Author Topic: SpaceX F9 / Crew Dragon : Crew-4 : KSC LC-39A : 27 April 2022 (07:52 UTC)  (Read 117968 times)

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Discussion Thread for SpaceX's fourth operational crew mission.

NSF Threads for Crew-4 : Discussion
NSF Threads for Dragon 2 : Discussion

Launch April 27, 2022 at 07:52 UTC (3:52 am EDT) on Falcon 9 (booster 1067-4) from Kennedy Space Center LC-39A using the new Crew Dragon capsule, Freedom (C212-1).

Personnel
Mission Commander: Kjell Lindgren 🇺🇸
Pilot: Bob Hines 🇺🇸
Mission Specialists: Samantha Cristoforetti 🇮🇹

Backup: Stephen Bowen 🇺🇸
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Crosspost:
December SMSR schedule from NASA

December SMSR schedule shows Feb 2022 from LC-39A.

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Crosspost from manifest thread:

Contract mods show Authority to Proceed for the Crew-4 mission, which should be early or mid 2022 depending on what Boeing does next year.

Offline Yellowstone10

First two NASA crewmembers have been assigned for Crew-4: Kjell Lindgren (from the 2009 class) and Bob Hines (from the 2017 class - this should make him the second member of that class to fly, after Raja Chari on Crew-3). Launch date is described only as "2022".

https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew/status/1360307237709840394

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In 2022 means either Spring or Fall. If not Spring because Starliner launches it's first full operational crew flight in Spring 2022 (Feb thru April) then the Crew-4 flight launch will be the first of the normal one Starliner and one Crew D2 flight per year. Starliner picking up the Spring slot and D2 the Fall slot.

As always NASA plans the sure thing prior to doing the maybe's (Starliner first Crew operational flight).

Added: The announcement is in line with the picking of the commander and pilot for them to start training in the D2 simulator for as early as Feb 2022 launch. But is not necessary for them to actually launch then but possibly in the Fall. But is needed to handle the just in case event of problems with Starliner.
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Mmm

Samantha Cristoforetti is training with Crew-4 astronauts.

https://twitter.com/Astro_FarmerBob/status/1377391737505652738?s=20

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At the Crew-2 press conference today, Frank De Winne said that Samantha Cristoforetti will have a direct handover with Matthias Maurer. It is very close to announcing that Samantha Cristoforetti will be part of Crew-4, but nothing formal yet.

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https://spaceflightnow.com/2021/04/20/nasa-chief-russian-cosmonauts-unlikely-fly-on-u-s-crew-capsules-until-next-year/

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“I believe it’s now too late to develop a suit and do the training for Crew-3,” Jurczyk said, referring to a SpaceX Crew Dragon mission scheduled for launch Oct. 23. “So most likely the earliest mission to have a cosmonaut on it would be Crew-4.”

The Crew-4 mission is currently scheduled for launch no earlier than the first quarter of 2022.
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https://spaceflightnow.com/2021/04/21/boeing-crew-capsule-test-flight-now-scheduled-for-late-summer/

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“The plan right now is to alternate — SpaceX, Boeing, SpaceX, Boeing — however, the first Boeing crew flight is delayed, and we’re going to most likely … have four crew flights with SpaceX before the crew test flight with Boeing,” Jurczyk said Tuesday. “So we may have to relook at that, but we haven’t gotten around to talking about that yet.”
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He was counting Demo-2 in that list (so NOT including Crew-4).

https://spaceflightnow.com/2021/04/21/boeing-crew-capsule-test-flight-now-scheduled-for-late-summer/

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“The plan right now is to alternate — SpaceX, Boeing, SpaceX, Boeing — however, the first Boeing crew flight is delayed, and we’re going to most likely … have four crew flights with SpaceX before the crew test flight with Boeing,” Jurczyk said Tuesday. “So we may have to relook at that, but we haven’t gotten around to talking about that yet.”

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NASA says Stephen Bowen "is currently in training as backup for NASA SpaceX Crew-4 mission to the ISS."

BTW, I made a list of all past and future Crew Dragon missions and their crews. It will be kept up-to-date: https://www.elonx.net/list-of-crew-dragon-crews/

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Samantha Cristoforetti will launch on board Crew-4.

https://twitter.com/esa/status/1398247845057208321

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Commanding role for ESA astronaut Samantha Cristoforetti
ESA News Release for Immediate Release

28.05.2021

ESA astronaut Samantha Cristoforetti is expected to assume the role of Commander of the International Space Station for Expedition 68a pending consolidation of operational plans and Space Station launch dates.
As a member of Crew-4, Samantha will launch in 2022 alongside NASA astronauts Kjell Lindgren and Bob Hines from Florida, USA, aboard a SpaceX Crew Dragon spacecraft.
This will be Samantha's second space mission and she will be the first European woman to command the Station.
ESA astronaut Samantha Cristoforetti is expected to serve as International Space Station commander for expedition 68a, following an in-principle agreement by international partners on 19 May, pending consolidation of the Space Station’s operational plans and launch dates. 

As a member of Crew-4, Samantha will be launched to the Station alongside NASA astronauts Kjell Lindgren and Bob Hines from Florida, USA on a SpaceX Crew Dragon spacecraft in 2022. This will be Samantha’s second space mission and the experience she brings will stand her in good stead as Europe’s first female in command of the ISS.

“Returning to the International Space Station to represent Europe is an honour in itself,” says Samantha. “I am humbled by my appointment to the position of commander and look forward to drawing on the experience I’ve gained in space and on Earth to lead a very capable team in orbit.”

ESA Director General Josef Aschbacher says, “Samantha’s nomination to the role of ISS commander is an inspiration to a whole generation currently applying to join ESA's astronaut corps. I cannot wait to meet the final candidates and I take this opportunity to once again encourage women to apply.” 

Choosing a commander
Samantha will be ESA’s fifth International Space Station commander and the fourth from ESA’s astronaut class of 2009.

Decisions around crew assignment and the role each astronaut plays on Station are made in consensus by the Multilateral Crew Operations Panel (MCOP), comprising representatives from all five international partners: US space agency NASA, Russian space agency Roscosmos, Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency JAXA, the European Space Agency ESA and the Canadian Space Agency CSA.

ESA astronaut Frank De Winne was the first European commander of the International Space Station. He now represents the Agency on the MCOP as ESA’s head of the European Astronaut Centre and says Samantha’s appointment demonstrates the value placed on ESA astronauts by its international partners.

“Though overall control of the Station lies with flight directors on the ground, the Space Station commander works to foster team spirit amongst the astronauts and between ground and space crews, ensuring all crew members can perform at their best,” explains Frank.

“Samantha proved herself to be a highly competent and trusted leader during NASA’s NEEMO23 mission among other activities. Her experience and attitude make her an asset for ESA and our partners and I know she will serve us proudly during her time in space.”

A role model for new recruits
Samantha’s nomination comes at a significant moment for European nationals of all genders, as ESA issues a rare call for new astronauts. The deadline for applications to ESA’s astronaut selection has just been extended to 18 June 2021, to accommodate the addition of Lithuania as an ESA Associate Member.

Samantha joined ESA’s astronaut corps during the Agency’s last recruitment campaign in 2008-09 and ESA Director of Human and Robotic Exploration David Parker says her trajectory is an example of the opportunities available to applicants today.

“Samantha joined us just over a decade ago as a highly capable recruit. Now she is a veteran space flyer taking on a leading role.

“Like a number of our active astronauts, Samantha balances a demanding career with raising a family. She embraces both of these challenges with ESA’s strong support and has been an advocate for all those who might be considering a career as an astronaut to put themselves forward and apply.

“I am delighted to see Samantha’s skills, experience and hard work recognised through her appointment to International Space Station commander position. I have no doubt she will continue to inspire us to embrace challenge, maximise our abilities and further our knowledge in space or on Earth,” he says. 

For more information about ESA’s astronaut selection visit esa.int/yourwaytospace.
 

Further information
Full article: http://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Human_and_Robotic_Exploration/Commanding_role_for_ESA_astronaut_Samantha_Cristoforetti

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Crew-4 astronauts Kjell Lindgren, Bob Hines and Samantha Cristoforetti in Emergency Scenarios training at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas, USA.

Credit: NASA-J.Valcarcel

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June SMSR confirms nominal April 2022 launch target. Possible slip due to Boeing Crew 1.
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June SMSR confirms nominal April 2022 launch target. Possible slip due to Boeing Crew 1.

"Crew" is the SpaceX name for a USCV mission.
The Boeing equivalent is "Starliner", so that would be Boeing "Starliner 1".

Carl

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June SMSR confirms nominal April 2022 launch target. Possible slip due to Boeing Crew 1.

"Crew" is the SpaceX name for a USCV mission.
The Boeing equivalent is "Starliner", so that would be Boeing "Starliner 1".

Carl


I don’t disagree that it will be Starliner-1, I’m just using what NASA wrote.
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June SMSR confirms nominal April 2022 launch target. Possible slip due to Boeing Crew 1.

"Crew" is the SpaceX name for a USCV mission.
The Boeing equivalent is "Starliner", so that would be Boeing "Starliner 1".

Carl

Ah, thanks for that data.
I was merely repeating the story, IIRC, from a FIP prior to the SpaceX "Crew 1" launch.
earlier data from NASA had used the USCV nomenclature.

So it sounds like, that even if what I described was true at one time, that NASA has now changed to the
nomenclature that you show.

thanks

Carl

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It could just be the SMSR is using outdated nomenclature. The source document referenced is a year old. Things change all the time.

I believe it will be probably be called Starliner-1, but I don’t know for sure. So I’m just going with what the document says in the absence of anything else that’s recent.

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It could just be the SMSR is using outdated nomenclature. The source document referenced is a year old. Things change all the time.

I believe it will be probably be called Starliner-1, but I don’t know for sure. So I’m just going with what the document says in the absence of anything else that’s recent.

The thing that I was least certain about was the timeframe.
I think the period when we were seeing USCV in NASA planning docs was probably 2018 or before.
I think the Crew/Starliner terminology started appearing around the time of the DM1 flight.
Lets say +/-6months from March 2019 [after all we usually see those docs some time after they are
generated.
I suspect the conversations that I recollect took place either in a Commercial Crew thread
or in threads about NASA planning docs.
I find that the pandemic has distorted my time sense so I could be way off in those time estimates.

Carl


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