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Re: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #22 on: 01/05/2007 06:30 pm »
Below is the scheme of all (practically) launch sites of Baikonur cosmodrome (alas, in Russian)...

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Re: RE: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #24 on: 05/01/2009 02:25 pm »
I supose that the R-16 pad of the Nedellin disaster is at 45:58:31.35 N - 63:39:36.81 E (Area 41).

Yes, the google image of the concrete apron is still very clear.

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Re: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #25 on: 05/01/2009 02:28 pm »
The two Soyuz pad views confirms the main clue i've used over the years to tell which ground-level views showed which pads... The launch apron for 1 is square, the launch apron for 31 has the two forward corners beveled to a double 45-deg line (you can even see this in the shadow). Not seen -- the piller structure at the apron's outer extent is markedly different (less robust for 31).

 

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Re: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #26 on: 07/08/2009 05:44 pm »
Site 81 for Proton

Why is 23 on a different aligment to the others? Site 200, platforms 39 and 40 and 24 at site 81?

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Re: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #27 on: 08/19/2009 03:31 pm »
There is a yet unidentified launch pad not too far away from the soyuz launch site 31/6:

http://maps.google.de/maps?q=46.003791,+63.584542&t=h&vps=1&jsv=171b&sll=51.151786,10.415039&sspn=7.307413,14.941406&ie=UTF8&hl=de&geocode=FU_2vQIdHjnKAw&split=0

It looks like an old R-16 or even R-9 pad. In Aniks map the area is named "PL-32U". What is it???

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Re: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #28 on: 08/19/2009 05:10 pm »
What is it?

It is ground-based training military launch pad 32У for Р-16У (8К64У) rocket.

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Re: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #29 on: 09/03/2009 07:46 pm »
Where would the launchpad for the N1 attempts be?
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Re: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #30 on: 09/03/2009 09:35 pm »
Where would the launchpad for the N1 attempts be?

They were on the pads at 110-37 and 110-38 (labeled "Energia" by anik). 

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Re: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #31 on: 09/03/2009 09:46 pm »
Where would the launchpad for the N1 attempts be?

They were on the pads at 110-37 and 110-38 (labeled "Energia" by anik). 
Thanks.  I'm now spending around on google maps exploring the area.  One area I've always wanted to visit one day.
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Re: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #32 on: 10/18/2009 08:10 am »
I have made file for Google Earth with location of launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome.

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Re: RE: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #33 on: 10/18/2009 12:25 pm »
Why so many pads - especially for the Protons?

For Proton site 81 each platform was designed for 32 launches before overhaul, site 200 for 66 each. 81 was taken out of service for the overhaul once 200 was complete. These days they just keep extending their life rather than close it down completely.

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Re: RE: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #34 on: 11/09/2009 07:00 pm »
Why so many pads - especially for the Protons?

For Proton site 81 each platform was designed for 32 launches before overhaul, site 200 for 66 each. 81 was taken out of service for the overhaul once 200 was complete. These days they just keep extending their life rather than close it down completely.

Could site 200 support manned launches?

Even with site 81 coming to a close in 1978; the 1st TKS Kosmos 929, and the dual VA recovery missions flew from site 81; also from June to August 1981 preparations at site 81 with cosmonauts for TKS missions.

http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/numbers/213/38.shtml
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/numbers/215/53.shtml
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/numbers/236/41.shtml
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/tks.html

Also odd that one of the Venera 11 & 12 did not fly from site 200.
« Last Edit: 11/09/2009 07:01 pm by Stan Black »

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Re: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #35 on: 10/26/2018 03:38 pm »
I was gonna apologize for the necrothreading, but on second thoughts I think this is a well-deserved bump for a great thread.

Anyway, my (basic) question: what is the "logic" behind the launch zones/pads designations? It seems there is some kind of sequential ordering on them, especially since the Gagarin Pad is Complex 1. But why is the sequence so broken and there are just a few launch zones designations under 100, just cancelled/built-over complexes? What does the number after the dash (individual pad) designate?
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Re: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #36 on: 10/26/2018 05:20 pm »
I was gonna apologize for the necrothreading, but on second thoughts I think this is a well-deserved bump for a great thread.

Anyway, my (basic) question: what is the "logic" behind the launch zones/pads designations? It seems there is some kind of sequential ordering on them, especially since the Gagarin Pad is Complex 1. But why is the sequence so broken and there are just a few launch zones designations under 100, just cancelled/built-over complexes? What does the number after the dash (individual pad) designate?
Well the site number applies to everything on Baikonur and secondly the first number applies only to base its on whereas the second number is the type of pad globally. So site 1 is the first site on Baikonur but is fifth pad to be activated for operational launches of R7 launcher type. Proton includes on UR system family launchers silos and pads and is thus different than others.That is the general explanation.
http://russianspaceweb.com/baikonur_facilities.html
« Last Edit: 10/26/2018 05:27 pm by russianhalo117 »

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Re: Launch pads of Baikonur cosmodrome
« Reply #37 on: 10/26/2018 05:45 pm »
I was gonna apologize for the necrothreading, but on second thoughts I think this is a well-deserved bump for a great thread.

Anyway, my (basic) question: what is the "logic" behind the launch zones/pads designations? It seems there is some kind of sequential ordering on them, especially since the Gagarin Pad is Complex 1. But why is the sequence so broken and there are just a few launch zones designations under 100, just cancelled/built-over complexes? What does the number after the dash (individual pad) designate?
Well the site number applies to everything on Baikonur and secondly the first number applies only to base its on whereas the second number is the type of pad globally. So site 1 is the first site on Baikonur but is fifth pad to be activated for operational launches of R7 launcher type. Proton includes on UR system family launchers silos and pads and is thus different than others.That is the general explanation.
http://russianspaceweb.com/baikonur_facilities.html

I see, thanks for the link, I'd never come across such a list. There is an astounding amount of "?" in it for a well-informed site as RussianSpaceWeb, but on the other hand seeing what Site 115 was designated as, for instance (storage area, shooting range and *pig farm*), I can imagine there are many such "minor" sites that were never too well documented and quickly abandoned.

It appears from what I can gather that the launch pad numbering is sequential irrespective of the launcher that uses it, and so there will never be a facility called NN/X if there is a previous one called MM/X, is that right? From that list it seems 1/5 was renamed after refurbishment (and 3 other launch pads were built), but in its origins it was indeed 1/1.
-DaviD-

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