Quote from: envy887 on 12/14/2023 04:56 pmQuote from: edzieba on 12/13/2023 04:08 pmQuote from: Nomadd on 12/13/2023 12:59 pm In other words, the government requirements would have prevented people from getting service instead of helping them.Damned if you do, dammed if you don't. Set very low (100mbps down 30 mbps up IIRC) minimum service requirements, be accused of setting requirements too high, don't set minimum service requirements and be accused of GEO SATCOM/dialup/GSM providers receiving funds for doing little to nothing. Sadly, regulatory capture means that proposing an actual solution (funding of last-mile link installation, and mandating Local Loop Unbundling) which would allow actual direct competition, would disrupt the current commercial monopoly model that US ISPs operate under, so is a non-starter without regulatory reform.The requirements were 100/20, and that is not "very low" when you consider that the vast majority of the areas Starlink bid on have zero providers offering service meeting the old 25/3 FCC standard. Starlink, even if it isn't quite at 100/20 on average yet, is still a massive upgrade.And they had till 2025 to hit 100mb average, and are trending higher, yet the govt says they are trending lower (despite the data)
Quote from: edzieba on 12/13/2023 04:08 pmQuote from: Nomadd on 12/13/2023 12:59 pm In other words, the government requirements would have prevented people from getting service instead of helping them.Damned if you do, dammed if you don't. Set very low (100mbps down 30 mbps up IIRC) minimum service requirements, be accused of setting requirements too high, don't set minimum service requirements and be accused of GEO SATCOM/dialup/GSM providers receiving funds for doing little to nothing. Sadly, regulatory capture means that proposing an actual solution (funding of last-mile link installation, and mandating Local Loop Unbundling) which would allow actual direct competition, would disrupt the current commercial monopoly model that US ISPs operate under, so is a non-starter without regulatory reform.The requirements were 100/20, and that is not "very low" when you consider that the vast majority of the areas Starlink bid on have zero providers offering service meeting the old 25/3 FCC standard. Starlink, even if it isn't quite at 100/20 on average yet, is still a massive upgrade.
Quote from: Nomadd on 12/13/2023 12:59 pm In other words, the government requirements would have prevented people from getting service instead of helping them.Damned if you do, dammed if you don't. Set very low (100mbps down 30 mbps up IIRC) minimum service requirements, be accused of setting requirements too high, don't set minimum service requirements and be accused of GEO SATCOM/dialup/GSM providers receiving funds for doing little to nothing. Sadly, regulatory capture means that proposing an actual solution (funding of last-mile link installation, and mandating Local Loop Unbundling) which would allow actual direct competition, would disrupt the current commercial monopoly model that US ISPs operate under, so is a non-starter without regulatory reform.
In other words, the government requirements would have prevented people from getting service instead of helping them.
Their current determination is that SpaceX is not capable of meeting that, hence the judgement.
If the FCC is gonna hold them to that standard, they're also checking on the other RDOF participants and their adherence to said standard, right?
Citizens are petitioning the FCC's decision which has VIASat worried enough to file legal opinions against it.https://www.pcmag.com/news/viasat-tries-to-stop-citizen-effort-to-revive-fcc-funding-for-starlink