So, the NASA worm will be erased and the stage will be refurbished to fly another day.
So, the NASA worm will be erased and the stage will be refurbished to fly another day. The same is likely to happen to at least 3 other F9 booster stages, given that it will take SpaceX at least 3 operational missions to convince NASA to refly booster stages on CCP missions.
Any further word on the hardwire communication connection from ISS to DM-2? I’m curious whether it turned out to be interference or something else.
Quote from: woods170 on 06/03/2020 01:19 pmSo, the NASA worm will be erased and the stage will be refurbished to fly another day.Do you think there is a chance that they will leave the worm in place and only use this booster for NASA cargo missions? That would of course mean that NASA first would have to be ok with using a booster that has landed at sea.
Quote from: woods170 on 06/03/2020 01:19 pmSo, the NASA worm will be erased and the stage will be refurbished to fly another day. The same is likely to happen to at least 3 other F9 booster stages, given that it will take SpaceX at least 3 operational missions to convince NASA to refly booster stages on CCP missions.I can absolutely agree that they will reuse the booster, but I dont see any reason why they would remove the graphics on the booster. SpaceX tries to do as little to a booster as possible after a flight (I have never seen them retouch a paint job once flown), and i dont see any customers complaining about NASA graphics on their flight.
Quote from: Ronsmytheiii on 06/03/2020 02:00 pmQuote from: woods170 on 06/03/2020 01:19 pmSo, the NASA worm will be erased and the stage will be refurbished to fly another day. The same is likely to happen to at least 3 other F9 booster stages, given that it will take SpaceX at least 3 operational missions to convince NASA to refly booster stages on CCP missions.I can absolutely agree that they will reuse the booster, but I dont see any reason why they would remove the graphics on the booster. SpaceX tries to do as little to a booster as possible after a flight (I have never seen them retouch a paint job once flown), and i dont see any customers complaining about NASA graphics on their flight.The one to complain would be NASA. Because having a NASA logo on an Intelsat launch would, in the eye of the general public, associate NASA with Intelsat in a way that is unwanted by NASA.Also, removing the logo is no big deal and quite inexpensive. SpaceX has done touch-ups to re-flown F9 booster stages where it was needed. In a similar fashion getting rid of the NASA logo is as simple as cleaning that particular part of the stage surface and re-paint it.
Quote from: EspenU on 06/03/2020 01:45 pmQuote from: woods170 on 06/03/2020 01:19 pmSo, the NASA worm will be erased and the stage will be refurbished to fly another day.Do you think there is a chance that they will leave the worm in place and only use this booster for NASA cargo missions? That would of course mean that NASA first would have to be ok with using a booster that has landed at sea.NASA don't get to pick the booster that cargo Dragon flies on. However, NASA does have the right to decide which booster Cargo Dragon does NOT fly on.Remember, for both CRS-2 and CCP NASA is buying a service. They are not buying a booster and a spaceship. NASA does however have a stipulation in place that it wants brand new launchers for CCP missions. NASA, so far, has not allowed SpaceX to fly a drone ship landed booster on a CRS mission. This is based on the original CRS contract which also stipulated all-new boosters for each CRS launch. This was later amended to allow land-landed boosters to be re-flown on CRS missions. But not ocean landed boosters. As far as I know that stipulation is also in place for the follow-on CRS-2 contract.
This was the first crewed launch from the United States in 9 years and the first crewed launch ever by a commercial provider. Amateur radio operators always follow this kind of events with their hobby, and in the hours and days following the launch, several Amateur operators have posted reception reports of the Crew Dragon C206 “Endeavour” signals.
Quote from: kevinof on 06/01/2020 07:57 pmSo it was interesting to hear their comments today to Benji @Spacex. Trying to remember their words: ...For the record, from @06:25:QuoteBenji Reed: What did it feel like riding on Falcon 9?Doug Hurley: It never gets old talking about riding on Falcon 9. From the time the engines lit, the first two and a half minutes to staging was about like we expected, except you can never simulate the Gs, so as the Gs built you could certainly feel those. Also, what I thought was really neat was how sensitive we were to the throttling of the Merlin engines. That was really neat. You could definitely sense that as we went transonic and broke Mach 1 we could definitely feel that. In fact I said it to Bob and then the next thing you know the call was made, and we didn't even need to look at the speed. You could tell just by how the rocket felt. It's a very pure flying machine.The next thing that really stood out for me was first stage separation with the engine cutoff and that separation event. Going to zero G for split second and then the Merlin vacuum engine lighting. That was a pretty neat event. That was a highlight of the ascent for me. And then once the M-vac started, then it was that kind of driving fast, very fast, on a gravel road, is how it felt the rest of the way up. A little bit of vibrations, not anything that was really unpleasant, but you certainly knew that there was a powerful engine behind you at the time, and that obviously took us all the way to orbit about six minutes later. And one again the Gs and how the engine throttled to control the Gs and then straight to cut off, and then just like with Shuttle, you go from three, actually in this case we were more than three Gs, to zero Gs instantaneously, and we knew we made it to orbit.It is such a pleasure to see the rapport the crew has with the SpaceXers, but it's a shame we didn't have a cabin view for either MECO or SECO.Edit: Fixed quotes
So it was interesting to hear their comments today to Benji @Spacex. Trying to remember their words: ...
Benji Reed: What did it feel like riding on Falcon 9?Doug Hurley: It never gets old talking about riding on Falcon 9. From the time the engines lit, the first two and a half minutes to staging was about like we expected, except you can never simulate the Gs, so as the Gs built you could certainly feel those. Also, what I thought was really neat was how sensitive we were to the throttling of the Merlin engines. That was really neat. You could definitely sense that as we went transonic and broke Mach 1 we could definitely feel that. In fact I said it to Bob and then the next thing you know the call was made, and we didn't even need to look at the speed. You could tell just by how the rocket felt. It's a very pure flying machine.The next thing that really stood out for me was first stage separation with the engine cutoff and that separation event. Going to zero G for split second and then the Merlin vacuum engine lighting. That was a pretty neat event. That was a highlight of the ascent for me. And then once the M-vac started, then it was that kind of driving fast, very fast, on a gravel road, is how it felt the rest of the way up. A little bit of vibrations, not anything that was really unpleasant, but you certainly knew that there was a powerful engine behind you at the time, and that obviously took us all the way to orbit about six minutes later. And one again the Gs and how the engine throttled to control the Gs and then straight to cut off, and then just like with Shuttle, you go from three, actually in this case we were more than three Gs, to zero Gs instantaneously, and we knew we made it to orbit.
https://twitter.com/abernnyc/status/1268297704012161031Quote The Falcon 9 booster is getting tucked into bed right now. #SpaceX #Falcon9 #Demo2
The Falcon 9 booster is getting tucked into bed right now. #SpaceX #Falcon9 #Demo2
Quote from: Oersted on 06/03/2020 11:45 am....For all of those reasons.. Save the stage!How deep are the pockets of the Smithsonian and its sponsors? Perhaps they could chip in. ...And get Hopper as well: it deserves a better fate than glorified radar and surveillance video pole.Emphasis mine.Because it flew a single Grasshopper style mission? In case you had not noticed: Starhopper didn't do anything that hadn't already been done by Grasshopper. And the latter is still sitting pretty in Texas instead of in the Smithsonian.
....For all of those reasons.. Save the stage!How deep are the pockets of the Smithsonian and its sponsors? Perhaps they could chip in. ...And get Hopper as well: it deserves a better fate than glorified radar and surveillance video pole.
Quote from: woods170 on 06/03/2020 02:09 pmQuote from: EspenU on 06/03/2020 01:45 pmQuote from: woods170 on 06/03/2020 01:19 pmSo, the NASA worm will be erased and the stage will be refurbished to fly another day.Do you think there is a chance that they will leave the worm in place and only use this booster for NASA cargo missions? That would of course mean that NASA first would have to be ok with using a booster that has landed at sea.NASA don't get to pick the booster that cargo Dragon flies on. However, NASA does have the right to decide which booster Cargo Dragon does NOT fly on.Remember, for both CRS-2 and CCP NASA is buying a service. They are not buying a booster and a spaceship. NASA does however have a stipulation in place that it wants brand new launchers for CCP missions. NASA, so far, has not allowed SpaceX to fly a drone ship landed booster on a CRS mission. This is based on the original CRS contract which also stipulated all-new boosters for each CRS launch. This was later amended to allow land-landed boosters to be re-flown on CRS missions. But not ocean landed boosters. As far as I know that stipulation is also in place for the follow-on CRS-2 contract.Yes, that was my point. SpaceX could just leave the logos in place and then use the booster for NASA CRS-2 missions (if NASA agrees to use barge landed boosters). Do you think that's a realistic option?
SpaceX has been given NASA approval to fly flight-proven Falcon 9 and Crew Dragon vehicles during Commercial Crew flights starting with Post-Certification Mission 2, per a modification to SpaceX's contract with NASA.
Quote from: EspenU on 06/03/2020 02:30 pmQuote from: woods170 on 06/03/2020 02:09 pmQuote from: EspenU on 06/03/2020 01:45 pmQuote from: woods170 on 06/03/2020 01:19 pmSo, the NASA worm will be erased and the stage will be refurbished to fly another day.Do you think there is a chance that they will leave the worm in place and only use this booster for NASA cargo missions? That would of course mean that NASA first would have to be ok with using a booster that has landed at sea.NASA don't get to pick the booster that cargo Dragon flies on. However, NASA does have the right to decide which booster Cargo Dragon does NOT fly on.Remember, for both CRS-2 and CCP NASA is buying a service. They are not buying a booster and a spaceship. NASA does however have a stipulation in place that it wants brand new launchers for CCP missions. NASA, so far, has not allowed SpaceX to fly a drone ship landed booster on a CRS mission. This is based on the original CRS contract which also stipulated all-new boosters for each CRS launch. This was later amended to allow land-landed boosters to be re-flown on CRS missions. But not ocean landed boosters. As far as I know that stipulation is also in place for the follow-on CRS-2 contract.Yes, that was my point. SpaceX could just leave the logos in place and then use the booster for NASA CRS-2 missions (if NASA agrees to use barge landed boosters). Do you think that's a realistic option?Well this means that this booster has a chance of being reused on CC. However the land landing vs barge landing is not addressed! So I'm an outsider guessing. Others herw may now much better.https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1268316718750814209QuoteSpaceX has been given NASA approval to fly flight-proven Falcon 9 and Crew Dragon vehicles during Commercial Crew flights starting with Post-Certification Mission 2, per a modification to SpaceX's contract with NASA. https://t.co/BxHlFqt9sK?amp=1
