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Experimental spaceplane - CZ-2F - Jiuquan LC43/91 - Sept. 4 2020 (~07:30 UTC)
by
tangdou8
on 01 Mar, 2020 03:08
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本次长二F任务是继“神舟11号”之后,时隔3年首次执行载人航天之外的重大科研实验任务,是保证后续载人航天工程顺利实施的基础,对未来空天技术的发展非常重要
This CZ-2F mission is the first major scientific research and experimental mission other than manned spaceflight after three years after the "Shenzhou 11". It is the basis for the successful implementation of subsequent manned spaceflight projects and is a key to future aerospace technology.
possible launch date: March/April
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#1
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 01 Mar, 2020 06:36
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Original official source (seems to have been deleted)Discussions (in Chinese)There was a brief rumor of such a strange launch that surfaced late last year, but no-one was able to find evidence of it and discussions died down....until this article cropped up, that is.
Even back in late last year the rumors were pointing towards something like a spaceplane.....although whether it is like the X-37, IXV, Space Rider or something else (e.g. whether the rocket will have fairings) is up for debate. It is also not known if this is related to the Shenlong efforts a few years ago. But this paragraph (especially the part on "important for future HSF and aerospace developments") really seems to hint on a winged/lifting body spacecraft.
And people are wondering if it will be flown around the Long March 5B launch (April-May?) as the recent news on tracking ship going all the way to the Atlantic seems to be also useful for such a mission.
Interesting, very interesting indeed......
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#2
by
Liss
on 01 Mar, 2020 08:02
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Feng Yaohui mentioned in the text is the chief designer for hypergolic rocket engines in the 11th institute, so the source of the news is the CZ-2F rocket team.
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#3
by
GELORD
on 02 Mar, 2020 19:36
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Rocket CZ-2F is ready to launch
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#4
by
Steven Pietrobon
on 03 Mar, 2020 03:27
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OCR
http://www.i2ocr.com/free-online-chinese-traditional-ocr本次長二F任務是繼“"神髓11愧“之后,時隔3年首次執行載人航天之外的重大科研實驗任務,是保證後續載人航天工程順利實施的基礎,對末來空天技術的發展非常重要,保成功的重要性不言而喻。 “通過深入優化試驗流程、合並型呈試驗山位,試驗隊員身兼數職,嚴格遵守發射場疫情防控條例,做到疫情防控和型號任務兩不誤。出發,確保試嗲、發射型號任務後墻不倒!洶光輝對完成伍字信心滿滿。
Bing Translation. I think the payload name is 神髓11愧 or Shensui 11 Kui.
This long second F mission is after the "God 11" after the first time in three years to carry out a major scientific research and experimental mission outside of manned spaceflight, is to ensure the smooth implementation of the follow-up manned space engineering, the development of the last space technology is very important, the importance of success is self-evident. "By in-depth optimisation of the test process, the combined type of test mountain, test team members in a number of jobs, strictly abide by the launch site outbreak prevention and control regulations, so that the epidemic prevention and control and model tasks are not wrong." Departure, to ensure that the test, launch model mission after the wall does not fall!
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#5
by
Liss
on 03 Mar, 2020 03:52
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Bing Translation. I think the payload name is 神髓11愧 or Shensui 11 Kui.
I think the correct translation was provided by the topic starter in the first posting. No Shensui, just "after Shenzhou 11".
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#6
by
starbase
on 04 Mar, 2020 11:18
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At the Jiuquan cosmodrome in northwestern China, preparations are underway for the launch of the Long March 2F rocket. Perhaps a prototype of a reusable spacecraft, an analogue of the Boeing X-37(OTV) or Space Rider, will be tested.
https://twitter.com/Smit_Gaski/status/1235143683827212288
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#7
by
russianhalo117
on 06 Mar, 2020 02:37
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At the Jiuquan cosmodrome in northwestern China, preparations are underway for the launch of the Long March 2F rocket. Perhaps a prototype of a reusable spacecraft, an analogue of the Boeing X-37(OTV) or Space Rider, will be tested.
https://twitter.com/Smit_Gaski/status/1235143683827212288
CZ-2F/T ska CZ-2F/H might be version shown, G version I don't think is being used.
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#8
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 05 Apr, 2020 04:25
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#9
by
Satori
on 06 Apr, 2020 08:26
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Train with launcher departed factory on February 29 and arrived to the train station before being transfered to the dedicated rail line to Jiuquan on March 2.
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#10
by
zubenelgenubi
on 23 Apr, 2020 19:22
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Seeking our experts' opinions:
Might this launch be performed without any published NOTAMs or any other official comment preceding launch?
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#11
by
Satori
on 24 Apr, 2020 12:36
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Seeking our experts' opinions:
Might this launch be performed without any published NOTAMs or any other official comment preceding launch?
We soon may see a CZ-2F at the launch pad...
Images from 9ifly space forum.
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#12
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 27 Apr, 2020 11:53
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#13
by
Liss
on 27 Apr, 2020 22:55
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twitter.com/aj_fi/status/1254735842993737728
China may be gearing up to launch a prototype space plane. Preparations for a mystery mission are apparently underway at Jiuquan, possibly involving a CZ-2F rocket. These are RUMOURS. But CASC earlier stated it aims to test a reusable space plane. Check this out mission patch.
https://twitter.com/aj_fi/status/1254736263799812097
This is the insignia of the so called Zero Commander (0号指挥) who commands each space launch.
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#14
by
Satori
on 28 Apr, 2020 00:11
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Igor, what do you think about this mission?
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#15
by
Steven Pietrobon
on 28 Apr, 2020 05:14
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Here's the patch. Looks like an F in front of a rocket. The circular emblem looks like it has a satellite going around the Earth. The diagonal might be the equator.
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#16
by
Satori
on 07 May, 2020 17:51
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No news about this launch. Possibly delayed.
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#17
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 08 May, 2020 01:52
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No news about this launch. Possibly delayed.
The movement of the Yuan Wang 7 tracking ship may be useful for determining that - I think it's too early to say. The ship sailed halfway through the world since February 27 to the eastern coast of South America via the Cape of Good Hope and was parked at Motevideo, Uruguay for about 10 days since late April, but has moved out to the north-east 2 days ago and its tracking data shows it's due at Shanghai on June 5.
People all thinks that not only it will be responsible for crucial tracking of today's return of the new Chinese crew spacecraft, it may also track the "thingy" of this thread when it returns (an IXV-like one orbit mission can't be ruled out), hence these two missions may be arranged as close as possible. It will be interesting to see if the ship speeds off towards Africa past today or not, if not we might have a launch here soon...
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#18
by
limen4
on 08 May, 2020 20:08
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This concrete strip (2km length, 50m width) is visible about 20km NE of the JSLC airport. Could this be a runway for the spaceplane?
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#19
by
Asteroza
on 08 May, 2020 23:11
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This concrete strip (2km length, 50m width) is visible about 20km NE of the JSLC airport. Could this be a runway for the spaceplane?
Looks more like a RCS testing facility, judging by the local terrain looking like a lakebed which provides an easy way to make a long and very flat concrete strip, and the pit on the right. Lockheed has a famous one called the Helendale RCS range, though that had a special traversible pylon facility that raises and lowers objects to be tested from a pit with overhead doors. This just looks like an open pit with a pad.
