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Offline Steven Pietrobon

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Chris has wrapped up. Das going over scrub.
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I didn't see any activity from the rain birds, even at t0:00

Yes, they should start at t-0:07. Could the lack of suppression water affect sensor readings for expected thrust?

Edit: on 39a they aren't fully on until t+0:03 and hard to see prior to that as seen in IFA launch
« Last Edit: 03/15/2020 12:52 pm by FlattestEarth »

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Recovery weather looks good. 1.5 metre waves and minimal winds and minimal gusts at altitudes below 20,000ft. Very good for the fairings. Looking like perfect launch, just got to hope it isn't jinxed and it fails on launch or landing or a parachute fails on the fairing.

Called it, you can never have a perfect launch (and landing) weather and conditions in spaceflight.

Let's hope it's a sensor issue and can recycle tomorrow.
« Last Edit: 03/15/2020 12:41 pm by AndrewRG10 »

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Has there been an abort after engine start since F9-7 in 2013?

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The water deluge system never activated. I wonder if that had anything to do with it?

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Has there been an abort after engine start since F9-7 in 2013?
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I didn't see any activity from the rain birds, even at t0:00

Yes, they should start at t-0:07. Could the lack of suppression water affect sensor readings for expected thrust?

Edit: on 39a they aren't fully on until t+0:03 and hard to see prior to that as seen in IFA launch

In past launches, they have been activating and leaking water straight down from T-10 seconds on.

Well visible in Es'hail-2
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PhTbzc-BqKs&t=893

Koreasat 5A:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CNRTNxZSPhE&t=831

but not spraying full bore until T+2 seconds

Edit: How do I force the "time" t=xxx in links to youtube? it somehow disappears for the links
« Last Edit: 03/15/2020 02:42 pm by CorvusCorax »

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Use & instead of ? for additional parameters, so &t=893.
? is the start of the parameters, & adds additional ones.

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According to launch net audio, launch on the 15 of March was aborted just before liftoff due to a "high engine power" reading from (at least) one of the engines. Launch has been scrubbed until further notice.

Bummer, they would have gotten there sooner.
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Use & instead of ? for additional parameters, so &t=893.
? is the start of the parameters, & adds additional ones.
I changed that, with the effect the forum software turned it into previews - without using the time offset.

anyway, here are screenshots of the aborted launch
at T-7 seconds - no water
at T-3 seconds - occluded due to fog
at T+2 seconds - there is water but no full spray


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Does anyone have insight into whether an abort like this would trigger the LAS on a Crew Dragon flight?

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Does anyone have insight into whether an abort like this would trigger the LAS on a Crew Dragon flight?

I would hope not.  The vehicle didn't appear to enter an unsafe condition.

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That's the first thing I noticed at T-5 seconds that the water deluge system had not started.
I hope nothing was damaged by the acoustic vibration.

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That's the first thing I noticed at T-5 seconds that the water deluge system had not started.
I hope nothing was damaged by the acoustic vibration.

The primary purpose of the water spray is post-liftoff, to dampen acoustics reflected off the ground and launch mount back toward the vehicle.

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I noticed that landing legs are white. Is it frost from cooling or what?

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I noticed that landing legs are white. Is it frost from cooling or what?

No.


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Use & instead of ? for additional parameters, so &t=893.
? is the start of the parameters, & adds additional ones.

I changed that, with the effect the forum software turned it into previews - without using the time offset.

Delete the leading "www." to suppress NSF's auto-embed.

Besides the "&" delimiter, the "#" character also works, and make more sense to old-school HTML veterans.

Finally, note that timestamp formats like "t=893" and "t=14m53s" mean the same thing to Youtube. 
« Last Edit: 03/15/2020 02:41 pm by ChrisC »
PSA #1:  Suppress forum auto-embed of Youtube videos by deleting leading 'www.' (four characters) in YT URL; useful when linking text to YT, or just to avoid bloat.
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Looks like the next launch attempt will be on March 18 at 12:21 UTC.
Weather is 80% GO.
« Last Edit: 03/15/2020 03:44 pm by Mammutti »

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Great work with the abort SpaceX. Thanks for the excellent coverage NSF! :)
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