Quote from: Ludus on 06/02/2021 11:03 pmMy speculation is Starlink’s most serious revenue stream in the next few years comes from using a small but high priority fraction of the system for ultra low latency financial data between distant financial capital cities. If so they can prioritize pro Bono subsidized terminals connecting rural villages all over the world to balance huge profits in financial data and analytics with doing something important. Acting as an ISP so middle class people in the countryside can use zoom is a sort of mildly profitable middle ground.No!. The reason is very simple, when using inter-satellite links, the distance between satellites will constantly change and the total distance of the route will also change, that is, the channel will have different delay and different jitter all the time. This service is not needed for HFT
My speculation is Starlink’s most serious revenue stream in the next few years comes from using a small but high priority fraction of the system for ultra low latency financial data between distant financial capital cities. If so they can prioritize pro Bono subsidized terminals connecting rural villages all over the world to balance huge profits in financial data and analytics with doing something important. Acting as an ISP so middle class people in the countryside can use zoom is a sort of mildly profitable middle ground.
Quote from: freddo411 on 06/03/2021 03:42 pmQuote from: Robotbeat on 06/03/2021 04:24 amQuote from: daavery on 06/03/2021 03:45 amstarlinks adds at least 1000kM plus any internal latencyThat's not how the Pathagorean Theorem works. Over longer distances, the added distance can be less than 1000km. Secondarily, fiber often doesn't go in a strait line.But agree the whole "Starlink is for HFT" thing is wrong.Why do you think "Starlink is for HFT" thing is wrong? Any system that allows for communication between two trading points that is faster than other traders can be (and I claim will be) used as an arbitrage advantage. The physics of the starlink system shows that this *can* be true if SpaceX sells this service to some exclusive HFT customers. SpaceX may or may not choose to sell specific HFT-useful service. I would agree that Starlink serves many other purposes and many other paying customers. Not selling starlink for use in HFT is not a big deal.* HFT = high frequency tradingBecause it's outcompeted by microwave towers and shortwave radio.
Quote from: Robotbeat on 06/03/2021 04:24 amQuote from: daavery on 06/03/2021 03:45 amstarlinks adds at least 1000kM plus any internal latencyThat's not how the Pathagorean Theorem works. Over longer distances, the added distance can be less than 1000km. Secondarily, fiber often doesn't go in a strait line.But agree the whole "Starlink is for HFT" thing is wrong.Why do you think "Starlink is for HFT" thing is wrong? Any system that allows for communication between two trading points that is faster than other traders can be (and I claim will be) used as an arbitrage advantage. The physics of the starlink system shows that this *can* be true if SpaceX sells this service to some exclusive HFT customers. SpaceX may or may not choose to sell specific HFT-useful service. I would agree that Starlink serves many other purposes and many other paying customers. Not selling starlink for use in HFT is not a big deal.* HFT = high frequency trading
Quote from: daavery on 06/03/2021 03:45 amstarlinks adds at least 1000kM plus any internal latencyThat's not how the Pathagorean Theorem works. Over longer distances, the added distance can be less than 1000km. Secondarily, fiber often doesn't go in a strait line.But agree the whole "Starlink is for HFT" thing is wrong.
starlinks adds at least 1000kM plus any internal latency
SpaceX’s Starlink is in talks with ‘several’ airlines for in-flight Wi-FiElon Musk’s satellite internet network is vying with OneWeb to put faster Wi-Fi on commercial airplanesBy Joey Roulette on June 9, 2021 6:43 pmThe team behind SpaceX’s growing satellite internet network Starlink is in talks with “several” airlines to beam internet to their airplanes, the project’s vice president said during a conference panel on Wednesday.
The head of U.S. Northern Command wants $80 million to continue testing SpaceX’s and OneWeb’s low Earth orbit satellite internet service, which it believes could solve the military’s Arctic communications woes.
Last year, NORTHCOM and North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) asked Congress for $130 million in their unfunded priority list — essentially a wish list of items that didn’t fit into the Pentagon’s annual budget request — to explore using those two constellations for Arctic communications. That funding enabled contract awards to SpaceX and OneWeb for full-scale testing.Now, NORAD and NORTHCOM Commander Gen. Glen VanHerck requested $79.8 million in his FY22 unfunded priority list obtained by C4ISRNET to continue that effort — that’s about $30 million less than the commands expected to spend in FY22, according to their FY21 request. They would use the funding to test new terminal prototypes that can connect with multiple commercial constellations, a capability laid out in the Space Force’s Fighting SATCOM Vision.
Wow, $79.8M will buy a LOT of $500 Starlink terminals, close to 160,000. . .
The Anishinaabeg of Kabapikotawangag Resource Council (AKRC) has teamed up with Kenora’s FSET Information Technology to deliver high-speed internet access for educational purposes via Starlink to five different First Nations across northwestern Ontario.As a result of the partnership, Animakee Wa Zhing 37, Big Grassy River, Northwest Angle #33, Ojibways of Onigaming, and Wauzhushk Onigum will all be provided with around-the-clock internet service for schools and other educational institutes in their communities. The five First Nations join Pikangikum in having the service, which was the first community in the country to get Starlink back in December.
Airline wifi when? ✈️
Schedule driver there is regulatory approval. Has to be certified for each aircraft type. Focusing on 737 & A320, as those serve most number of people, with development testing on Gulfstream.
twitter.com/flcnhvy/status/1408559097570639873QuoteAirline wifi when? ✈️https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1408565146218283014QuoteSchedule driver there is regulatory approval. Has to be certified for each aircraft type. Focusing on 737 & A320, as those serve most number of people, with development testing on Gulfstream.
Cherokee Nation is working to connect Cherokee residents to affordable, high-speed internet with a new pilot project.Recently, the Tribe began installing Starlink in rural locations in an effort to expand service to unserved and underserved areas across the reservation, which will come with many benefits, such as connecting Cherokee speakers to one another, giving kids living in rural communities a chance at a better education and allowing elderly the ability to access telehealth.
Project Halo is a $100,000 Internet Package Grant that has been put together by NetVault, @SpaceX & @Cisco to give 1 lucky & needy school in regional Aus the chance to experience Internet speeds of the 21st Century! View this video for more info https://youtube.com/watch?v=eZ9c2XlLbss #StarLink
Ahrweiler / Rhineland-Palatinate - During the night, 12 Starlink satellite dishes were set up and set up for the population in the damaged area. The number increases to 35 over the course of time. Affected persons can dial in here and thus gain access to the Internet.
A draft copy of the 68-page broadband section of the infrastructure bill obtained by NBC News would establish a de facto minimum standard of 100 Mbps down and 20 Mbps up, and it would require that internet service providers have an eye toward even higher speeds, most likely through fiber optic service. In addition, it would require the federal government to establish a single website where consumers could determine whether they are eligible for low-cost broadband.
White House touts broadband part of new infrastructure dealQuote from: NBCA draft copy of the 68-page broadband section of the infrastructure bill obtained by NBC News would establish a de facto minimum standard of 100 Mbps down and 20 Mbps up, and it would require that internet service providers have an eye toward even higher speeds, most likely through fiber optic service. In addition, it would require the federal government to establish a single website where consumers could determine whether they are eligible for low-cost broadband.
SpaceX has roughly 90,000 Starlink beta test customers in North America, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand and now they have one in South America—in Sotomó, an isolated town at 41.6° South in Chile’s Lake Region. Chile’s second terminal will be online at a school in Caleta Sierra in a few days and other pilot locations will follow. Twenty families live in Sotomó and it is only accessible by private boats or subsidized services that navigate the Reloncaví Estuary on which it is located. The town has electricity about 12 hours a day thanks to a diesel generator installed by the Lake Region government in 2019.Javier de la Barra, the teacher in charge of the seven-student John F. Kennedy school where the terminal has been installed, said the service will be available to community members as well as students. Tablets are being provided for the students. He expects Internet connectivity will enrichen and improve the curriculum and student experience. Perhaps more importantly, he expects that it will improve his ability as an educator.
After half an hour's windswept journey on foot and by boat through a craggy forested estuary to the school he attends in remote southern Chile, Diego Guerrero can finally access the internet.His school is located in the hamlet of Sotomo, around 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) south of the capital Santiago in the region of Los Lagos and inhabited by just 20 families.A rain-drenched scattering of brightly painted wooden and tin houses, Sotomo stands out against a mist-swathed row of rocky outcrops jutting out into the Pacific Ocean. It can be accessed only by boat.For decades, its inhabitants have survived by catching mussels and fish to sell at market, a five-hour round-trip away by boat.Now, it is one of two places in Chile to be chosen for a pilot project run by billionaire Elon Musk, chief executive of SpaceX, to receive free internet for a year.
Caleta Sierra is the second site for the year-long @SpaceXStarlink pilot study in #Chile. The first is in Sotomó: https://circleid.com/posts/20210809-spacex-starlink-comes-to-south-americaIt will be interesting to see how the people use Starlink and what difference is makes in the communities. @Megaconstellati @OscarVisiedo
SpaceX President reveals 600,000 global Starlink internet preordersBy Eric Ralph Posted on August 22, 2021SpaceX COO and President Gwynne Shotwell says that the company has secured more than half a million preorders for Starlink satellite internet in the last nine months.Several months after SpaceX began a gradual Starlink internet rollout to prospective customers on New Zealand’s northern island, the service has now been opened up to the entire country.
