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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #540 on: 02/27/2022 09:45 am »
Starlink sent to Ukraine.

https://starlink.sx/ shows that there're ground stations (click the yellow dots on the map) in Lithuania, Poland and Turkey that can cover parts of Ukraine.
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« Reply #541 on: 02/27/2022 11:57 pm »
https://starlink.sx/ shows that there're ground stations (click the yellow dots on the map) in Lithuania, Poland and Turkey that can cover parts of Ukraine.
Taking the Starlink.sx representation at face value, a few minutes of watching suggest that the western part of Ukraine probably has nearly non-stop coverage.  Still pretty good at Kyiv, non-existent in the far east, such as Donetsk and Luhansk.  Little or nothing at Kharkiv, but getting rapidly better going west from there.

Possibly a line from Dnipro north through Sumy might approximate the boundary.  Of course, one new ground station at Rostov-on-Don could make it all work.  Maybe that could be part of a peace settlement.

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« Reply #542 on: 03/05/2022 01:10 am »
https://twitter.com/NetVaultAus/status/1499650347908100098

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We have more Starlink terminals & Rapid Deployment Kits on their way to Lismore & Byron Bay in NSW, to provide people with high speed internet. More stock is arriving daily, & we’re getting them out the door as fast as we can. Please reach out to our team if we can assist #floods

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« Reply #543 on: 03/08/2022 02:23 am »
Battelle and National Ecological Observatory Network (NEON) Sending Ecological Data to Space and Back to Ensure Timely Delivery of Data to Scientists on Earth

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COLUMBUS, Ohio (March 7, 2022)—Battelle, which manages the U.S. National Science Foundation (NSF) National Ecological Observatory Network (NEON) program, is now using Starlink in a pilot test to achieve improved data transmission and service as part of an ongoing initiative to leverage new and innovative technologies to improve and enhance the operations of NEON.

The NSF’s NEON collects data about plants, animals, soil, nutrients, fresh water and the atmosphere in a range of U.S. ecological and climatically diverse areas through a system of field sites.

Many of the NEON sites are in remote settings, so getting the data from the field to the scientists can be a challenge. Dedicated to ensuring efficient and cost-effective transmission of the scientific data from the field sites Battelle installed a Starlink high-speed, low-latency satellite communication system at its Rocky Mountain National Park NEON tower site in Colorado.

NEON data from the site, near Rocky Mountain National Park, is now being sent up to Starlink satellites and back down to the NEON data portal for scientists to use.

“Leveraging this new technology promises to enable faster and more reliable communication of data from NEON sites for incorporation into the NEON open-data system,” said Paula Mabee, NEON Chief Scientist and Observatory Director. “In turn, this will enable scientists to better study and understand how U.S. ecosystems are changing, while at the same time making the Observatory more efficient.”

“The use of Starlink satellites for the NSF/NEON program demonstrates clearly how the new commercial space industry can benefit science and our understanding of climate and biodiversity changes,” said John Grunsfeld, former Astronaut and NASA Associate Administrator for Science. “The ability to reach remote areas nearly anywhere on planet Earth promises to enable new opportunities for science and exploration.” 

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« Reply #544 on: 03/08/2022 02:27 am »
35th Corps Signal Brigade pilots SpaceX’s Starlink commercial satellite system

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35th Corps Signal Brigade pilots SpaceX’s Starlink commercial satellite system
Soldiers assigned to the 50th Expeditionary Signal Battalion-Enhanced (ESB-E), 35th Corps Signal Brigade (CSB) are in the early stages of using the Starlink commercial satellite system throughout Europe – improving transport diversity options for commanders and pushing data across the Army network at a faster rate.

The Starlink system, operated by SpaceX, consists of low earth orbiting satellites which provides high-speed, low-latency broadband internet across the globe. The terminal is small (.6 meter phased array antenna) and lightweight (16 pounds).

“The benefit of this system is the amount of time it takes for the signal to go up into space and come back down; it saves us a lot of time on latency,” said Chief Warrant Officer 3 Kyle Neese, the senior battalion network technician for the 50th ESB-E. “The old military satellite communication system (SATCOM) uses what's called geosynchronous [satellites], which orbits around the equator at a steady pace, but it takes a little over half a second for the signal to travel up and back down. With Starlink, it comes back at more than twice the speed.”

The 35th CSB aims to use the Starlink system to achieve faster broadband and increase internet speed capabilities in order to support XVIII Airborne Corps’ warfighters and their mission command systems.

“The Starlink terminal is being used to provide tactical network speeds of up to 70 Mbps with approximately 1/3 of the normal latency over military SATCOM” said Neese. “Testing is still being conducted to increase these speeds further in support of troops on ground.”

SpaceX is also piloting the creation of a miniature mobile satellite antenna to make the Starlink system more portable.

“So far, we’ve tested version one which comes with a dish, a power injector, and a router. The simplest way to hook the Starlink up to our kit is to take an Ethernet cable and plug it into our router, which connects to our cradle point router and the cradle point router connects to our other systems as normal,” said Warrant Officer Corey McClure, a network technician for the 50th ESB-E. “This is the first of its kind to come on the market, and so far, it’s been great. It’s going to allow us to be a lot more flexible in terms of where we can set up and what we can do.”

Work is ongoing to assist with compatibility of the Starlink system with some of the current SATCOM equipment that the Army has in use.

“Starlink data rates exceed some of our current capabilities,” said Lt. Col. Mallory Wampler, the commander of the 50th ESB-E. “I know they're still doing some engineering and design modifications to make the equipment more ruggedized like our 1.2 meter Hawkeye terminal,T2C2, and our Phoenix E systems.”

Wampler said she hopes to continue leveraging Commercial Off The Shelf equipment to keep pace with technology improvements. “We are always looking to provide the most redundant Primary, Alternate, Contingency, and Emergency plan or PACE plan as possible to support the warfighter and all mission command systems.”

From the initial implementation of this new equipment, the 50th ESB-E, 35th CSB has been at the spearhead of testing the Starlink system to meet the modern-day demand of signal equipment.

“We had the opportunity to work with the joint staff during the Bold Quest exercise last summer,” Wampler said. “We learned it brings a significant capability to the formation, which is good to align with our scalability. The bandwidth throughput is the most crucial factor with this new equipment, and I think it directly aligns with the 18th Airborne Corps’ line of effort when it comes to innovation and modernization. This is the future, and I’m excited to see where this equipment can take us.”

As part of XIII Airborne Corps’ Dragon Innovation Program, the 35th CSB is informing senior leaders on innovative ways to increase missions readiness in Corps Signal Brigades as part of the Army’s modernization efforts.

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #545 on: 03/10/2022 03:09 am »
https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1501648932824301570

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Received the second shipment of Starlink stations! @elonmusk keeps his word! Thank you for supporting Ukraine and peace in the entire world! @OMarkarova thanks!

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« Reply #546 on: 03/10/2022 04:17 am »
https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1501648932824301570

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Received the second shipment of Starlink stations! @elonmusk keeps his word! Thank you for supporting Ukraine and peace in the entire world! @OMarkarova thanks!
Are those smaller boxes on the right inside the truck/trailer improved Starlink terminals with the rectangular antenna?

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« Reply #548 on: 03/10/2022 05:50 am »

Are those smaller boxes on the right inside the truck/trailer improved Starlink terminals with the rectangular antenna?

Those all look like the newer ones. Some are just stacked sideways.
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« Reply #549 on: 03/15/2022 06:53 am »
Recent tweets by Elon indicates that SpaceX's involvement in the crisis in Ukraine is deeper than a truckload of terminals. He wrote that the cybersecurity challenge would result in delay of Starship. Also, he invited Putin for a "combat". I have no idea what are these means...
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« Reply #550 on: 03/19/2022 02:16 am »
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Critical infrastructure facilities in Odesa gain access to Starlink

The equipment providing access to the Starlink satellite Internet has been installed at a number of critical infrastructure facilities in Odesa, Ukraine's southern Black Sea port city.
Ukrinform cites the press service of the Odesa City Council.

“Odesa has received kits to ensure access to the Starlink satellite Internet. A number of important critical infrastructure facilities in Odesa have installed bases to access Starlink satellite Internet,” the statement reads.

The City Hall has expressed gratitude to Elon Musk, founder, CEO, and Chief Engineer at SpaceX, as well as Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Digital Transformation of Ukraine Mykhailo Fedorov, for providing Odesa’s key agencies with a stable communications source.

As reported, the first Starlink satellite terminals were installed in Odesa on March 12 to back up conventional Internet connections in case of problems. One of the first batches of SpaceX equipment set to provide access to the Starlink satellite network was mounted at the Odesa Humanitarian Centre on Rishelievska Street.

It should be noted that the bases are set up in areas where connectivity was and could be unavailable due to hostilities. Their addresses of the installation are not disclosed.
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-society/3433528-critical-infrastructure-facilities-in-odesa-gain-access-to-starlink.html

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« Reply #551 on: 03/19/2022 02:19 am »
I can’t read this article because it’s behind a paywall, but supposedly Ukraine’s military has been really making use of Starlink terminals: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/specialist-drone-unit-picks-off-invading-forces-as-they-sleep-zlx3dj7bb

Full article can be read on reddit or via https://archive.is/qQ99J, relevant part:

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Its most sophisticated drones are connected using Starlink, a system donated by Elon Musk that uses satellites in a low orbit to enable “high data rate” activities. “We use Starlink equipment and connect the drone team with our artillery team,” the officer said.

“If we use a drone with thermal vision at night, the drone must connect through Starlink to the artillery guy and create target acquisition.”

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« Reply #552 on: 03/19/2022 02:37 am »
https://twitter.com/fedorovmykhailo/status/1504907257624109057

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A new batch of Starlink stations! While Russia is blocking access to the Internet, Ukraine is becoming more open to the entire world. Ukraine is the truth. The truth always wins. Thank you, @elonmusk, the Government of Poland, and Orlen.

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« Reply #553 on: 03/19/2022 04:34 am »
I can’t read this article because it’s behind a paywall, but supposedly Ukraine’s military has been really making use of Starlink terminals: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/specialist-drone-unit-picks-off-invading-forces-as-they-sleep-zlx3dj7bb

Full article can be read on reddit or via https://archive.is/qQ99J, relevant part:

Quote from: The Times
Its most sophisticated drones are connected using Starlink, a system donated by Elon Musk that uses satellites in a low orbit to enable “high data rate” activities. “We use Starlink equipment and connect the drone team with our artillery team,” the officer said.

“If we use a drone with thermal vision at night, the drone must connect through Starlink to the artillery guy and create target acquisition.”
So the drones themselves aren’t using Starlink (which was suggested by several headlines) - Starlink is just used for inter-team communication. I think the latter sentence is just a mis-translation. I doubt Ukraine has access to drone-mounted Starlink dishes.
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« Reply #554 on: 03/20/2022 01:33 am »
So the drones themselves aren’t using Starlink (which was suggested by several headlines) - Starlink is just used for inter-team communication. I think the latter sentence is just a mis-translation. I doubt Ukraine has access to drone-mounted Starlink dishes.

Yes, I think that's the correct assessment.

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« Reply #555 on: 03/20/2022 01:35 am »
The Washington Post had an interview with Mykhailo Fedorov, Ukraine's head of digital transformation.  He gives the outlines of Starlink's assistance, which is more substantial than I imagined.

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Ukraine has already received thousands of antennas from Musk’s companies and European allies, which has proved “very effective,” Fedorov said in an interview with The Washington Post Friday.

“The quality of the link is excellent,” Fedorov said through a translator, using a Starlink connection from an undisclosed location. “We are using thousands, in the area of thousands, of terminals with new shipments arriving every other day.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/19/elon-musk-ukraine-starlink/

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A person familiar with Starlink’s effort in Ukraine, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters, said there are more than 5,000 terminals in the country.

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« Reply #556 on: 03/23/2022 04:34 am »
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/22/elon-musk-spacex-thousands-of-starlink-satellite-dishes-sent-to-ukraine.html

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SpaceX has sent “thousands” of Starlink satellite internet kits to Ukraine, company President Gwynne Shotwell told CNBC on Tuesday.

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Shotwell, who spoke to CNBC after the panel, did not have a more specific total on the number of dishes the company has shipped to Ukraine. She added that most of the funding for the Starlink kits has come from private sources, but added that “France helped” and “I think Poland is helping.”

“I don’t think the U.S. has given us any money to give terminals to the Ukraine,” Shotwell said.

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« Reply #557 on: 03/23/2022 01:34 pm »
Good job France!
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« Reply #558 on: 03/23/2022 01:46 pm »
Good job France!

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« Reply #559 on: 03/27/2022 12:46 am »
Intelsat rolls out network service that integrates Starlink and geostationary satellites

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If you can’t beat them, join them. That is the thinking behind a new managed network service offered by satellite operator Intelsat that integrates geostationary satellites, SpaceX’s Starlink low Earth orbit constellation and cellular broadband.

“A lot of our customers would like to use Starlink and many have been using it,” Don Claussen, Intelsat’s vice president of business development, told SpaceNews at last week’s Satellite 2022 conference.

Satellite communications companies “spend so much time fighting each other over what orbits are better, what band is better,” he said. “If we’re really listening to our customers, what they are saying is ‘we kind of need all of you.’”

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