:27
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NOTAM for 2nd stage debris:
P4314/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 26, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 26, 2021 1645-1745(UTC)
AREA:
N222700E1271220-N224509E1261719-N222748E1261131-N221141E1270626,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
26 NOV 16:45 2021 UNTIL 26 NOV 17:45 2021. CREATED: 22 NOV 10:52 2021
Is this still available?
It's available as of now.
I got news it is not CZ-3B and ChinaSat-6D, it might be CZ-3B without ChinaSat-6D.
The newest is that might still be ChianSat-6D:(
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#13
by
Satori
on 26 Nov, 2021 15:41
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Waiting any news from Xichang...
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#14
by
Conexion Espacial
on 26 Nov, 2021 15:48
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#15
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 26 Nov, 2021 15:55
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Liftoff confirmed per local reports of ground shaking.
And I saw insiders on Weibo are hinting at the payload being something else than ChinaSat 6D, “of a certain model not seen in Xichang for the past several years”. IMHO maybe it’s the ChinaSat-1x series, identified as military mobile communication satellites and last launched in 2015? That seems to be the closest thing that I could found linked to the CZ-3 series, have enough satellites launched to be called a “series” and hasn’t had a new one launched in the past several years.
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#16
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 26 Nov, 2021 16:06
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#17
by
mikezang
on 26 Nov, 2021 16:07
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IT is ChinaSat-1D.
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#18
by
Conexion Espacial
on 26 Nov, 2021 16:18
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#19
by
Conexion Espacial
on 26 Nov, 2021 16:32
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Successful mission, the satellite was ChinaSat 1D (Zhongxing 1D)