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SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 : 2025
« on: 08/10/2021 12:32 pm »
Discussion thread for the Intuitive Machines Nova-C lunar lander mission IM-3.

NSF Threads for Nova-C : IM-3 Discussion
Intuitive Machines Discussion / CLPS Discussion

2025 on Falcon 9 from LC-39A



twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1425060971945598986

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Lunar cargo startup Intuitive Machines announces its third mission to the surface of the moon, IM-3, will launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, planned to launch fourth quarter 2024:

https://www.intuitivemachines.com/post/three-peat-intuitive-machines-selects-spacex-falcon-9-rocket-for-third-moon-mission

https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1425065060452507649

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Correction: First quarter 2024

IM press release:

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Three-peat: Intuitive Machines Selects SpaceX Falcon 9 Rocket for Third Moon Mission
via Intuitive Machines


Intuitive Machines continues its mission to build a cislunar economy with its third mission (IM-3) to the Moon that will launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9 Rocket.

“We’re offering our customers more than lunar surface payload delivery and extreme surface mobility,” said Steve Altemus, the president and CEO of Intuitive Machines. “Our turnkey solution for delivering, communicating, and commanding customer payloads on and around the Moon is revolutionary. Now, we’re proving we can do it at an annual cadence.”

The IM-3 mission includes a Nova-C class lander to land 130kg of payloads on the lunar surface. It also has excess capacity on the launch vehicle that accommodates 1000kg of payloads on a rideshare dispenser ring that deploys into a lunar transfer orbit. Intuitive Machines’ “rideshare” option puts customers in a high-energy orbit to efficiently proceed to lunar capture, redirect to points elsewhere in high Earth orbit, or depart for destinations in the solar system.

By expanding on Intuitive Machines’ capability developed through NASA’s Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) initiative, we can offer an annual launch cadence starting with IM-1 and extending beyond our first three missions. The reliable cadence allows industry partners and customers the lead times needed to secure funding, develop advanced technologies, and become part of building the cislunar economy.
« Last Edit: 03/04/2024 03:26 pm by gongora »

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #1 on: 08/10/2021 06:04 pm »
For this mission does the F9 second stage perform the TLI and LOI burns? I was not aware it had that capability.

The Intuitive Machines mission announcement gives no details about those burns. I read through the company website and don’t find any information about that, only references to their rocket engines that enable the lunar landing.

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #2 on: 08/10/2021 06:08 pm »
For this mission does the F9 second stage perform the TLI and LOI burns? I was not aware it had that capability.

TLI yes, LOI no. Stage lifetime is much shorter than a 3-day-ish cruise it would take before LOI.

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For this mission does the F9 second stage perform the TLI and LOI burns? I was not aware it had that capability.

The Intuitive Machines mission announcement gives no details about those burns. I read through the company website and don’t find any information about that, only references to their rocket engines that enable the lunar landing.
F9 goes to Lunar Transfer Orbit, not sure if this is TLI.

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #4 on: 08/11/2021 12:44 am »
TLI yes, LOI no. Stage lifetime is much shorter than a 3-day-ish cruise it would take before LOI.
Okay thanks. I couldn’t imagine the F9 2nd stage was capable of LOI but did not even realize it could do TLI.

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #5 on: 08/11/2021 02:34 am »
TLI yes, LOI no. Stage lifetime is much shorter than a 3-day-ish cruise it would take before LOI.
Okay thanks. I couldn’t imagine the F9 2nd stage was capable of LOI but did not even realize it could do TLI.
Falcon 9 can carry payloads on Earth escape trajectories like DSCOVER to L1 and Psyche (someday), so it has to be capable of even greater mass thru TLI, which is still a negative C3, less than Earth escape velocity. (Some people on this forum know the value off the top of their heads, but I think its C3~-2km^2/sec^2)
You could check the NASA LSP pages for admittedly conservative numbers.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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FWIW, ELVPerf says Falcon 9 can launch at least 3.3 tons to C3 = 0 (a bit more than needed for TLI) with drone ship recovery. That meshes very nicely with Nova-C's ~1900 kg launch mass and the extra 1000 kg of capacity Intuitive Machines says it will be offering up for rideshare payloads on IM-3.

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #7 on: 08/11/2021 10:35 am »
So is it confirmed it's going to do TLI instead of something like GTO and then the payload doing its own thing to get to the Moon (kinda like Beresheet)?

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #8 on: 08/11/2021 10:45 am »
I've gone through previous official IM releases about these missions on Falcon 9 (IM-1 to IM-3) and formally there is no confirmation that this is going to be a TLI. I have only found that in one of the press releases they state that the transit from the Earth to the Moon is going to take 6 days. Source, IM press release from April 2020: https://7c27f7d6-4a0b-4269-aee9-80e85c3db26a.usrfiles.com/ugd/7c27f7_bc896cfc90ca4ae9a0643bfbf5ed214a.pdf
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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #9 on: 08/11/2021 01:30 pm »
From here: https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/spacecraft/display.action?id=IM-1-NOVA

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After launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9 from Cape Canaveral, scheduled for early 2022, the Nova-C spacecraft will go into a 185 x 60,000 km Earth orbit, followed by a translunar injection and a maneuver to put it in a 100 km lunar orbit.

However this doesn't imply the subsequent Nova-C missions will follow the same mission profile.

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #10 on: 08/13/2021 02:56 am »
So if I'm not mistaken, this is not a CLPS mission, it's a completely private commercial lunar mission?

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #11 on: 08/13/2021 03:07 am »
So is it confirmed it's going to do TLI instead of something like GTO and then the payload doing its own thing to get to the Moon (kinda like Beresheet)?

It says the rideshare payloads are deployed into a lunar transfer orbit, so either the second stage is also in that orbit or the lander is carrying the rideshare adapter.

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #12 on: 08/13/2021 06:03 am »
So if I'm not mistaken, this is not a CLPS mission, it's a completely private commercial lunar mission?
Who else would order this mission? And they said the following:
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By expanding on Intuitive Machines’ capability developed through NASA’s Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) initiative, we can offer an annual launch cadence starting with IM-1 and extending beyond our first three missions.
Beyond 3 missions. NASA didn't say anything, but I assume that this is a continuation of the first two missions.
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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #13 on: 08/13/2021 10:20 am »
So if I'm not mistaken, this is not a CLPS mission, it's a completely private commercial lunar mission?
Yes it is.

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #14 on: 08/15/2021 04:41 am »
NSF article seems to confirm this is not a CLPS mission: Intuitive Machines adds third mission following first lunar landings in 2022

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Overall, IM is one of four Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) providers preparing for robotic Moon landings as part of NASA’s Artemis program — though IM-3 is not associated with CLPS.

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #15 on: 11/18/2021 12:07 am »
NSF article seems to confirm this is not a CLPS mission: Intuitive Machines adds third mission following first lunar landings in 2022

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Overall, IM is one of four Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) providers preparing for robotic Moon landings as part of NASA’s Artemis program — though IM-3 is not associated with CLPS.

IM-3 has just been awarded a CLPS mission!

The Reiner Gamma mission has been awarded to Intuitive Machines for launch on the IM-3 Nova-C lander in 2024:

NASA Selects Intuitive Machines for New Lunar Science Delivery [dated Nov. 17]

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Concept image of Intuitive Machines Noca-C lander for the IM-3 mission taking four NASA investigations to Reiner Gamma.
Credits: Intuitive Machines

NASA has awarded Intuitive Machines of Houston a contract to deliver research, including science investigations and a technology demonstration, to the Moon in 2024. The commercial delivery is part of NASA’s Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) initiative and the Artemis program.

The investigations aboard Intuitive Machines’ Nova-C lander are destined for Reiner Gamma, one of the most distinctive and enigmatic natural features on the Moon. Known as a lunar swirl, Reiner Gamma is on the western edge of the Moon, as seen from Earth, and is one of the most visible lunar swirls. Scientists continue to learn what lunar swirls are, how they form, and their relationship to the Moon’s magnetic field.

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Intuitive Machines will receive $77.5 million for the contract and is responsible for end-to-end delivery services, including payload integration, delivery from Earth to the surface of the Moon, and payload operations. This is Intuitive Machines’ third task order award, the first of which is a delivery to Oceanus Procellarum on the Moon during the first quarter of 2022. This award is the seventh surface delivery task award issued to a CLPS partner.

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The four investigations Intuitive Machines will deliver to Reiner Gamma are collectively expected to be about 203 pounds (92 kg) in mass and include:

• Lunar Vertex is among NASA’s Payloads and Research Investigations on the Surface of the Moon (PRISM) selections. It is a combination of stationary lander payloads and a rover that will make detailed measurements of the magnetic field, plasma environment and regolith properties. The lander and rover data will augment observations collected in orbit. Combined, the observations will help show how these mysterious lunar swirls form and evolve – and how they connect to local magnetic fields in the same regions. Lunar Vertex is funded through the agency’s Science Mission Directorate and is led by the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Maryland.

• Cooperative Autonomous Distributed Robotic Exploration (CADRE) consists of mobile robots programmed to work as an autonomous team to explore the lunar surface, collect data, and map different areas of the Moon in 3D. CADRE uses its inertial measurement unit, stereo cameras, and a Sun sensor to track the position of each robot as they explore the lunar surface. CADRE is funded by NASA’s Game Changing Development program under the agency’s Space Technology Mission Directorate and is led by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.

• MoonLIGHT retroreflector is a laser retroreflector, which reflects laser beams sent from Earth directly back from the Moon to receivers on Earth. This allows very precise measurement of the distances between the reflector and the ground station. This technique can be used to investigate relativity, the gravitational dynamics of the Earth-Moon system and the deep lunar interior. MoonLIGHT is managed by the European Space Agency (ESA).

• Lunar Space Environment Monitor (LUSEM) uses a pair of apertures to detect high-energy particles on the lunar surface. LUSEM will monitor variations in the near-surface space environment when the Moon is inside and outside Earth’s magnetotail – the trailing end of the magnetic fields surrounding our planet, which can serve as a buffer for incoming radiation. LUSEM is managed by the Korea Astronomy and Space Science Institute (KASI) in South Korea.

Also:

NASA Selects Intuitive Machines to Deliver 4 Lunar Payloads in 2024

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In addition to CLPS payloads, IM-3 will continue to build intuitive Machines’ lunar data relay services program, Khonstellation. The second node in Khonstellation will deliver the company’s data services satellite (Khon2) to a L2 orbit, adding to the first node (Khon1) delivered to a frozen lunar orbit during Intuitive Machines’ IM-2 south pole mission in fourth quarter of 2022.

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #16 on: 11/18/2021 12:57 pm »
[All three IM missions] launching from pad 39-A.

https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1461095940920594432?s=20
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All three of our booked missions are launching on a SpaceX Falcon 9 Rocket from NASA Kennedy.
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Currently aiming to land on the Moon in Spring 2024 so probably Q2 launch.

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The rover being tested is similar in size and appearance to the flight models of the CADRE rovers, which are still being built. Slated to arrive at the Moon in spring 2024 as part of NASA's CLPS (Commercial Lunar Payload Services) initiative, CADRE is designed to demonstrate that multiple robots can cooperate and explore together autonomously – without direct input from human mission controllers.

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The technology demonstration will launch as a payload on the third lunar lander mission by Intuitive Machines, called IM-3, under the CLPS initiative, which is managed by NASA's Science Mission Directorate, also in Washington.

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/pia25665-cadre-rover-testing-in-jpls-mars-yard

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 lunar landing: Q1 2024
« Reply #18 on: 08/07/2023 08:12 pm »
I kinda doubt IM is going to launch their first three missions before mid-2024

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Re: SpaceX F9: Intuitive Machines IM-3 : Early 2025
« Reply #19 on: 03/04/2024 01:42 pm »
Delayed to 2025 as expected.

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The company has two more lunar lander missions in development, with IM-2 tentatively planned for the fourth quarter and IM-3 in early 2025.

https://spacenews.com/intuitive-machines-ready-for-launch-of-its-first-lunar-lander/

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