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Discussion thread for the Starlink v1.0 fifth launch.

Check the Starlink Index Thread for links to more Starlink information.

NSF Threads for Starlink v1.0 Flight 5: Discussion / Updates

NSF News Articles for Starlink:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=Starlink

Successful launch March 18, 2020 at 8:16:39am EDT (12:16 UTC), on Falcon 9 (booster 1048.5) from KSC LC-39A.  An engine failed near the end of the first stage burn.  ASDS landing was unsuccessful.  Both fairing halves landed in the water and were recovered.  Targeting deployment orbit of 190x380km.

Payload: A batch of 60 Starlink satellites with Ku-band and Ka-band antennas.

Please use the Starlink Discussion Thread for all general discussion on Starlink.

L2 SpaceX:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=60.0

From the Press Kit:
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Falcon 9’s first stage supported the Iridum-7 NEXT mission in July 2018, the SAOCOM 1A mission in October 2018, the Nusantara Satu mission in February 2019, and the second launch of Starlink in November 2019. Following stage separation, SpaceX will land Falcon 9’s first stage on the “Of Course I Still Love You” droneship, which will be stationed in the Atlantic Ocean. Falcon 9’s fairing previously supported the first launch of Starlink in May 2019. Approximately 45 minutes after liftoff, SpaceX’s fairing recovery vessels, “Ms. Tree” and “Ms. Chief,” will attempt to recover the two fairing halves.

The Starlink satellites will deploy in an elliptical orbit approximately 15 minutes after liftoff. Prior to orbit raise, SpaceX engineers will conduct data reviews to ensure all Starlink satellites are operating as intended. Once the checkouts are complete, the satellites will then use their onboard ion thrusters to move into their intended orbits and operational altitude of 550 km.
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Each Starlink satellite weights approximately 260 kg and features a compact, flat-panel design that minimizes volume, allowing for a dense launch stack to take full advantage of Falcon 9’s launch capabilities. With four powerful phased array and two parabolic antennas on each satellite ... At end of their life cycle, the satellites will utilize their on-board propulsion system to deorbit over the course of a few months. In the unlikely event their propulsion system becomes inoperable, the satellites will burn up in Earth’s atmosphere within 1-5 years, significantly less than the hundreds or thousands of years required at higher altitudes. Further, Starlink components are designed for full demisability.

Starlink is targeting service in the Northern U.S. and Canada in 2020, rapidly expanding to near global coverage of the populated world by 2021. Additional information on the system can be found at starlink.com.



March 15 Attempt Webcast:



March 18 Webcast:

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https://twitter.com/tgmetsfan98/status/1223431386771664902

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SpaceX has opened media accreditation for the sixth Starlink mission, scheduled for no earlier than March. Different from previous Starlink missions, this one will launch from LC-39A at the Kennedy Space Center.

https://twitter.com/tgmetsfan98/status/1223434245630234624

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Yes. This would be also known as Starlink v1.0 L5.

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Cross-post; my bold:
http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html
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FALCON 9

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket from Cape Canaveral will launch another batch of 60 Starlink satellites from pad 40 on mid-February TBA, in the daytime. The launch window for Starlink missions is instantaneous and the launch time gets 21.5 minutes earlier each day. Other upcoming launches include: A Falcon 9 is scheduled to launch the next Dragon resupply mission to the ISS from pad 40 on March 2 at the earliest, at 1:45am EST. The launch window is instantaneous. The launch time gets 22-26 minutes earlier each day. And another Falcon 9 will launch another Starlink mission from pad 39A on early March TBD.
The use of LC-39A is interesting.  There would need to be some interruption of the complex improvements for Starship.  And, apparently, this launch will not interfere with preparations for the upcoming DM-2 launch.
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Any word on a booster for this flight? Eric Berger says it's expected to be the 5th flight of a booster.

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On its Starlink-5 mission next month, SpaceX is expected to launch a Falcon 9 rocket for the fifth time. It is working to continue to reduce the amount of hours and work to refurbish a first stage between uses.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/02/spacex-making-rocket-landings-mundane-with-50th-attempt-monday/

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Any word on a booster for this flight? Eric Berger says it's expected to be the 5th flight of a booster.

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On its Starlink-5 mission next month, SpaceX is expected to launch a Falcon 9 rocket for the fifth time. It is working to continue to reduce the amount of hours and work to refurbish a first stage between uses.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/02/spacex-making-rocket-landings-mundane-with-50th-attempt-monday/

Well there's only two boosters that have successfully landed after flight 4 so we can guess one of those. I'd say B1048.5 just because it's been longer since it last flew. B1049.5 would be a turnaround record.

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Targeting deployment orbit of 280km.

They said they will deploy the satellites into an elliptical orbit (assuming 212 x 386 km) going forward.

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Targeting deployment orbit of 280km.

They said they will deploy the satellites into an elliptical orbit (assuming 212 x 386 km) going forward.

I imagine that's subject to change if they find that orbital target was partly responsible for the failed booster recovery.
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Targeting deployment orbit of 280km.

They said they will deploy the satellites into an elliptical orbit (assuming 212 x 386 km) going forward.

It would be interesting to know what they gained by going from a two burn injection into a circular orbit to a single burn into an elliptical one.
Under the rule of small numbers, the semi-major axis of a 212 x 386 km altitude orbit is the same as a circular one at 299 km.
The 20 km increase over the 280 km of the previous Starlink launches is equivalent to how many weeks of orbit raising?
But they can't do continuous orbit raising, as eventually the satellites have to thrust only around apogee to circularize the orbits.
A quick estimate says the integrated atmospheric drag will be ~2.5 times greater.
(This should show up in a shorter orbital life for the deployment rods.)
If they had just pushed the apogee the deployment rods, and any dead-on-deployment satellites would have longer orbital lifetimes.
People better than I at orbital mechanics (like using real modeling tools) may have more insight.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Targeting deployment orbit of 280km.

They said they will deploy the satellites into an elliptical orbit (assuming 212 x 386 km) going forward.

It would be interesting to know what they gained by going from a two burn injection into a circular orbit to a single burn into an elliptical one.
Under the rule of small numbers, the semi-major axis of a 212 x 386 km altitude orbit is the same as a circular one at 299 km.
The 20 km increase over the 280 km of the previous Starlink launches is equivalent to how many weeks of orbit raising?
But they can't do continuous orbit raising, as eventually the satellites have to thrust only around apogee to circularize the orbits.
A quick estimate says the integrated atmospheric drag will be ~2.5 times greater.
(This should show up in a shorter orbital life for the deployment rods.)
If they had just pushed the apogee the deployment rods, and any dead-on-deployment satellites would have longer orbital lifetimes.
People better than I at orbital mechanics (like using real modeling tools) may have more insight.

For one, the low perigee would be a feature if any of the satellites are DOA, leading to quicker deorbit and burnup.

For two, AIUI the new launch profile was easier on the booster, but I'm reading that is arguable.

My own question, does the more elliptical orbit precess faster, getting the sats into their target planes quicker?

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Targeting deployment orbit of 280km.

They said they will deploy the satellites into an elliptical orbit (assuming 212 x 386 km) going forward.

It would be interesting to know what they gained by going from a two burn injection into a circular orbit to a single burn into an elliptical one.
Under the rule of small numbers, the semi-major axis of a 212 x 386 km altitude orbit is the same as a circular one at 299 km.
The 20 km increase over the 280 km of the previous Starlink launches is equivalent to how many weeks of orbit raising?
But they can't do continuous orbit raising, as eventually the satellites have to thrust only around apogee to circularize the orbits.
A quick estimate says the integrated atmospheric drag will be ~2.5 times greater.
(This should show up in a shorter orbital life for the deployment rods.)
If they had just pushed the apogee the deployment rods, and any dead-on-deployment satellites would have longer orbital lifetimes.
People better than I at orbital mechanics (like using real modeling tools) may have more insight.

I vaguely remember from my class of Orbital mechanics that two-burn insertion is better (deltaV-wise) almost for all LEOs - EXCEPT orbits that are really low. The attached figure from NASA LSP calculator illustrates this effect.
AIUI, here the performance for Atlas was calculated for two insertion profiles:
the LEFT part (target orbit below 500 km) represents SINGLE-burn injection;
the RIGHT part - TWO-burn injection (with circularization burn in apogee).
extrapolating right part to the left we can see that single burn profile does have a small advantage in PL mass - but only in case of really low orbit.

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http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html

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Falcon 9 will launch the sixth 60-satellite Starlink mission from pad 39A on March 4 earliest.

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Ben Cooper has changed this to TBD:

http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html

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Falcon 9 / Mar. TBD @ TBA EST (pad 39A): Check back closer to launch for the launch time,
and for information on KSC Visitor Complex tickets and other locations.

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And now Ben Cooper has changed it to March 11, 10:40am EDT :)

http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html
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And a Falcon 9 will launch the sixth 60-satellite Starlink mission from pad 39A on March 11 at 10:40am EDT.
GO for launch, GO for age of reflight

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New launch date:

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Falcon 9 will launch the sixth 60-satellite Starlink batch from pad 39A on March 14 at 9:35am EDT.

http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html

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https://twitter.com/nasa_nerd/status/1235214448698236929

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Two dates are held on the Eastern Range for the next #Starlink V-1 L-5, #SpaceX Falcon 9 launch. The launch is targetted for March 14th with an approx T-0 of 9:36am EDT with a backup update of March 15th at 9:14am EDT.

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New launch date:

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Falcon 9 will launch the sixth 60-satellite Starlink batch from pad 39A on March 14 at 9:35am EDT.


Interesting that in the calendar
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=calendar;year=2020;month=3

nobody updated the change still.

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New launch date:

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Falcon 9 will launch the sixth 60-satellite Starlink batch from pad 39A on March 14 at 9:35am EDT.

Interesting that in the calendar
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=calendar;year=2020;month=3

nobody updated the change still.

There’s a calendar? :o
I rely on the Manifest thread.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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The next 60 Starlink satellites launch March 15, Jonathan Hofeller, vice president of Starlink commercial sales at SpaceX said here
https://spacenews.com/musk-were-not-spinning-off-starlink/

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The next 60 Starlink satellites launch March 15, Jonathan Hofeller, vice president of Starlink commercial sales at SpaceX said here
https://spacenews.com/musk-were-not-spinning-off-starlink/

I don't see this date confirmed elsewhere. I wonder if it may be just a misunderstanding. Caleb Henry, the author of the SN article, originally reported "end of the week":

https://twitter.com/CHenry_SN/status/1237013319896240134

Seems like he took it to mean Sunday, March 15, but I feel like it could have meant Saturday just as easily.

Unless he spoke to Hofeller after the panel where he got a more precise date, of course.

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