Author Topic: FAILURE: Firefly Alpha 1st flight - Vandenberg SLC-2W - 3 Sep 2021 (01:59 UTC)  (Read 88211 times)

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Mission patch, via Everyday Astronaut

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https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1432720991235551250

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I checked with Firefly, whose first Alpha launch is scheduled for Thursday from Vandenberg, and they say they have no issues with consumables that would delay their launch.

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Here's something I've never seen before: an NGA notice with Rocket Launching and Space Debris in the same notice.

There are two launch times, both on Friday, September 3 UTC ... ~01:00 UTC and ~20:00 UTC.

Also note that this notice cancels NAVAREA XII 456/21.  NAVAREA XII 456/21 was a generic Hazardous Operations notice.  I did wonder if it was for this launch, but it was unclear enough that I didn't post it here.

Quote from: NGA
312138Z AUG 21
NAVAREA XII 461/21(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   030030Z TO 030547Z SEP,
   ALTERNATE 031930Z TO 032247Z SEP
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   34-49N 120-37W, 34-33N 120-35W,
   33-00N 123-53W, 33-04N 124-08W,
   33-17N 124-02W, 34-56N 120-50W.
2. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   030030Z TO 030524Z SEP,
   ALTERNATE 031930Z TO 032224Z SEP
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   31-11N 128-45W, 30-19N 128-04W,
   28-48N 130-35W, 29-53N 131-27W.
3. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 456/21.
4. CANCEL THIS MSG 032347Z SEP 21.

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Does anyone have an idea where I may be able to actually see this from? Is Surf Beach typically closed for a SLC-2 launch?

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https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1433211725784834049

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Weather is 100% go for Thursday's Firefly Alpha launch attempt.

Ok, it's that time again, guess the rideshare payload!
In all seriousness, I wanted to confirm the launch manifest. I'll be pulling info from two locations:

Wikipedia's List of spaceflight launches in July–December 2021 article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight_launches_in_July%E2%80%93December_2021

The Everyday Astronaut "FLTA001 DREAM | Alpha" page. https://everydayastronaut.com/flta001-dream-alpha/

The lists differ, likely because certain payloads got other rides, weren't ready, etc.

The Wikipedia payload list:

BSS-1
CRESST DREAM COMET
Firefly Capsule 1  (hosted on second stage)
PICOBUS-1 (deploying:)
  GENESIS N
  GENESIS L
  QUBIK 1
  QUBIK 2
  FOSSASAT 1b
  FOSSASAT 2
Hiapo
Magneto
NPS-CENETIX-Orbital 1
Spinnaker3 (hosted on second stage)
TIS Serenity

Firefly's OTV third stage


On Everyday Astronauts page, he has:

Non-technical payloads (Firefly Capsule 1)  (hosted on second stage)
PICOBUS-1 (deploying:)
  GENESIS N
  GENESIS L
  QUBIK 1
  QUBIK 2
  FOSSASAT 1b
  FOSSASAT 2
Hiapo
TIS Serenity
BSS-1

Spinnaker3 (hosted on second stage)


As we can see, these don't match up with "CRESST DREAM COMET" "Magneto" "NPS-CENETIX-Orbital 1" being missing and the SUV third stage not mentioned. So, like the Transporter threads, we should figure out what's actually flying. My gut says go with Everyday Astronaut's list unless we find out otherwise regarding the "missing" payloads.

I did want to touch on the SUV, in this https://interfax.com.ua/news/general/762935.html article, dated 8/20/21, claims that
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The Ukrainian company Space Electric Thruster Systems (SETS) will provide its SPS-25 propulsion system for the debut launch of the Alpha rocket, a rocket and space technology developer Firefly Aerospace Inc.
Which would be the engine(s) used on the OTV. How credible this report is remains to be seen, however.
« Last Edit: 09/03/2021 12:43 am by Jrcraft »
AE/ME
6 Suborbital spaceflight payloads. 14.55 minutes of in-space time.

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Does anyone have an idea where I may be able to actually see this from? Is Surf Beach typically closed for a SLC-2 launch?

I believe it generally closes at 6pm regardless.
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Does anyone have an idea where I may be able to actually see this from? Is Surf Beach typically closed for a SLC-2 launch?

I believe it generally closes at 6pm regardless.
If it is open, the best bet is Hawk's Nest, which is just south of the Vandenberg Main Gate off of CA Hwy 1.

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Everyday Astronaut's webcast of Firefly Alpha-FLT001 has started.


« Last Edit: 09/03/2021 12:02 am by Llian Rhydderch »
Re arguments from authority on NSF:  "no one is exempt from error, and errors of authority are usually the worst kind.  Taking your word for things without question is no different than a bracket design not being tested because the designer was an old hand."
"You would actually save yourself time and effort if you were to use evidence and logic to make your points instead of wrapping yourself in the royal mantle of authority.  The approach only works on sheep, not inquisitive, intelligent people."

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Tim is live. Still counting to top of window, in 50 minutes.

45 minutes. Weather still 100% GO!
« Last Edit: 09/03/2021 12:15 am by RocketLover0119 »
"The Starship has landed"

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T-40 Minutes. MC has confirmed pointy end up, flamey end down!  ;D
"The Starship has landed"

I did want to touch on the OTV, in this https://interfax.com.ua/news/general/762935.html article, dated 8/20/21, claims that
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The Ukrainian company Space Electric Thruster Systems (SETS) will provide its SPS-25 propulsion system for the debut launch of the Alpha rocket, a rocket and space technology developer Firefly Aerospace Inc.
Which would be the engine(s) used on the OTV. How credible this report is remains to be seen, however.
Everyday Astronauts website has been updating regarding this. It states:
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On board of this first flight of Alpha is a test article for Firefly’s upcoming Space Utility Vehicle (SUV). The ST-25 Hall-Effect Thruster from Space Electric Thrusters Systems is an ion thruster. The ST-25 differs from other thrusters of that type as it utilizes a permanent magnet instead of more commonly used electromagnet. This results in a lower power consumption, which increases overall efficiency.
AE/ME
6 Suborbital spaceflight payloads. 14.55 minutes of in-space time.

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https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1433588721173991426

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As we wait for Firefly’s launch this evening, here’s a look inside their Launch Control Center (LCC). Though these were shot yesterday, this should be the same layout controllers are looking at right now. @NASASpaceflight

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25 minutes. Preview of cam angles. Trench and gimbal cam!  :D
"The Starship has landed"

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T-18 minutes. Teams have polled GO for launch!
"The Starship has landed"

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Under 9 minutes to launch. Everything still go!
"The Starship has landed"

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5 and a half minutes to launch. Strongback retract has begun!

Strongback is in flight position.
« Last Edit: 09/03/2021 12:56 am by RocketLover0119 »
"The Starship has landed"

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3 minutes. FTS is armed for flight.
"The Starship has landed"

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