Quote from: StuffOfInterest on 04/12/2023 05:16 pmIf S24 is going to be doing a bellyflop all the way to the water, has anyone estimated what the terminal velocity will be?Approximately 75 - 90 m/s, or about 270 - 324 kph / 167 - 200 mph, depending on its angle of attack and the position of the flaperons.
If S24 is going to be doing a bellyflop all the way to the water, has anyone estimated what the terminal velocity will be?
Quote from: TomH on 04/12/2023 07:38 pmIf they burn off all the residuals, they can crash with less toxic chemicals.What toxic chemicals?
If they burn off all the residuals, they can crash with less toxic chemicals.
Quote from: whitelancer64 on 04/12/2023 05:34 pmHistorically, launch licenses for new LVs are only granted a few days before the first launch attempt.Nit: Expect this is a permit (not license). In any case, FAA has historically lagged and not unusual to see nothing published of until after the event. Not holding my breath we will see such from the FAA before this attempt.
Historically, launch licenses for new LVs are only granted a few days before the first launch attempt.
Quote from: jpo234 on 04/12/2023 08:06 pmQuote from: TomH on 04/12/2023 07:38 pmIf they burn off all the residuals, they can crash with less toxic chemicals.What toxic chemicals?Last time I was there, Texas was already awash in natural gas and oxygen. I doubt even the critters would notice.
Quote from: jpo234 on 04/12/2023 08:06 pmQuote from: TomH on 04/12/2023 07:38 pmIf they burn off all the residuals, they can crash with less toxic chemicals.What toxic chemicals?some hydraulic fluids and probably some Tesla's worth of batteries on board.
Quote from: whitelancer64 on 04/12/2023 05:34 pmHistorically, launch licenses for new LVs are only granted a few days before the first launch attempt.You have the implied causality backwards. The more accurate relationship is: Most new LVs are launched within a few days of being granted a launch license.
Quote from: whitelancer64 on 04/12/2023 05:31 pmQuote from: StuffOfInterest on 04/12/2023 05:16 pmIf S24 is going to be doing a bellyflop all the way to the water, has anyone estimated what the terminal velocity will be?Approximately 75 - 90 m/s, or about 270 - 324 kph / 167 - 200 mph, depending on its angle of attack and the position of the flaperons.It occurs to me that the first crewed flights of Starship could happen Yuri-style where they just eject after Starship gets subsonic…LOL
What's the difference between a permit and a license, and how could SpaceX launch legally without either?
It is both. You can't launch without the FAA approval, but you can't get the FAA approval without being ready for launch.
If the launch is April 17th I will likely miss it. Very unfortunate timing for me - if it launches Monday Z-up, I will running Y-east to the center of Boston for 26.2 miles from mid morning through early pm.
Shoutout to this employee that just single handedly moved part of the QD structure away from Starship.📸: NSF Live
Quote from: uhuznaa on 04/12/2023 08:42 pmQuote from: jpo234 on 04/12/2023 08:06 pmQuote from: TomH on 04/12/2023 07:38 pmIf they burn off all the residuals, they can crash with less toxic chemicals.What toxic chemicals?some hydraulic fluids and probably some Tesla's worth of batteries on board.But these wouldn't burn off in a landing burn...
Quote from: Elvis in Space on 04/12/2023 08:33 pmQuote from: jpo234 on 04/12/2023 08:06 pmQuote from: TomH on 04/12/2023 07:38 pmIf they burn off all the residuals, they can crash with less toxic chemicals.What toxic chemicals?Last time I was there, Texas was already awash in natural gas and oxygen. I doubt even the critters would notice.SS is supposed to land on the margin of a marine sanctuary in Hawaii. Keep up!
Quote from: TomH on 04/13/2023 01:49 amQuote from: Elvis in Space on 04/12/2023 08:33 pmQuote from: jpo234 on 04/12/2023 08:06 pmQuote from: TomH on 04/12/2023 07:38 pmIf they burn off all the residuals, they can crash with less toxic chemicals.What toxic chemicals?Last time I was there, Texas was already awash in natural gas and oxygen. I doubt even the critters would notice.SS is supposed to land on the margin of a marine sanctuary in Hawaii. Keep up!More specifically into one of the weapons and missile impact test ranges controlled by the Kauai Test Facility (KTF) (Pacific Missile Range Facility (PMRF)) centrally based from their installation at Barking Sands, Kauai, Hawaii.
Quote from: geza on 04/12/2023 02:02 pm...But, why? Flip & landing was already demonstrated by SN15. What was wrong about leaving this maneuver in the flight plan? A simple explanation maybe that they consider Starship surviving to make a landing attempt to be a low probability and not worth the effort to include it in the plan.
...But, why? Flip & landing was already demonstrated by SN15. What was wrong about leaving this maneuver in the flight plan?
Quote from: russianhalo117 on 04/13/2023 02:03 amQuote from: TomH on 04/13/2023 01:49 amQuote from: Elvis in Space on 04/12/2023 08:33 pmQuote from: jpo234 on 04/12/2023 08:06 pmQuote from: TomH on 04/12/2023 07:38 pmIf they burn off all the residuals, they can crash with less toxic chemicals.What toxic chemicals?Last time I was there, Texas was already awash in natural gas and oxygen. I doubt even the critters would notice.SS is supposed to land on the margin of a marine sanctuary in Hawaii. Keep up!More specifically into one of the weapons and missile impact test ranges controlled by the Kauai Test Facility (KTF) (Pacific Missile Range Facility (PMRF)) centrally based from their installation at Barking Sands, Kauai, Hawaii.Is there anything preventing a foreign ship from entering those waters?I'm not a maritime law expert by any stretch of the imagination but I thought the exclusion zone was only about 20 miles or so (aka the horizon)
