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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #420 on: 06/07/2021 09:41 pm »
Do we have anything definitive confirming USSF-44 will feature the first dual droneship landing?
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #421 on: 06/07/2021 09:48 pm »
Do we have anything definitive confirming USSF-44 will feature the first dual droneship landing?

It was confirmed by SFN:

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The core stage will be expended on the launch, while the rocket’s two side boosters will be recovered on two SpaceX drone ships positioned downrange east of Cape Canaveral.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #422 on: 06/08/2021 12:25 am »
Nationsat was supposed to be on a rideshare with Interspunik. They also had a contract with NG on Omega.
The first Nationsat was supposed to be for Intersputnik, not a rideshare with another Intersputnik payload.  I haven't heard anything about progress on that program, I wouldn't be surprised if it's no longer happening.

Yes, Intersputnik was going to be their first customer. That was supposed to be a rideshare with another unnamed partner. Sorry if it wasn’t clear.

https://www.spaceintelreport.com/russia-intersputnik-citing-spacex-co-passenger-delay-seek-itu-deadline-extension-for-saturn-satellite-networks-nationsat/

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #423 on: 06/15/2021 02:13 pm »
If Transporter 2 is now confirmed as RTLS on 25 June, what and when is next flight?

JRTI is available very soon after if not by 26 June. There is usually at least a hint of other upcoming missions at http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html
if there are any soon.

Why no details/gap?


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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #424 on: 06/15/2021 02:22 pm »
If Transporter 2 is now confirmed as RTLS on 25 June, what and when is next flight?

JRTI is available very soon after if not by 26 June. There is usually at least a hint of other upcoming missions at http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html
if there are any soon.

Why no details/gap?



If I had to speculate I'd say the next flight out of Cape Canaveral is Starlink L29 sometime around July 1st.
« Last Edit: 06/15/2021 02:22 pm by Orbiter »
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #425 on: 06/15/2021 04:02 pm »
If Transporter 2 is now confirmed as RTLS on 25 June, what and when is next flight?

JRTI is available very soon after if not by 26 June. There is usually at least a hint of other upcoming missions at http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html
if there are any soon.

Why no details/gap?



If I had to speculate I'd say the next flight out of Cape Canaveral is Starlink L29 sometime around July 1st.

What's crazy is that it's June 15th, there are 2 Falcon 9 flights in the next 9 days, that we expect a third flight in 16 days or so, and that this 3rd flight has not been announced yet.

This is such a stunning achievement for SpaceX.  I've been closely following space flight for nearly 30 years.  This pace and response time that we have gotten use to was only dreamed of by many of us for so long.

We are all excited about Starship, but Falcon 9 is already a huge revolution!
Starship, Vulcan and Ariane 6 have all reached orbit.  New Glenn, well we are waiting!

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #426 on: 06/15/2021 08:28 pm »
If Transporter 2 is now confirmed as RTLS on 25 June, what and when is next flight?

JRTI is available very soon after if not by 26 June. There is usually at least a hint of other upcoming missions at http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html
if there are any soon.

Why no details/gap?



If I had to speculate I'd say the next flight out of Cape Canaveral is Starlink L29 sometime around July 1st.

What's crazy is that it's June 15th, there are 2 Falcon 9 flights in the next 9 days, that we expect a third flight in 16 days or so, and that this 3rd flight has not been announced yet.

This is such a stunning achievement for SpaceX.  I've been closely following space flight for nearly 30 years.  This pace and response time that we have gotten use to was only dreamed of by many of us for so long.

We are all excited about Starship, but Falcon 9 is already a huge revolution!

Yeah, we already got too used to SpaceX's ease in launching and recovering an incredible amount of rockets.
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #427 on: 06/15/2021 09:48 pm »
Did they decide to do the late 2022 flight in October instead of December?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #428 on: 06/15/2021 10:00 pm »
Did they decide to do the late 2022 flight in October instead of December?

Hm, maybe... Although some customers like Alba and Lynk have mentioned Dec 2022 specifically.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #429 on: 06/15/2021 10:10 pm »
I would also like to know what the March 2022 opportunity is. I'm thinking SARah or WorldView?

EDIT: Hm, actually, it's listed in the Dedicated category. So I guess it's just a regular Transporter launch?
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #430 on: 06/15/2021 11:26 pm »
I would also like to know what the March 2022 opportunity is. I'm thinking SARah or WorldView?

EDIT: Hm, actually, it's listed in the Dedicated category. So I guess it's just a regular Transporter launch?

Yes, I think so too. Had heard a few months back they were floating the idea of doing 3 Transporter missions a year, but nothing solid and forgot to follow up.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #431 on: 06/16/2021 12:11 am »
I'd kinda like to quit pretending we know the names of these missions.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #432 on: 06/17/2021 07:23 pm »
To date that is 19 flights for the F9 in 2021.

If they finish with 40+ flights this year that would be amazing. 

It should be possible with both east and west coast operations and 3 combined ASDS working.

This cadence is just fantastic. 
Starship, Vulcan and Ariane 6 have all reached orbit.  New Glenn, well we are waiting!

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #433 on: 06/17/2021 08:35 pm »
Next Spaceflight is showing all Transporter launches after Transporter-2 from SLC-4E.

Makes sense considering SSO.

Pretty full manifest of NRO, Starlink, and Transporter rideshares. I’m thinking they’ll add a second or third older booster to the west coast now that they have so many out east.
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #434 on: 06/17/2021 10:26 pm »
Next Spaceflight is showing all Transporter launches after Transporter-2 from SLC-4E.

Makes sense considering SSO.

Pretty full manifest of NRO, Starlink, and Transporter rideshares. I’m thinking they’ll add a second or third older booster to the west coast now that they have so many out east.

Michael said he just put that as a likely location, not confirmed.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #435 on: 06/18/2021 05:20 pm »
Received word there are multiple Starlink launches planned for July. No details beyond that.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #436 on: 06/18/2021 10:54 pm »
Received word there are multiple Starlink launches planned for July. No details beyond that.
Considering there is nothing but Starlink sats available for a launch in July for east coast much less the one scheduled for the west coast (VSFB), that is a safe bet.

The question is how many launches. Until the ASDS ASOG is available the number of launches may be just 3 or less from LC39A and LC40. Do we have an availability date for ASOG? Do we have a turn around time for JRTI Launch 2 Launch of serial Starlink launches?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #437 on: 06/18/2021 11:17 pm »

The question is how many launches. Until the ASDS ASOG is available the number of launches may be just 3 or less from LC39A and LC40.

If ASDS availability is the limiting factor,  can they add an RTLS launch ?
What will be the number of Starlink sats on such a flight?
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #438 on: 06/18/2021 11:36 pm »
If ASDS availability is the limiting factor,  can they add an RTLS launch ?
What will be the number of Starlink sats on such a flight?

We’ve done the calculations before. Basically the cost of a launch is about 5% less with RTLS, but you’re launching half the payload and you save 3-4 days on the turnaround.

Doubling the effective cost for limited benefit doesn’t make sense, especially when you can still do 3-4 launches a month with a single ASDS.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Discussion Thread
« Reply #439 on: 06/19/2021 12:03 am »
We’ve done the calculations before. Basically the cost of a launch is about 5% less with RTLS, but you’re launching half the payload and you save 3-4 days on the turnaround.

Doubling the effective cost for limited benefit doesn’t make sense, especially when you can still do 3-4 launches a month with a single ASDS.

Yes, and we have an existence proof. If it were more cost effective to RTLS Starlink missions, believe we would see that as the norm. Instead, SpaceX norm for Starlink is ASDS.

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