Here is a comparison of the S1 telemetry from Starlink L18 and L19.1. The result of the boost phase is identical in terms of velocity and altitude gained.2. The L19 entry burn acceleration reduces by about a quarter from 399-401s, and continues at that level until MECO2 at 405s.3. This difference may well correspond with a single early engine shutdown.
I tried to find the graph from L5 last March (the last engine out mission), but I didn't see it in a cursory scroll through that thread. Any idea where that one might be?
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1361544540411355137QuoteYeah. Active fairing half recovered though.Sounds like good fairing splash down and Elon acknowledges landing failure, a lot better than the weeks it took for B1056 and 11 months (and counting) for B1048.
Yeah. Active fairing half recovered though.
Farwell B1059. Starlink L19 is to be the final mission for this booster and OCISLY will return with an empty deck.Mission details: nasaspaceflight.com/2021/02/starli…
Falcon 9 B1059 streaks off into the night on what would turn out to be its last mission.She had a good run, having launched 6 missions - 2 Dragons, SAOCOM, NROL-108, and a total of 118 Starlinks. Farewell, good booster. nasaspaceflight.com/2021/02/starli…
Have you ever wondered if you can get a streak shot with your phone? Well, you can!I used Slow Shutter Cam for iOS, sort of as an afterthought, and now I know it can work. Next time, I'll tell my phone not to lock after 2 minutes, so it doesn't cut the streak off suddenly.
Quote from: AndrewRG10 on 02/16/2021 04:21 amQuoteYeah. Active fairing half recovered though.Sounds like good fairing splash down and Elon acknowledges landing failure, a lot better than the weeks it took for B1056 and 11 months (and counting) for B1048.What does Elon mean by saying "Active"?
QuoteYeah. Active fairing half recovered though.Sounds like good fairing splash down and Elon acknowledges landing failure, a lot better than the weeks it took for B1056 and 11 months (and counting) for B1048.
The two halves of the fairing are fastened by mechanical latches along the fairing vertical seam. To deploy the fairing, a high-pressure helium circuit releases the latches, and four pneumatic pushers facilitate positive-force deployment of the two halves. The use of all-pneumatic separation systems provides a benign shock environment, allows acceptance and preflight testing of the actual separation system hardware, and minimizes debris created during separation.
Quote from: Elthiryel on 02/16/2021 11:05 amQuote from: eeergo on 02/16/2021 10:46 amThe just-launched mission has also seen some delays seemingly related to something on the vehicle - and appears to have suffered an engine loss *during ascent* that led to loss of control during the subsequent burn, not being a "life leader" stage at its 5th flight (however amazing that statement reads anyway).The telemetry comparison with the previous Starlink mission does not support a theory about the engine loss during ascent, rather during an entry burn: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=52895.msg2192524#msg2192524It doesn't mean it's not worth being thoroughly checked though, landing reliability is very important for the launch cadence.Fair enough, but the pre-MECO "bucket" (in the interval [145,157] s) does look much more out of family than other recent flights (around 15-20% inferior), in spite of less noisy TM. See, for instance:https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46524.msg2167636#msg2167636https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=52045.msg2170673#msg2170673I would hesitate to claim "the telemetry comparison does not support a theory about engine loss during ascent" until post-MECO MET with the available data. That is not to say it unequivocally supports it either, so I should have better qualified that section of my statement.I would also argue checking the engine issue thoroughly is a necessity regardless of the importance of recovery towards future launch cadence, since it could as well have popped up during ascent (even if it didn't in this situation, which again is debatable), unless the failure signature they have is exclusive of reentry conditions, if there's such a thing.
Quote from: eeergo on 02/16/2021 10:46 amThe just-launched mission has also seen some delays seemingly related to something on the vehicle - and appears to have suffered an engine loss *during ascent* that led to loss of control during the subsequent burn, not being a "life leader" stage at its 5th flight (however amazing that statement reads anyway).The telemetry comparison with the previous Starlink mission does not support a theory about the engine loss during ascent, rather during an entry burn: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=52895.msg2192524#msg2192524It doesn't mean it's not worth being thoroughly checked though, landing reliability is very important for the launch cadence.
The just-launched mission has also seen some delays seemingly related to something on the vehicle - and appears to have suffered an engine loss *during ascent* that led to loss of control during the subsequent burn, not being a "life leader" stage at its 5th flight (however amazing that statement reads anyway).
No, we saw reflections of something burning while it descended, and the explosion on impact. Whether it was the single engine landing burn or not we don't know. It also was changing in brightness about twice per second, so I'm wondering if it wasn't in a spin of some kind.Hope to learn more in the near future.Have a good one,Mike
Uninformed speculation: Off-center plasma is due to incorrect attitude. The grid fins deployed but didn't seem to be moving after that. Perhaps another hydraulic pump failure?
Quote from: Exastro on 02/16/2021 03:33 amUninformed speculation: Off-center plasma is due to incorrect attitude. The grid fins deployed but didn't seem to be moving after that. Perhaps another hydraulic pump failure?it was not only plasma. It was low pressure fuel leak (fire?). There was way too much material for plasma glow.
Quote from: OneSpeed on 02/16/2021 06:03 amHere is a comparison of the S1 telemetry from Starlink L18 and L19.1. The result of the boost phase is identical in terms of velocity and altitude gained.2. The L19 entry burn acceleration reduces by about a quarter from 399-401s, and continues at that level until MECO2 at 405s.3. This difference may well correspond with a single early engine shutdown.Both L18 and L19 execute a g-limiting throttle reduction about 10 s prior to MECO.I assume the spike in 18's acceleration plot immediately prior to that is an artifact of noisy telemetry.But what do you make of 19's ~ 1.6X greater reduction in acceleration?Attached acceleration graphs:* Crop of the final 30s of powered booster ascent.* Crop of entry burn.
Even with unfortunate booster failure, does recovery of large grid fins warrant exploration. Yes, they could be damaged, but it seems like a lot of titanium to let go of. Even if just one was reusable, it would seem to be of benefit.
Comparison of booster accelerations around time of entry burn - blue is last night's flight, red is from 2 weeks ago.It's not a full 33% reduction in thrust so it wasn't a complete engine failure.Afterwards you can see aerodynamic drag rises faster before loss of telemetry
Decreased drag likely due to control system not aiming for the droneship after a detected anomaly
It's consistent with it simply being deeper in the atmosphere at a higher speed