Author Topic: SpaceX F9 : Starlink v1.0 Flight 3 : January 29, 2020 - Master Thread  (Read 119880 times)

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Lots of cloud

https://twitter.com/tgmetsfan98/status/1221796932412157953

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Good morning from Cape Canaveral, where we are hoping the weather will cooperate with today’s #SpaceX #Falcon9 #Starlink launch!

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https://twitter.com/antoniaj_11/status/1221797601550331906

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I spy a #SpaceX #Falcon9 rocket ready to liftoff no earlier than 9:49 a.m. from CCAFS LC-40. Weather is still only 50% “go”, though...
« Last Edit: 01/27/2020 01:16 pm by FutureSpaceTourist »

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T-38 minutes. The SpaceX Launch Director should be verifying go for propellant load about now.
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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T-35 minutes. First and second stage RP-1 and first stage LOX loading should be starting about now.
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Scrubbed.

Clock has stopped at KSC press site.
« Last Edit: 01/27/2020 01:17 pm by RocketLover0119 »
"The Starship has landed"

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Yep. Absolutely a scrub. Just waiting for the SpaceX tweet.

They heard me ;)

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1221799899848531969
« Last Edit: 01/27/2020 01:20 pm by Chris Bergin »
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Yes, launch forecast tomorrow is 90% GO and upper level winds at 90 kts

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Launch day probability of violating launch weather constraints: 10%
Primary concern(s): Cumulus Cloud Rule

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https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1221932844269752321

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Now targeting Wednesday, January 29 at 9:06 a.m., 14:06 UTC, for launch of Starlink due to poor weather in the recovery area

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The NOAA Storm Prediction Center
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/soundings/
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/soundings/20012712_OBS/
Click on Blue Dot representing the reporting station having the latest .

For winds and analysis
Cooperative Institute for
Meteorological Satellite Studies

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/windmain.php?&basin=atlantic&sat=wg8&prod=wvir&zoom=&time

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/

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This probably explains why no new launch forecast yet issued by the 45th

twitter.com/spacebrendan/status/1222250223097057281

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Just spoke with @FloridaStorms Meteorologist @ray_hawthorne: Upper level winds could continue to plague #SpaceX #Starlink launch attempts. ULW up to 115 mph tomorrow, and could increase throughout the week.

https://twitter.com/nasa_nerd/status/1222251875795394562

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ULW's really does encompass and impact a large area of the map.

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Forecast not yet on web but has been briefed:

https://twitter.com/emrekelly/status/1222263159718916192

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Forecast for tomorrow's #SpaceX Starlink launch, slated for liftoff at 0906 ET (1406 UTC): 80% "go," according to the 45th. Upper-level winds expected to be 110 knots at 35,000 ft.

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https://twitter.com/chrisg_nsf/status/1222266142422654976

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We finally have a weather forecast for tomorrow! 80% chance of acceptable launch conditions, but upper-level winds at 100 kts bear watching. #SpaceX #Falcon9 #Starlink
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Forgive me.  I'm sure this has been discussed before and I know there's a better place for it but .....

I've noticed citing upper level wind speed (most recently in the preceding posts) among data points affecting Launch Weather Constraints.  And from credible sources which suggests caution in questioning.

However, to be clear, the Upper Level Wind Rule is for Wind Shear correct?  And so while wind speed and shear certainly have a correlation, is it not the case the speed itself doesn't tell us (everything, much, .... not sure how it would be characterized)?  This armchair observer isn't sure how tightly correlated high wind speeds are with respect to shear.

https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/649911main_051612_falcon9_weather_criteria.pdf

Falcon 9 Launch Weather Criteria

-  Do not launch if the sustained wind at the 162-foot level of the launch pad exceeds 30 knots.
-  Do not launch through upper-level conditions containing wind shear that could lead to control problems for the launch vehicle.




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Thank you so much meberbs!!!  I'd not see the article (cited next post immediately below) or much discussion of it or the rule.  And it's recently coverage by the NSF team perfectly explains the change I'd noticed.
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Forgive me.  I'm sure this has been discussed before and I know there's a better place for it but .....

I've noticed citing upper level wind speed (most recently in the preceding posts) among data points affecting Launch Weather Constraints.  And from credible sources which suggests caution in questioning.
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The reason for citing wind speed despite the issue mostly being with shear was well described in this site's article for the first Starlink launch of this year:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2020/01/spacex-kick-start-global-2020-starlink/
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While the primary consideration with the upper level wind speed is the shear it creates as the Falcon 9 ascends through the dense lower atmosphere, historically Falcon 9 missions encountering upper level winds in the low-90 knot range or below have been fine while the mid-90 knot range provides concern yet wiggle room.

Upper-90 knot and above speeds for the upper level winds almost always result in a scrub and recycle for Falcon 9 flights.

Just some of the things that make upper level winds incredibly mission-specific include the payload mass, Falcon 9 trajectory, the angle at which the winds intersect the vehicle during ascent, whether or not the Falcon 9 is flying a payload fairing, at what time in the flight the greatest shear from the upper level winds will be encountered, etc.

All of that makes it quite difficult for the upper level winds to be included in the percent of violation forecast issued by the 45th Weather Squadron.

Instead, the Squadron provides day-of upper level wind data from weather balloons to the SpaceX launch team, which in turn makes the decision as to whether or not the winds are acceptable for flight.

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https://twitter.com/launchphoto/status/1222304926233190402

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Falcon 9 poised during sunset for Wednesday morning launch attempt. VIEWING GUIDE: Best places to watch in person! launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_…
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SpaceX clearly think there’s a chance winds will be ok today:

https://twitter.com/spacexfleet/status/1222453227217727491

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Tracking indicates that Tug Hawk has released OCISLY from her tow and has now retreated to a safe distance. GO Quest remains with the droneship for final preparations.

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Here's the updated press kit with the new launch dates. If today's launch is scrubbed the next opportunity is tomorrow 30 January at 8:45 am EST (13:45 UTC).
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https://twitter.com/emrekelly/status/1222499415904129024

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Countdown clocks are running for 0906 ET Starlink launch.

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Pre-launch live stream by Chris G and co


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How are the ULWs looking?
Liftoff for St. Jude's! Go Dragon, Go Falcon, Godspeed Inspiration4!

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https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1222502438348808193

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Falcon 9 and Starlink are looking good ahead of this morning’s launch at 9:06 a.m. EST, 14:06 UTC, and weather is 80% favorable. Webcast will go live ~15 minutes before liftoff → spacex.com/webcast
« Last Edit: 01/29/2020 11:56 am by FutureSpaceTourist »

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