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Discussion Thread for Starlink v1.0 Flight 6.

Check the Starlink Index Thread for links to more Starlink information.

NSF Threads for Starlink v1.0 Flight 6: Discussion / Updates

NSF News Articles for Starlink:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=Starlink

Successful launch April 22, 2020 at 1530 EDT (1930 UTC), on Falcon 9 (booster 1051.4) from LC-39A.  ASDS landing was successful.  They did not attempt to catch the fairings in flight, but intended to fish them out of the water.  Targeting deployment orbit of 190x380km.  The first stage rocket booster supporting this mission previously supported DM-1, launch of the RADARSAT Constellation Mission, and the fourth Starlink mission.  The fairing  previously supported launch of the AMOS-17 mission in August 2019.

Payload: A batch of 60 Starlink satellites with Ku-band and Ka-band antennas.

Please use the Starlink Discussion Thread for all general discussion on Starlink.

L2 SpaceX:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=60.0

From the previous mission's Press Kit:
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Each Starlink satellite weights approximately 260 kg and features a compact, flat-panel design that minimizes volume, allowing for a dense launch stack to take full advantage of Falcon 9’s launch capabilities. With four powerful phased array and two parabolic antennas on each satellite ... At end of their life cycle, the satellites will utilize their on-board propulsion system to deorbit over the course of a few months. In the unlikely event their propulsion system becomes inoperable, the satellites will burn up in Earth’s atmosphere within 1-5 years, significantly less than the hundreds or thousands of years required at higher altitudes. Further, Starlink components are designed for full demisability.

Starlink is targeting service in the Northern U.S. and Canada in 2020, rapidly expanding to near global coverage of the populated world by 2021. Additional information on the system can be found at starlink.com.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 2020
« Reply #1 on: 04/01/2020 05:11 pm »
Is there any schedule information on this launch?

SpaceX claimed they want to investigate the Merlin failure on the last flight, maybe they're hung on that?

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 2020
« Reply #2 on: 04/01/2020 05:25 pm »
We don't have a date yet.  Starlink flight dates aren't being released very far ahead of time.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 2020
« Reply #3 on: 04/08/2020 01:37 pm »
From USCG information posted today:

ATLANTIC OCEAN - FLORIDA - CAPE CANAVERAL: EATERN RANGE OP# X1303 FALCON 9 STARLINK V1.0-L6

Eastern Range will be conducting hazardous operations surface to unlimited within portions of Warning Areas W497A, W497B, W137F/G, W138E,
W139E/F, W122 and the following Hazard Areas.

A: From 2838 59.35N 8037 40.62W
TO 2841N 8036W
TO 2902N 8009W
TO 2857N 8005W
TO 2842N 8018W
TO 2833N 8033W
TO 2833 14.53N 8033 57.98W to beginning

B: From 3201N 7645W
TO 3309N 7558W
TO 3331N 7526W
TO 3328N 7449W
TO 3315N 7435W
TO 3246N 7435WTO 3229N 7459W
TO 3150N 7635W to beginning

Hazard periods for primary launch day and backup launch days;

Primary launch day: 16 / 2111Z thru 16 / 2239Z Apr 20. Preferred T-0 is 2131Z
Backup launch day (1): 17 / 2051Z thru 17 / 2219Z Apr 20. Preferred T-0 is 2111Z
Backup launch day (2): 18 / 2031Z thru 18 / 2154Z Apr 20. Preferred T-0 is 2036Z
Backup launch day (3): 19 / 2006Z thru 19 / 2134Z Apr 20. Preferred T-0 is 2011Z
Backup launch day (4): 20 / 1945Z thru 20 / 2113Z Apr 20. Preferred T-0 is 1950Z
Backup launch day (5): 21 / 1925Z thru 21 / 2053Z Apr 20. Preferred T-0 is 1930Z

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 16, 2020
« Reply #4 on: 04/08/2020 02:22 pm »
We don't have a date yet.  Starlink flight dates aren't being released very far ahead of time.

In the shadow of the Merlin 1D failure and the COVID crisis impacting other launches, there is a window here for more Starlink launches.

Time to put some Starlink launches on the schedule.

But maybe preps for DM2 is the focus.

Starship, Vulcan and Ariane 6 have all reached orbit.  New Glenn, well we are waiting!

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 16, 2020
« Reply #6 on: 04/08/2020 02:53 pm »

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 16, 2020
« Reply #7 on: 04/08/2020 02:58 pm »
Why 39A again? Is SLC-40 undergoing some sort of refurbishment? Or is it something else?
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 16, 2020
« Reply #8 on: 04/08/2020 03:03 pm »
Why 39A again? Is SLC-40 undergoing some sort of refurbishment? Or is it something else?

40 had a launch scheduled at the end of March (which ended up being postponed).  It would make sense for this one to be scheduled from the other pad.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 16, 2020
« Reply #9 on: 04/08/2020 03:37 pm »
According to Next Spaceflight, booster 1051.4 is going to be used for this mission.

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/2571
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 16, 2020
« Reply #10 on: 04/08/2020 06:18 pm »
According to Next Spaceflight, booster 1051.4 is going to be used for this mission.

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/2571
I wonder if that booster was originally meant to be used for SAOCOM.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 16, 2020
« Reply #11 on: 04/10/2020 04:43 am »
https://spacenews.com/starlink-mission-scheduled-for-next-week-at-kennedy-space-center/

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45th Space Wing commander Brig. Gen. Schiess said the launch will be carried out with a lean crew and social distancing measures.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 16, 2020
« Reply #12 on: 04/10/2020 06:15 am »
https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1247896041568866305

(Note:  It's 16 April at 17:31 EDT (21:31 UTC).)


Chris G edit:
https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1247898265216888834

USAF explained why Starlink launch continues while the GPS launch is postponed:

https://spacenews.com/starlink-mission-scheduled-for-next-week-at-kennedy-space-center/

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During a call with reporters April 9, Schiess (Brig. Gen. Doug Schiess, commander of the 45th Space Wing that oversees the Florida space coast ranges) had to defend the decision to allow the launch to go forward amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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Schiess said that under the current health emergency, the decision to support a launch is considered on a case-by-case basis. The Starlink launch is less labor intensive than a national security mission like GPS, he said. With a leaner crew it’s easier to implement physical separation at launch facilities, said Schiess.

Another consideration is that the 60-satellite Starlink payload is owned by SpaceX so government personnel are not involved in getting it ready for launch.

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SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 16, 2020
« Reply #13 on: 04/10/2020 07:05 am »
It’s also possible that SpaceX is also wanting to fly this mission soon because NASA would like to see as many F9 flights as possible to verify any fixes(?) or process changes since the M1D shutdown on the last flight - so flying this mission also makes Helps the crew in flight schedule.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 16, 2020
« Reply #14 on: 04/11/2020 03:56 pm »
According to Next Spaceflight, booster 1051.4 is going to be used for this mission.

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/2571
I wonder if that booster was originally meant to be used for SAOCOM.
I doubt it.  SAOCOM was going to fly from SLC 40.  SpaceX would likely have moved the boosters (and their upper stages) to their respective pad hangars a while back.  Swapping would have necessitated extra work to move the boosters between launch sites. 

There's also the question about which upper stage was swapped for the CRS-20 launch.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 16, 2020
« Reply #15 on: 04/11/2020 04:03 pm »
It’s also possible that SpaceX is also wanting to fly this mission soon because NASA would like to see as many F9 flights as possible to verify any fixes(?) or process changes since the M1D shutdown on the last flight - so flying this mission also makes Helps the crew in flight schedule.

I was wondering that too.  Are they going to want to see 39A and other F9 flights before DM2.

I'm just happy to have a launch to look forward too next week. 
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 16, 2020
« Reply #16 on: 04/13/2020 03:29 pm »
I received a NOTMAR cancellation from the NGA for SpaceX's Starlink launch scheduled for Thursday, April 16, so apparently it is being postponed.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 16, 2020
« Reply #17 on: 04/13/2020 03:59 pm »
https://twitter.com/raul74cz/status/1249715981842333696

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Complete map of LHAs for #Starlink v1.0-L6 from LC-39A for Apr 16-21. Direct inject orbit, booster landing and expected fairing recovery location as last Starlink mission. Stage2 deorbit on the first orbit to same Debris Reentry Area in Eastern Pacific. bit.do/LHA11

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 16, 2020
« Reply #18 on: 04/14/2020 07:43 pm »
UPDATE of primary launch day is Apr 23 19:16 UTC, backup launch day Apr 24.

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ATLANTIC OCEAN - FLORIDA - CAPE CANAVERAL: EATERN RANGE OP# X1303 FALCON 9 STARLINK V1.0-L6 (UPDATE April 14, 2020)
Eastern Range will be conducting hazardous operations surface to unlimited within portions of Warning Areas W497A, W497B, W137F/G, W138E,
W139E/F, W122 and the following Hazard Areas.
A: From 2838 59.35N 8037 40.62W
TO 2841N 8036W
TO 2902N 8009W
TO 2857N 8005W
TO 2842N 8018W
TO 2833N 8033W
TO 2833 14.53N 8033 57.98W to beginning
B: From 3201N 7645W
TO 3309N 7558W
TO 3331N 7526W
TO 3328N 7449W
TO 3315N 7435W
TO 3246N 7435WTO 3229N 7459W
TO 3150N 7635W to beginning
Hazard periods for primary launch day and backup launch days;
Primary launch day: 23 / 1856Z thru 23 / 2024Z Apr 20. Preferred T-0 is 1916Z.
Backup launch day: 24 / 1834Z thru 24 / 2002Z Apr 20. Preferred T-0 is 1854Z

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #19 on: 04/14/2020 09:08 pm »
Why are they still doing direct insertions if the previous missions resulted in booster landing failures?
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #20 on: 04/14/2020 09:11 pm »
Why are they still doing direct insertions if the previous missions resulted in booster landing failures?

The last failure wasn't anything to do with direct insertion.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #21 on: 04/14/2020 09:21 pm »
Why are they still doing direct insertions if the previous missions resulted in booster landing failures?

The last failure wasn't anything to do with direct insertion.
if anything, direct insertion reduces risk, if you have the performance margin. Consider the first F9 flight...
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #22 on: 04/14/2020 09:26 pm »
Why are they still doing direct insertions if the previous missions resulted in booster landing failures?

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #23 on: 04/14/2020 10:21 pm »
I don't think there's a correlation between the orbital insertion profile (supposed to be easier on S1 recovery) and the two previous landing failures.  First was due to wrong wind data being entered into the flight profile, the second was due (probably, never heard a definitive statement) to the Merlin failure.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #24 on: 04/14/2020 11:23 pm »
Why are they still doing direct insertions if the previous missions resulted in booster landing failures?
Because none of the failures were caused by the launch profile

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #25 on: 04/15/2020 03:29 am »
Why are they still doing direct insertions if the previous missions resulted in booster landing failures?
Because none of the failures were caused by the launch profile

I understand. It just seemed that way to me after the last mission and I was kinda predicting bad luck on this next one.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #26 on: 04/16/2020 07:22 am »
https://twitter.com/spaceflightnow/status/1250669689514201091

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A Falcon 9 rocket has arrived at launch pad 39A at the Kennedy Space Center as SpaceX prepares for the launch of the seventh batch of Starlink broadband internet satellites.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #27 on: 04/16/2020 10:21 am »
https://twitter.com/spaceflightnow/status/1250696150778294273

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A Falcon 9 rocket is now upright at launch pad 39A as SpaceX prepares for a routine pre-launch test firing of the rocket's nine first stage engines ahead of next week's planned launch.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #29 on: 04/16/2020 03:28 pm »
Why are they still doing direct insertions if the previous missions resulted in booster landing failures?
Because none of the failures were caused by the launch profile

I understand. It just seemed that way to me after the last mission and I was kinda predicting bad luck on this next one.
I doubt SpaceX would be influenced by superstitions such as bad luck
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #30 on: 04/16/2020 10:25 pm »
Why are they still doing direct insertions if the previous missions resulted in booster landing failures?
Because none of the failures were caused by the launch profile

I understand. It just seemed that way to me after the last mission and I was kinda predicting bad luck on this next one.
I doubt SpaceX would be influenced by superstitions such as bad luck

They've had a four-leaf clover on every mission patch from Falcon 1 flight 4 and onwards. That seems to have worked, 99% of missions succeed with the clover compared to 0% without it.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #31 on: 04/17/2020 02:50 pm »
https://twitter.com/ken_kremer/status/1251157022592036868

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10 AM Apr 17 Update: #SpaceX #Falcon9 rocket remains raised for static fire test - timing TBD-  for #Starlink6 launch NET Apr 23

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #32 on: 04/17/2020 03:31 pm »
https://twitter.com/spaceflightnow/status/1251166011753205760

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A test-firing of SpaceX’s next Falcon 9 rocket is expected later today at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida. LIVE UPDATES: spaceflightnow.com/2020/04/16/fal…

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #33 on: 04/17/2020 03:46 pm »
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Vapors are streaming away from SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket on pad 39A in Florida, suggesting fueling is well underway for a static fire test at 12pm EDT (1600 GMT).

The test-firing is a key milestone before a planned Starlink satellite launch next week. spaceflightnow.com/2020/04/16/fal…

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #34 on: 04/17/2020 03:59 pm »
https://twitter.com/spaceflightnow/status/1251178240938516481

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The strongback structure at pda 39A is being retracted into position for engine start. The test-firing of the Falcon 9 rocket’s nine first stage engines is moments away. spaceflightnow.com/2020/04/16/fal…

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #35 on: 04/17/2020 04:01 pm »
https://twitter.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1251178909565104133

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F9/Starlink: Falcon 9 hot fire test at KSC/39A carried out at noon EDT; test appeared normal; will now await word from Space on data review, launch date

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https://twitter.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1251182840483586051

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F9/Starlink: Here are two shots of today’s Falcon 9 hot-fire test at KSC/39A:
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #37 on: 04/17/2020 04:06 pm »
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #38 on: 04/17/2020 04:49 pm »
Confirmation of good test from SpaceX, core 51 being used, reusing fairing from AMOS-17.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1251190725741408257
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : NET April 23, 2020
« Reply #39 on: 04/17/2020 04:53 pm »
twitter.com/spacex/status/1251190726987218944

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The first stage rocket booster supporting this mission previously supported Crew Dragon’s first flight to the @space_station, launch of the RADARSAT Constellation Mission, and the fourth Starlink mission

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1251190731949015040

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The fairing  previously supported launch of the AMOS-17 mission in August 2019
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 23, 2020
« Reply #40 on: 04/18/2020 04:49 pm »
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Launching from historic 39A once again.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 23, 2020
« Reply #41 on: 04/19/2020 10:49 am »
Does anyone have information on the SkySats that were going to be included in this launch? Wikipedia is saying they are on there but I cant find any other confirmation.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 23, 2020
« Reply #42 on: 04/19/2020 10:58 am »
Does anyone have information on the SkySats that were going to be included in this launch? Wikipedia is saying they are on there but I cant find any other confirmation.
There hasn't been any confirmation. It's an assumption based on the fact that those sats were supposed to launch on a Starlink mission in April 2020. But that could have changed since then, so it's possible the Skysats will launch on the next mission, not this one. Or maybe the one after that.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 23, 2020
« Reply #43 on: 04/19/2020 12:57 pm »
Too bad there are no tours, a lot of people could have seen a f9 on the pad over the next 4 days.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 23, 2020
« Reply #44 on: 04/19/2020 02:28 pm »
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The recovery mission has officially begun for the Seventh Starlink mission which is scheduled NET 4/23. It's time to bring a booster back to port. Fair winds and following seas Finn Falgout and OCISLY. #SpaceXFleet #SpaceX

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 23, 2020
« Reply #45 on: 04/19/2020 02:59 pm »
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Departure! Crew ship GO Quest is following OCISLY out of Port Canaveral and heading downrange for the Starlink mission.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 23, 2020
« Reply #46 on: 04/19/2020 03:55 pm »
The weather forecast is here. However, it states the primary launch date is April 22 (19:37 UTC) with April 23 as a backup. So either the launch moved to the left or it's a range mistake.

90% GO (Cumulus Cloud Rule) for April 22 with all other risk criteria low.

60% GO (Liftoff Winds, Cumulus Cloud Rule) for April 23 with moderate risk of unacceptable upper-level wind shear and high risk of unacceptable recovery conditions.

https://www.patrick.af.mil/Portals/14/Weather/L-3%20Forecast%2022%20APR%20Launch.pdf?ver=2020-04-19-104735-040
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 23, 2020
« Reply #47 on: 04/19/2020 03:57 pm »
Does anyone have information on the SkySats that were going to be included in this launch? Wikipedia is saying they are on there but I cant find any other confirmation.
There hasn't been any confirmation. It's an assumption based on the fact that those sats were supposed to launch on a Starlink mission in April 2020. But that could have changed since then, so it's possible the Skysats will launch on the next mission, not this one. Or maybe the one after that.

They're obviously not on this mission, SpaceX has said there are 60 Starlink sats.  They'll need to reduce the number of Starlink sats on rideshare missions.  The flight rate has been a little lower than they projected at the beginning of the year, so the rideshare flights were probably pushed back a little.  Hopefully we'll start seeing them in the next couple months.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 23, 2020
« Reply #48 on: 04/19/2020 04:32 pm »
Weather on Thursday Wednesday looks great, just 10% probability of violation. 40% on Friday Thursday.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 23, 2020
« Reply #49 on: 04/19/2020 04:47 pm »
Weather on Thursday looks great, just 10% probability of violation. 40% on Friday.

You mean weather on Wednesday looks great?  ;)

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #50 on: 04/19/2020 05:03 pm »
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #51 on: 04/19/2020 07:28 pm »
Ben Cooper's website now also gives the launch time of April 22 at 3:37pm EDT, no confirmation from official sources yet.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #52 on: 04/19/2020 10:44 pm »
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Catch time! Ms. Tree and Ms. Chief are underway from Port Canaveral for the 7th Starlink mission.

They haven't had much success recently so we need to wish them good luck!

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #53 on: 04/20/2020 03:39 pm »
New weather forecast. Still 90% GO.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #54 on: 04/20/2020 03:40 pm »
Was there a reason as to why the launch was moved up one day?
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #55 on: 04/20/2020 03:41 pm »
Was there a reason as to why the launch was moved up one day?

Appears to be for better weather.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #56 on: 04/20/2020 04:04 pm »
Was there a reason as to why the launch was moved up one day?

Appears to be for better weather.

Especially in the recovery area.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #57 on: 04/20/2020 04:24 pm »
Weather not great before Wednesday either ...

https://twitter.com/nwsmelbourne/status/1252269591545298950

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Tornado Warning including Titusville FL, Indian River City FL until 12:45 PM EDT

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https://twitter.com/chrisg_nsf/status/1252271962346459136

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #60 on: 04/20/2020 07:14 pm »
Silly but if the schedule holds, SpaceX will launch its 422nd Starlink satellite (including Tintin A/B) on 4/22...

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #61 on: 04/20/2020 08:00 pm »
Silly but if the schedule holds, SpaceX will launch its 422nd Starlink satellite (including Tintin A/B) on 4/22...

As long as it is not sat 420 on 4/20 ...
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #62 on: 04/20/2020 09:17 pm »
Confirmation of the date moving up a day:

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1252344682807353344
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #63 on: 04/20/2020 10:02 pm »
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Recovery fleet position update!

Progress to LZ:
OCISLY/GO Quest:
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Ms. Tree/Ms. Chief:
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #64 on: 04/20/2020 10:42 pm »
There are reasons that are *higher* on the list for 420 to be of any importance

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #65 on: 04/20/2020 10:53 pm »
Confirmation of the date moving up a day:

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1252344682807353344

Excellent, I love the extremely rare event of a rocket moving left on the schedule.

Hopefully there is another 1 or 2 Starlink launches before the DM2 mission in 5 weeks.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #66 on: 04/21/2020 12:08 am »
What‘s the matter with 4/20? I don‘t assume everyone is celebrating Hitler‘s birthday.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture)

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #67 on: 04/21/2020 12:10 am »
Back on topic please.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #68 on: 04/21/2020 11:31 am »
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Ms. Tree and Ms. Chief have arrived at the fairing recovery zone for this week's Starlink mission! They are ~695km downrange.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #69 on: 04/21/2020 02:43 pm »
L-1 launch weather forecast still 90% GO

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #70 on: 04/21/2020 03:30 pm »
Have we heard anything about the sea states in the recovery areas?
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #71 on: 04/21/2020 04:05 pm »
According to the L-1 weather forecast, recovery conditions are predicted to be low risk.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #72 on: 04/21/2020 04:42 pm »
According to the L-1 weather forecast, recovery conditions are predicted to be low risk.

Thanks for aiming me back to the forecast.  For some reason (I feel like an idiot) I saw the line that there wasn't a probability associated with ULW, solar activity, or recovery conditions, and came to the conclusion that there wasn't anything left on the page.

Won't make that mistake again!

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020
« Reply #77 on: 04/22/2020 07:57 am »
Our launch preview.

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2020/04/falcon-9-us-leader-starlink/ - by Chris Gebhardt and Danny Lentz.

twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1252675265844690944

Someone else likes the article:

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Any prospect of seeing the satellites over the UK after launch?

If so, I'm guessing between 10 and 30 mins later?
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According to the simulations I've seen (and also my own simple ones), the second stage and the satellites should pass more or less over London a few minutes after the separation, coming from the west/northwest. I am also pretty sure that's well before entering the Earth shadow.

However, I have no idea how bright this is going to be, I don't recall seeing any videos of Starlink sightings just after the separation.
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According to the simulations I've seen (and also my own simple ones), the second stage and the satellites should pass more or less over London a few minutes after the separation, coming from the west/northwest. I am also pretty sure that's well before entering the Earth shadow.

However, I have no idea how bright this is going to be, I don't recall seeing any videos of Starlink sightings just after the separation.

The satellites will probably have not deployed their solar panels at that point so they might not be very bright.

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It's 11:45 CDT right now, and YouTube is saying 12:40pm CDT.  For a launch that's happening at 2:30pm CDT?

That's quite early for a webcast to start.

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It's not the first time when the webcast on YouTube is showing a strange start time. On Twitter they stated that the webcast will be available around 10 minutes before the launch and I think we can safely assume that's still the plan.

EDIT: Not Twitter, but their website, sorry. But it's still there: https://www.spacex.com/webcast
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I didn't see a logo on the fairing in the pictures posted in the update thread from the remote setup. Did I miss it or is this common for Starlink launches?

Common to not have logo.

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Common to not have logo.

I assumed they didn't want to add the expense, but more importantly the charred logo may impact the ability and cost to reuse the fairings.
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It's not the first time when the webcast on YouTube is showing a strange start time. On Twitter they stated that the webcast will be available around 10 minutes before the launch and I think we can safely assume that's still the plan.

EDIT: Not Twitter, but their website, sorry. But it's still there: https://www.spacex.com/webcast

Yes, it's still there but it now says 3:30 PM EDT.
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They just mentioned excess alcohol in the engine as the cause of the failure last flight. Had that been announced before, or is that new information (to us) today>

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Did the presenter just explain that the engine issue on the last flight was due to isopropyl alcohol (cleaning fluid)?

We did not know this before!

Or did I misunderstand?

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Yes. Elon Musk tweeted it out this morning, but there are really no other details.

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They just mentioned excess alcohol in the engine as the cause of the failure last flight. Had that been announced before, or is that new information (to us) today>

Elon posted it on twitter this morning, that is the earliest we have heard about this. 

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They said that they wouldn't try to catch the fairings, but rather fish them out of the water. I didn't catch why, did anyone else?

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Updating software.

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It would be nice to have a longer camera view from inside of the LOX tank after SECO.  Looks like a really interesting pattern of movement when the acceleration stops.

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 A 4 engine entry burn?  That's new isn't it?

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A 4 engine entry burn?  That's new isn't it?
3 on first stage, 1 on second stage.

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A 4 engine entry burn?  That's new isn't it?

She was including the upper stage engine in that count "4 burning at once".

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Landing, hurrah!

Bring on flight number 5!

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Updating software.

That will be interesting to see the results.  The fairing recovery ships will hopefully tighten up that process.

Congratulations SpaceX on the return to flight (of sorts) it looked flawless.

I love that we are seeing reused first stages and fairings flying now. 

Starlink going active for customers and full reuse of rockets doesn't seem too far away now.

Bring on Starlink 8!
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Congratulations to SpaceX for the launch of Starlink L6!

Here's the droneship and fairing capture ship I missed capturing during the webcast.
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Just watched the stack flying over the Netherlands from Hilversum!

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Starlink stage just overflew UK couple minutes back .

Great view.

Going back outside now look for previous Starlink sat train that should cross just below Ursa Major ( the Plough) at 9 pmish UK time (2000-ish GMT)

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Where's this camera located? Stage 2 tank?  There are a couple of frames in today's launch video.  Looks like something you would see as video channels were switched.
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Where's this camera located? Stage 2 tank?

Yes.

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Where's this camera located? Stage 2 tank?  There are a couple of frames in today's launch video.  Looks like something you would see as video channels were switched.

So cool! Truly amazing.

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Where's this camera located? Stage 2 tank?

Yes.

Stage 2 LOX tank to be specific. That black thing on the side is one of the bottles that holds helium for pressurization as LOX is depleted
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Where's this camera located? Stage 2 tank?  There are a couple of frames in today's launch video.  Looks like something you would see as video channels were switched.

So cool! Truly amazing.
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Any word on fairing catching?
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Any word on fairing catching?

We know they both splashed down, just not how softly, might not know till they're in port.

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Sorry it is hard to see, but here are the satellites/upperstage flying over Cambridgeshire

I've enhanced the image so as to see the trail.
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Catching up a bit looks like COVID fever back the past few days again.. :( Thanks for the coverage. Did they upgrade the camera on the first stage it looked so good or was it just clean and clear?
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Catching up a bit looks like COVID fever back the past few days again.. :( Thanks for the coverage. Did they upgrade the camera on the first stage it looked so good or was it just clean and clear?

I think it was the same camera as always; just didn't get dirty.
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Where's this camera located? Stage 2 tank?

Yes.

Stage 2 LOX tank to be specific. That black thing on the side is one of the bottles that holds helium for pressurization as LOX is depleted
A nearly empty LOX tank too, which is what a launch provider wants to see at the end of the burn.  Still a bit of residual LOX there though.

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A nearly empty LOX tank too, which is what a launch provider wants to see at the end of the burn.  Still a bit of residual LOX there though.

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Do Starlink 2nd stages on the current profile perform a deorbit burn or are they allowed to naturally decay? I imagine with the low perigee it would only take an orbit or two but the accuracy of the rentry area would be reduced.

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Do Starlink 2nd stages on the current profile perform a deorbit burn or are they allowed to naturally decay? I imagine with the low perigee it would only take an orbit or two but the accuracy of the rentry area would be reduced.

AIUI 2nd stage does not deorbit.  How long it stays in orbit IDK.
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Do Starlink 2nd stages on the current profile perform a deorbit burn or are they allowed to naturally decay? I imagine with the low perigee it would only take an orbit or two but the accuracy of the rentry area would be reduced.

AIUI 2nd stage does not deorbit.  How long it stays in orbit IDK.
Post earlier in this thread detailed a Stage 2 reentry zone, supposedly during first orbit, which would I think require some type of retro delta-v, maybe from RCS and/or blowdown if not a restart. 
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A nearly empty LOX tank too, which is what a launch provider wants to see at the end of the burn.  Still a bit of residual LOX there though.

 - Ed Kyle

Do Starlink 2nd stages on the current profile perform a deorbit burn or are they allowed to naturally decay? I imagine with the low perigee it would only take an orbit or two but the accuracy of the rentry area would be reduced.

It has to do a small Dv change to de-orbit in a specific area as if it only took an orbit or two...all the starlink sats would renter as it takes a few orbits to spread out enough to deploy the solar panels without running into each other.

I think Ed is on the money.  RCS or blowdown.

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Where's this camera located? ...
They used to show a lot more LOX tank video.  Below is a clip from the January 2015 launch of CRS-5, showing ten seconds of the booster's LOX tank around MECO and a couple minutes of the second stage LOX tank, with views during the last few minutes of flight, then during and after SECO.  So cool!  I'd pay movie theater prices to see a good quality, full-flight-duration views of the LOX tanks.

Do we know why they rarely show it anymore?  Are there there ITAR or IP protection concerns?  They way they rapidly switched through it on this flight (13 frames here, 14 frames there, then 7 more there) left me wondering if it was shown only accidentally.


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Catching up a bit looks like COVID fever back the past few days again.. :( Thanks for the coverage. Did they upgrade the camera on the first stage it looked so good or was it just clean and clear?

I think it was the same camera as always; just didn't get dirty.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 7 (v1.0 L6) : April 22, 2020 : Updates
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Wow, they must be using a different coating, those things look hardly used. 
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OCISLY is about halfway through the journey home. The droneship and accompanying support ships have been slowly progressing through very rough seas.

Saturday is now not-possible and I'm hearing that they are tentatively targeting arrival on Sunday morning - weather permitting.

I figured that the trip back was going to be slow and risky, considering they pulled the launch forward a day, not only for launch criteria but landing sea states as well.  If they got the landing ahead of bad weather, it makes sense they'd have to punch back through it.
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Is it just me or did that landing look a bit rough?  Looked like they crushed the core in the leg facing away from the camera maybe?  ???
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Looked fine to me.  Real wide angle lens distort so much I don't think I could tell one way or the other on the state of the legs on the back side of the booster.  Video cut did give a few seconds of gut-clenching, but that's just based on the issues they've had on the past few drone ship landings.

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Catching up a bit looks like COVID fever back the past few days again.. :( Thanks for the coverage. Did they upgrade the camera on the first stage it looked so good or was it just clean and clear?

 Engine failure on the last launch meant that one of the engines was spitting out some unburned RP-1 and that glopped up the camera

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Obviously could have non-visible damage, but it appears that letting them land in the ocean then fishing them out is a viable plan for recovery.
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Obviously could have non-visible damage, but it appears that letting them land in the ocean then fishing them out is a viable plan for recovery.

Landing them in the nets has virtually zero extra cost and some 50% of their missions are Starlink, so it's still likely cheaper to try for a proper landing and sometimes fail than to convince customers to use watered fairings.
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Moving from the Update thread (sorry about that!)


Landing them in the nets has virtually zero extra cost and some 50% of their missions are Starlink, so it's still likely cheaper to try for a proper landing and sometimes fail than to convince customers to use watered fairings.

Except their success rates for the nets isn't very good.  And if you try the net and fail, that one is a write-off for sure.
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Is it just me or did that landing look a bit rough?  Looked like they crushed the core in the leg facing away from the camera maybe?  ???

I didn't think so, but you caught it!
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so,who wins the landing bingo?
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so,who wins the landing bingo?

I hope it didn't move during the ocean cruise  :-\

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This, at last, was the 50th successfully recovered booster, by which I mean landed and returned to Port Canaveral intact.

If I've counted right, these were performed by 27 individual boosters.  Three of those landed and did not fly again.  The 24 others flew at least twice.  Five currently remain.

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Photographer Szabolcs Nagy (@metrolinaszabi, /u/metrolinaszabi) found a mystery object trailing the 60 Starlink satellites minutes after its deployment.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/metrolinaszabi

Reddit thread: An object closely following the double chain of Starlink satellites

Full article describing the phenomena and a lot more photos: SPACEX STARLINK 7 SATELLITES 22 MINUTES AFTER LAUNCH – CLOSE UP PHOTO

Note they claim to have identified all 60 satellites plus second stage and 4 tension rods, this object is not any of these.

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Photographer Szabolcs Nagy (@metrolinaszabi, /u/metrolinaszabi) found a mystery object trailing the 60 Starlink satellites minutes after its deployment.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/metrolinaszabi

Reddit thread: An object closely following the double chain of Starlink satellites

Full article describing the phenomena and a lot more photos: SPACEX STARLINK 7 SATELLITES 22 MINUTES AFTER LAUNCH – CLOSE UP PHOTO

Note they claim to have identified all 60 satellites plus second stage and 4 tension rods, this object is not any of these.

On that photo, I count 29 white dots in the left string, and 30 white dots in the right - that might simply be a sat that recontacted with another at deploymnet time and then drifted away from the rest of the swarm. Also has the reflective properties of one.

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Photographer Szabolcs Nagy (@metrolinaszabi, /u/metrolinaszabi) found a mystery object trailing the 60 Starlink satellites minutes after its deployment.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/metrolinaszabi

Reddit thread: An object closely following the double chain of Starlink satellites

Full article describing the phenomena and a lot more photos: SPACEX STARLINK 7 SATELLITES 22 MINUTES AFTER LAUNCH – CLOSE UP PHOTO

Note they claim to have identified all 60 satellites plus second stage and 4 tension rods, this object is not any of these.

On that photo, I count 29 white dots in the left string, and 30 white dots in the right - that might simply be a sat that recontacted with another at deploymnet time and then drifted away from the rest of the swarm. Also has the reflective properties of one.

Right, with optical distortion and the satellites so close to each other, I don't see how they can reliably claim that they accounted for 60 satellites in the main clump. Occams razor suggests that the mystery object is a satellite that is more separated from the rest.

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