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« Last Edit: 08/15/2023 07:50 pm by yg1968 »

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Re: Intuitive Machines
« Reply #43 on: 08/16/2023 03:57 pm »
I didn't know they were in such a shaky financial situation; I assumed they were an established contractor but that balance sheet has startup written all over it.  Three more quarters like that and they're bankrupt.  Their backlog would be enough lifeline to slog through the coming recession where investor capital will be almost impossible to come by, but realizing that revenue means spending a bunch and delivering products to get it.  They seem to be pinning their hopes on that $3 billion in proposals that they've just spammed the industry with to keep investors reassured.

If they can fly IM-1 successfully before the market crash they might just get a windfall.  If IM-1 isn't a success, it looks doubtful IM-2 will launch, currently NET early 2024.

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Re: Intuitive Machines
« Reply #44 on: 02/13/2024 08:02 pm »
Does anyone here know the mass of the fuel, liquid methane and oxygen, on IM-1?
Gunters has a launch mass of 1908 kg.
NASA GSFC also says 1908 kg and lists the thrust as 3100 N but has no more information.
Of interest is the mass fraction and Isp to estimate the total delta-V capacity for another application.
...assuming the IM-1 flight goes well and Intuitive Systems lives to fight another day....
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: Intuitive Machines
« Reply #45 on: 02/13/2024 08:15 pm »
Does anyone here know the mass of the fuel, liquid methane and oxygen, on IM-1?
Gunters has a launch mass of 1908 kg.
NASA GSFC also says 1908 kg and lists the thrust as 3100 N but has no more information.
Of interest is the mass fraction and Isp to estimate the total delta-V capacity for another application.
...assuming the IM-1 flight goes well and Intuitive Systems lives to fight another day....

1,200 kg

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Re: Intuitive Machines
« Reply #46 on: 02/14/2024 06:29 am »
Launch scrubbed due to off-nominal methane temps. A cryogenic lander would naturally have some teething issues. I wonder if they'll share the boiloff data?


https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1757623502289686797?s=20

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Standing down from tonight’s attempt due to off-nominal methane temperatures prior to stepping into methane load. Now targeting Thursday, February 15 at 1:05 a.m. ET for Falcon 9's launch of the
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 IM-1 mission from Florida → http://spacex.com/launches
« Last Edit: 02/14/2024 07:08 am by Lampyridae »

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Re: Intuitive Machines
« Reply #47 on: 02/14/2024 11:29 am »
Although I am a big supporter of the policy of NASA buying space science data ftom private companies (I wrote the enabling language in the Commercial Space Act of 1998), I am not happy with the implementation.

My take on the implementation: NASA throws money at startups with no track record, and hopes that they can pull off lunar landings with zero experience in space. Giving contracts for companies that haven't even launched a Cubesat is a recipe for disaster.

Once enough of these errors result in money thrown into the trash, I would hope that NASA will simply buy data from private missions, funded by private capital.

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Re: Intuitive Machines
« Reply #48 on: 02/14/2024 04:32 pm »
Although I am a big supporter of the policy of NASA buying space science data ftom private companies (I wrote the enabling language in the Commercial Space Act of 1998), I am not happy with the implementation.

My take on the implementation: NASA throws money at startups with no track record, and hopes that they can pull off lunar landings with zero experience in space. Giving contracts for companies that haven't even launched a Cubesat is a recipe for disaster.

Once enough of these errors result in money thrown into the trash, I would hope that NASA will simply buy data from private missions, funded by private capital.

Your post is about CLPS, not IM in particular, so I'll reply soon in the CLPS thread (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=45580.0).

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Re: Intuitive Machines
« Reply #49 on: 02/15/2024 01:57 pm »
The IM-1 mission Nova-C lunar lander has established a stable attitude, solar charging, and radio communications contact with the Company’s mission operations center in Houston.
https://investors.intuitivemachines.com/news-releases/news-release-details/im-1-mission-nova-c-lunar-lander-successfully-enroute-moon
« Last Edit: 02/15/2024 01:57 pm by Zander the space nerd »

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Re: Intuitive Machines
« Reply #50 on: 02/21/2024 01:22 pm »
Approximately what time today is the lunar orbit insertion burn?
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Re: Intuitive Machines
« Reply #51 on: 02/21/2024 10:18 pm »
I know you found it, but for the future reference of anyone coming across this thread, all IM-1 mission updates are occurring in its mission thread.

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Re: Intuitive Machines
« Reply #52 on: 03/07/2024 05:57 pm »
https://mainenginecutoff.com/podcast/269

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T+269: IM-1 and Beyond (with Tim Crain, Co-Founder and CTO of Intuitive Machines)
MARCH 7, 2024

Tim Crain, Co-Founder and CTO of Intuitive Machines, joins me to talk about their recent IM-1 mission to land Odysseus on the Moon as part of NASA’s CLPS program.

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Re: Intuitive Machines
« Reply #53 on: 03/09/2024 10:01 pm »
For cross-reference purposes and any reading through this thread at a later date, there are detailed notes on the above podcast (which covers IM-1 and some of the plans for IM-2) here.
« Last Edit: 03/12/2024 03:43 am by theinternetftw »

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Re: Intuitive Machines
« Reply #54 on: 07/06/2024 01:47 pm »
How Small Teams at Intuitive Machines Are Solving Big Lunar Challenges:
https://gizmodo.com/how-small-teams-at-intuitive-machines-are-solving-big-l-1851561547

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