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#200
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 12 Jul, 2020 14:52
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https://twitter.com/spacexfleet/status/1282306914467090438 Arrival! Ms. Tree and Ms. Chief have returned to Port Canaveral, following the postponement of the Starlink mission.
They won't be here for very long - expected to depart again very soon for the ANASIS-II mission. 📷 visitspacecoast.com
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#201
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 12 Jul, 2020 16:18
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Wow
https://twitter.com/schilkescott/status/1282294397153931265A stormy #florida July 10th #capecanavaral #sunset over @SpaceX launch complex 39A indicating in advance that this #Falcon9 #starlink mission is not ready for flight yet. Still waiting for word from #SpaceX on the fourth launch attempt date #Space @WeReportSpace @ExploreSpaceKSC
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#202
by
zubenelgenubi
on 12 Jul, 2020 17:49
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It >appears< that this flight has been delayed until after ANASIS-II launch on July 14.
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#203
by
Vettedrmr
on 12 Jul, 2020 19:58
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Hmm... this is the first Falcon 9 in a while that didn't pass its static fire with flying colors, had to be brought back into the barn and delayed for what was identified as a leaking valve. And the launch attempt scrubbed for weather was counted down to T-1 minute to get "data collection" on the booster, before being aborted. Now, today they won't even consider moving to prop load. What type of "additional checkout" could be needed? This booster has been static fired since its cleanup/refurb, and has been up and down on the pad several times. Seems, as has been said, that they've had tons of time to run checkouts.
This seems (note, I said "seems") to add up to there being something going in with this booster that is seriously concerning to those responsible for launching it. There seems to be more internal pressure *not* to launch than on any previous Falcon I can recall. Ever since the static fire, it just feels like SpaceX is spring-loaded not to launch position on this one, but to scrub position.
Again, hmm...
I wonder why no one is thinking the problem could be with the payload?
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#204
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 13 Jul, 2020 14:41
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Vehicle now horizontal per 321launch youtube stream:
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#205
by
zubenelgenubi
on 13 Jul, 2020 18:15
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ANASIS-II launch delayed.Standing down from tomorrow’s launch of ANASIS-II to take a closer look at the second stage, swap hardware if needed. Will announce new target launch date once confirmed on the Range.
That's a launch delay for Falcon 9's at both LC-39A and SLC-40.
Might this
Starlink launch become again the next launch?
Something to ponder...
I wonder why no one is thinking the problem could be with the payload?
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#206
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 13 Jul, 2020 19:58
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#207
by
Thorny
on 13 Jul, 2020 21:26
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Something to ponder...
I wonder why no one is thinking the problem could be with the payload?
Would they have counted down to T-1 minute during the weather scrub last week to test the payload?
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#208
by
Vettedrmr
on 13 Jul, 2020 21:37
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Practicing abort procedures; safing, detanking, etc. And remember that scrub was for weather. We don't really know why the subsequent launch attempt was cancelled (at least I don't think so).
Have a good one,
Mike
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#209
by
kdhilliard
on 13 Jul, 2020 21:37
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Would they have counted down to T-1 minute during the weather scrub last week to test the payload?
It isn't the first time they've done that.
Who has some statistics on how SpaceX has typically handled weather scrubs which happen after propellant load has started?
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#210
by
Thunderscreech
on 14 Jul, 2020 13:39
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#211
by
Alvian@IDN
on 14 Jul, 2020 13:47
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#212
by
RocketLover0119
on 14 Jul, 2020 13:55
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#213
by
Thunderscreech
on 14 Jul, 2020 14:00
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Oh that’s a good point, whoops!
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#214
by
kdhilliard
on 14 Jul, 2020 14:03
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Pretty sure this is for ANASIS considering the 3 hour window.
Yep. Effective times from 16:25 to 21:47 (local) are an exact match to those of the TFR supporting the previous ANASIS II launch date.
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#215
by
IntoTheVoid
on 14 Jul, 2020 16:35
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ANASIS-II launch delayed.
Standing down from tomorrow’s launch of ANASIS-II to take a closer look at the second stage, swap hardware if needed. Will announce new target launch date once confirmed on the Range.
That's a launch delay for Falcon 9's at both LC-39A and SLC-40.
Might this Starlink launch become again the next launch?
Given Elon's reference to 'swap hardware if needed', does anyone think that there's a chance that L9 got delayed specifically because they already saw the problem with the ANASIS 2nd stage, and that the 2nd stage for L9 might fly on ANASIS?
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#216
by
gongora
on 14 Jul, 2020 16:36
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ANASIS-II launch delayed.
Standing down from tomorrow’s launch of ANASIS-II to take a closer look at the second stage, swap hardware if needed. Will announce new target launch date once confirmed on the Range.
That's a launch delay for Falcon 9's at both LC-39A and SLC-40.
Might this Starlink launch become again the next launch?
Given Elon's reference to 'swap hardware if needed', does anyone think that there's a chance that L9 got delayed specifically because the already saw the problem with the ANASIS 2nd stage, and that the 2nd stage for L9 might fly on ANASIS?
No
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#217
by
IntoTheVoid
on 14 Jul, 2020 16:54
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ANASIS-II launch delayed.
Standing down from tomorrow’s launch of ANASIS-II to take a closer look at the second stage, swap hardware if needed. Will announce new target launch date once confirmed on the Range.
That's a launch delay for Falcon 9's at both LC-39A and SLC-40.
Might this Starlink launch become again the next launch?
Given Elon's reference to 'swap hardware if needed', does anyone think that there's a chance that L9 got delayed specifically because the already saw the problem with the ANASIS 2nd stage, and that the 2nd stage for L9 might fly on ANASIS?
No
While that was a fabulous Jim impersonation, might you elaborate why they would not do this if they felt the time to repair the ANASIS 2nd stage might be extensive?
Thanks.
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#218
by
ugordan
on 14 Jul, 2020 17:15
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ANASIS-II launch delayed.
Standing down from tomorrow’s launch of ANASIS-II to take a closer look at the second stage, swap hardware if needed. Will announce new target launch date once confirmed on the Range.
That's a launch delay for Falcon 9's at both LC-39A and SLC-40.
Might this Starlink launch become again the next launch?
Given Elon's reference to 'swap hardware if needed', does anyone think that there's a chance that L9 got delayed specifically because the already saw the problem with the ANASIS 2nd stage, and that the 2nd stage for L9 might fly on ANASIS?
No
While that was a fabulous Jim impersonation, might you elaborate why they would not do this if they felt the time to repair the ANASIS 2nd stage might be extensive?
Thanks.
Well, since more serious Block 5 reuse started, production of upper stages has obviously been decoupled from 1st stage production so my counter-question would be why do you think there aren't any other available S2s at hand to replace it with?
Personally, I'm more interested in knowing what broke on ANASIS-II S2. Eric Berger's mysterious haiku-sounding tweet almost implies it's the niobium nozzle extension again.
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#219
by
IntoTheVoid
on 14 Jul, 2020 18:22
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ANASIS-II launch delayed.
Standing down from tomorrow’s launch of ANASIS-II to take a closer look at the second stage, swap hardware if needed. Will announce new target launch date once confirmed on the Range.
That's a launch delay for Falcon 9's at both LC-39A and SLC-40.
Might this Starlink launch become again the next launch?
Given Elon's reference to 'swap hardware if needed', does anyone think that there's a chance that L9 got delayed specifically because the already saw the problem with the ANASIS 2nd stage, and that the 2nd stage for L9 might fly on ANASIS?
No
While that was a fabulous Jim impersonation, might you elaborate why they would not do this if they felt the time to repair the ANASIS 2nd stage might be extensive?
Thanks.
Well, since more serious Block 5 reuse started, production of upper stages has obviously been decoupled from 1st stage production so my counter-question would be why do you think there aren't any other available S2s at hand to replace it with?
I would expect plenty 2nd stages through production, but not necessarily on-site. They had seemed to try to time their deliveries of 'new' parts as late as reasonable the last time I watched closely (which was admittedly a while ago)
SpaceX had also seemed to be doing very well in avoiding delays for mechanical issues, and then to have two delays, days apart would seem to me (IANARS), to be more likely related than not. Of course they could still be related in a way that doesn't borrow a whole 2nd stage.
In any case, it's not that I am convinced that this is what they are doing, just investigating reasonableness as to why they would or would not.
Personally, I'm more interested in knowing what broke on ANASIS-II S2. Eric Berger's mysterious haiku-sounding tweet almost implies it's the niobium nozzle extension again.
I took that as more of a joke than an implication.
BUT, at this stage in their history, if they were to snip a nozzle extension again, I would expect them to fly it on a Starlink flight, not a customer flight..