Is there anything preventing a foreign ship from entering those waters?
Starship isn’t a nationally-owned vehicle, but is a private one. Do the rules re salvage apply as with ships it it falls in the sea? IIRC SpaceX claimed ownership of a fairing which washed ashore as debris in the English Channel a few years ago (pre recovery efforts).
Article VIStates Parties to the Treaty shall bear international responsibility for national activities in outer space, including the Moon and other celestial bodies, whether such activities are carried on by governmental agencies or by non-governmental entities, and for assuring that national activities are carried out in conformity with the provisions set forth in the present Treaty. The activities of non-governmental entities in outer space, including the Moon and other celestial bodies, shall require authorization and continuing supervision by the appropriate State Party to the Treaty. ... (text about international missions trimmed) ...Article VIIIA State Party to the Treaty on whose registry an object launched into outer space is carried shall retain jurisdiction and control over such object, and over any personnel thereof, while in outer space or on a celestial body. Ownership of objects launched into outer space, including objects landed or constructed on a celestial body, and of their component parts, is not affected by their presence in outer space or on a celestial body or by their return to the Earth. Such objects or component parts found beyond the limits of the State Party to the Treaty on whose registry they are carried shall be returned to that State Party, which shall, upon request, furnish identifying data prior to their return.
Quote from: Bob Shaw on 04/13/2023 02:29 pmStarship isn’t a nationally-owned vehicle, but is a private one. Do the rules re salvage apply as with ships it it falls in the sea? IIRC SpaceX claimed ownership of a fairing which washed ashore as debris in the English Channel a few years ago (pre recovery efforts).Let's hope that if the Starship upper stage falls into the sea after completing one orbit and re-entering the earth's atmosphere the Chinese don't get their hands on the Starship stage and reverse-engineer it to create a huge Starship-like reusable spacecraft to be potentially used for military purposes.
Could this be poopy news?$SPCE news FAA shoots down launch of SpaceX Starship, IBD reportshttps://www.investors.com/news/technology/spacex-faa-blows-out-candle-on-company-starship/
Quote from: RcTeller on 04/13/2023 05:52 pmCould this be poopy news?$SPCE news FAA shoots down launch of SpaceX Starship, IBD reportshttps://www.investors.com/news/technology/spacex-faa-blows-out-candle-on-company-starship/The article contains some utter nonsense, confusing PEA which concluded last year (in May, indeed) with launch license. The author clearly has no clue what he's talking about.
(road closure notice from Cameron County)https://www.cameroncountytx.gov/order-closing-boca-chica-beach-and-state-hwy-4-april-17-2023-with-alternative-date-of-april-18-2023-or-april-19-2023-2/
Quote from: StevenOBrien on 04/12/2023 05:38 pm"For the first flight test, the team will not attempt a vertical landing of Starship"https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-testAlso the graphic on this page shows the booster basically doing the boost back burn in the wrong direction.
"For the first flight test, the team will not attempt a vertical landing of Starship"https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-test
Quote from: uhuznaa on 04/12/2023 06:50 pmQuote from: StevenOBrien on 04/12/2023 05:38 pm"For the first flight test, the team will not attempt a vertical landing of Starship"https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-testAlso the graphic on this page shows the booster basically doing the boost back burn in the wrong direction. I might be wrong, but just curious. How is the boost back burn illustrated in the wrong direction? Isn't the burn pointing in the correct direction to remove horizontal velocity? https://sxcontent9668.azureedge.us/cms-assets/assets/SPACEX_STARSHIP_INFOGRAPHIC_041223_web_096b650bff.png
Quote from: StevenOBrien on 04/13/2023 07:21 pm(road closure notice from Cameron County)https://www.cameroncountytx.gov/order-closing-boca-chica-beach-and-state-hwy-4-april-17-2023-with-alternative-date-of-april-18-2023-or-april-19-2023-2/The notice quotes "C.S.T." times, not "Central" or "CT". It's one thing to hear average yahoos make this mistake, but official sources? Sad trombone (See my sig below. And get off my lawn!)
Quote from: peregrinus on 04/13/2023 08:30 pm[...]. How is the boost back burn illustrated in the wrong direction? Isn't the burn pointing in the correct direction to remove horizontal velocity? https://sxcontent9668.azureedge.us/cms-assets/assets/SPACEX_STARSHIP_INFOGRAPHIC_041223_web_096b650bff.pngThe image has been corrected. The original had the flamey end on the wrong side of the booster.
[...]. How is the boost back burn illustrated in the wrong direction? Isn't the burn pointing in the correct direction to remove horizontal velocity? https://sxcontent9668.azureedge.us/cms-assets/assets/SPACEX_STARSHIP_INFOGRAPHIC_041223_web_096b650bff.png