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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1020 on: 12/07/2023 09:53 am »
Some interesting perspective from former ambassador of Zimbabwe to China.  I don't know what kind of pull he has within the Zimbabwe political establishment.

Starlink's introduction to Zimbabwe appears to have some political importance.  More than in the United States or Europe.

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The Zimbabwe government will more likely to go with One Web. Despite One Web being a less capable system when compare to Starlink. Since One Web only have ground hub terminals. Not terminals to individual customers, which lessen government "Oversight".

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1021 on: 12/07/2023 03:53 pm »
https://twitter.com/starlink/status/1732546542140285379

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Starlink’s high-speed internet is now available in Honduras 🛰️🇭🇳 ❤️ →

https://www.starlink.com/map?country=HN

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1022 on: 12/13/2023 11:01 pm »
According to SpaceX, it now has over 2.2 million customers worldwide, with more than 1.3 million in the United States alone.

https://www.scribd.com/document/691991907/SpaceX-Response-to-RDOF-Order-12-12-2023
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1023 on: 12/18/2023 04:41 pm »
Reuters is reporting that India is following the rest of the world by changing to a licensing scheme for satellite broadband rather than the current auction scheme.  I don't know enough about Indian regulations to judge significance.

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India to allot satellite internet airwaves without auction in win for Musk

BENGALURU, Dec 18 (Reuters) - India has proposed a licensing approach to assigning spectrum for satellite internet services and exempt companies from having to bid for it, a win for Elon Musk's venture Starlink which has lobbied hard against any auctions.

The proposal was included in a new draft bill for the telecommunications sector, which seeks to replace the 138-year old Indian Telegraph Act that currently governs the sector. The bill was tabled for approval in parliament on Monday.

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-allot-satellite-internet-airwaves-without-auction-win-musk-2023-12-18/

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1024 on: 12/18/2023 07:33 pm »
https://twitter.com/starlink/status/1736841420970066082

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Starlink is now live in Eswatini, marking the 8th country and 10 overall market in Africa where service is available 🛰️🌍❤️ → starlink.com/map?country=SZ

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1025 on: 12/21/2023 05:52 pm »
In a 15-minute address to the nation yesterday, Argentina's new President Milei mentioned Starlink by name when announcing an emergency decree that deregulates key industries.  Before now, Starlink was blocked because it had to get Arsat's approval to operate.

Because it was the only company/service mentioned in the address, the reference is being criticized by some as a giveaway to foreign interests or a mention unworthy of an address with such national importance.  Also, there is some misunderstanding that Musk would take over or have some control over Arsat rather than simply obsoleting it, and that service in Argentina will cost $90 rather than the ~$40-$50 it likely will cost.

https://www.clarin.com/economia/liberan-provision-internet-satelite-guino-elon-musk_0_UVdgorw6v6.html

https://www.lapoliticaonline.com/politica/en-un-mensaje-a-clarin-milei-anuncio-el-ingreso-de-la-empresa-de-internet-de-elon-musk/
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1026 on: 12/21/2023 06:20 pm »
https://twitter.com/starlink/status/1737914318522581489

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Starlink is now available in Paraguay, making it the 70th country on Earth where people can get connected by high-speed, low-latency internet from space🛰️🇵🇾❤️ → https://starlink.com/map?country=PY
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1027 on: 12/22/2023 12:51 pm »
Quote from the official SX account on X.com

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"Starlink is connecting more than 2.3M people in over 70 countries"

x.com/Starlink/status/1738025258089935219?s=20

Using a rough estimate of $100 per person per month that is $2.7 billion dollars a year revenue
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1028 on: 12/22/2023 02:56 pm »
Quote from the official SX account on X.com

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"Starlink is connecting more than 2.3M people in over 70 countries"

x.com/Starlink/status/1738025258089935219?s=20

Using a rough estimate of $100 per person per month that is $2.7 billion dollars a year revenue

Commercial, aviation and maritime users pay a lot more than $100 per terminal per month. Plus there are the discounted customers in less developed areas that pays only about half the usual rate. So more likely commercial Starlink gross annual revenue is close to $3B, if not above.

Never mind the revenue for the 24/7 high bandwidth usage in Ukraine. Think that is a separate line item.

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« Reply #1029 on: 12/22/2023 07:17 pm »
Quote from the official SX account on X.com

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"Starlink is connecting more than 2.3M people in over 70 countries"

x.com/Starlink/status/1738025258089935219?s=20

Using a rough estimate of $100 per person per month that is $2.7 billion dollars a year revenue

Note that this marketing post says "2.3M people", not "2.3M accounts"
If there were now 2.3M active Starlink accounts, I'd expect them to say that.
2.3M people could be anything from 1M active Starlink accounts up to perhaps 2M - very few Starlink accounts will have only one person consuming the data. I regard this post with considerable suspicion, but them I'm old & cynical

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1030 on: 12/22/2023 07:21 pm »
Quote from the official SX account on X.com

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"Starlink is connecting more than 2.3M people in over 70 countries"

x.com/Starlink/status/1738025258089935219?s=20

Using a rough estimate of $100 per person per month that is $2.7 billion dollars a year revenue

Note that this marketing post says "2.3M people", not "2.3M accounts"
If there were now 2.3M active Starlink accounts, I'd expect them to say that.
2.3M people could be anything from 1M active Starlink accounts up to perhaps 2M - very few Starlink accounts will have only one person consuming the data. I regard this post with considerable suspicion, but them I'm old & cynical

A week or two ago, SpaceX told the FCC that it had more than 2.2 million customers.

I don't think you need to slice this salami so thinly.

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1031 on: 12/23/2023 03:46 am »
Since SpaceX has no idea of how many people they are connecting, and a very precise tally of how many customers they have, how many dishes they’ve shipped, it seems obvious that the latter is what they are talking about.

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1032 on: 12/24/2023 06:40 am »
https://twitter.com/cmdr_hadfield/status/1738620856270561343

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Great to see high-speed internet now available to all northern Canadians, right across Nunavut.
Read the details: https://nunatsiaq.com/stories/article/northern-firm-gets-up-to-nearly-27m-to-speed-up-nunavuts-internet/
(image Josh u/DudeItsJag) @Starlink @ssicanada1

https://twitter.com/mayemusk/status/1738823080808415543

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My twin sister lives in a remote area of Canada. The Internet connection used to be unreliable. She now has @Starlink to contact her family, emergency services, and FaceTime me. Feeling safe is not overrated.

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1033 on: 12/24/2023 03:33 pm »
Quote from: tweet
Great to see high-speed internet now available to all northern Canadians, right across Nunavut.
This is impressive, and I'm glad that the populace is getting Starlink service. It's also an indication that Starlink is serious about truly universal service. It's a very large territory. However, the total population of Nunavut is 40,000 people.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunavut

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1034 on: 12/25/2023 05:59 pm »
I can see there being 10,000 total internet subscribers. That’s still substantial.
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1035 on: 12/25/2023 06:03 pm »
I can see there being 10,000 total internet subscribers. That’s still substantial.
The contention ratio will be nice and low, and the service quality likely stellar!
This is after all an example if its target market!
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« Reply #1036 on: 12/25/2023 06:15 pm »
I can see there being 10,000 total internet subscribers. That’s still substantial.
The contention ratio will be nice and low, and the service quality likely stellar!
This is after all an example if its target market!
They will use the subconstellation in polar orbits which almost certainly uses ISL, so they contend with other folks for the gateways. They also contend with over-the-pole transcontinental airliners, of which there are quite a few. But I suspect you are right: excellent service!

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1037 on: 12/28/2023 07:20 pm »
https://twitter.com/starlink/status/1740466939250856067

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With Starlink, users can engage in online gaming which historically wasn’t possible with satellite internet.

A group of gamers in Brazil hosted a match enabled by Starlink on top of a mountain in Serra do Rola-Moca 🛰️🏔️🎮 →

https://stories.starlink.com/stories/internet-from-space-for-touching-some-grass

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1038 on: 12/31/2023 07:35 pm »
A long X post by Jimmy Grewal of Elcome International, a maritime Starlink integrator/reseller.  Lots of great information, including that the company has installed ~1,000 dishes so far and expects to install 2,000 more in 2024.  Over the last 20 years, the company has installed about 1,000 VSAT dishes, so you can see that Starlink has much more traction than the prior technology.

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The folks at @Starlink recently updated the map on their website (https://starlink.com/map) to also show performance data at sea. For comparison, I’ve attached our map displaying the average latency data for the Starlink Flat High Performance terminals sold by my team at @Elcome_Intl.

This data is for the last five weeks. Lighter colors indicate lower latency with the scale (white to dark blue) being from 40-150ms of latency between the Starlink and the PoP (point of preference…where the customer’s traffic connects to the Internet).

Next week we are delivering our 1,000th Starlink Flat High Performance kit…a significant milestone for us as that’s approximately the number of traditional maritime VSATs we installed over the past 20 years.

In December, we have provided our Starlink maritime customers over 600TB of Mobile Priority data which they have consumed at an average aggregate bandwidth of 1.6 Gbps. The average daily traffic was 27GB per day, while the peak single day consumption by a vessel in December was 768GB.

The average network availability was 99.4%, and the peak speeds achieved by any vessel was 361 Mbps download and 111 Mbps upload. Average latency was 77ms and average signal quality was 95%.

Our forecast for 2024 is that we will deploy at least another 2,000 maritime Starlinks. On the land side we expect the numbers to be much higher. Our partnership with @SpaceX is stronger than ever and we are working closely to accelerate the deployment of #Starlink at sea.

If you have any questions or comments about Starlink’s maritime service, feel free to ask!

https://twitter.com/jimmyg/status/1741462354137935879
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1039 on: 01/01/2024 01:15 am »
Great to see this company supplied at least one ship that has been to Antarctica!
I suppose the poor latency around Africa, may be lack of base stations, and use of inter satellite links to a distant base station.
Brilliant but not unexpected that Starlink is such a success, since it is such an improvement on the previous services.
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