Cosmonaut assignments

[TALsite]

New info from Sergey Shamsutdinov (one of editors of Novosti kosmonavtiki magazine) about prime / back-up crews of future Soyuz TMA spacecrafts.

Thank you Mr. Shamsutdinov and Anik

NASA has opened a pre-flight image gallery for the ISS-25 crew:
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-25/preflight/ndxpage1.html
... and there is an image of Kondratyev listed as "Expedition 25/26 flight engineer".  Is there more delays for the TMA-01M spacecraft?

Yuriy Malenchenko left Cosmonaut Detachment.

Good luck to Mr. Malenchenko.

[anik]

NASA has opened a pre-flight image gallery for the ISS-25 crew:
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-25/preflight/ndxpage1.html
...and there is an image of Kondratyev listed as "Expedition 25/26 flight engineer". Is there more delays for the TMA-01M spacecraft?

Dmitriy Kondratyev was Expedition 25/26 flight engineer till April 2009 when he was replaced by Aleksandr Kaleri.

[orbiter62995]

As far as I know, Moshchenko and Zhukow are not members of the Energiya cosmonaut group.

Isn't Moschenko a tourist?

He didn't have cosmonaut training I didn't think

[asdert]

As far as I know, Moshchenko and Zhukow are not members of the Energiya cosmonaut group.

Isn't Moschenko a tourist?

He didn't have cosmonaut training I didn't think

No, Moschenko is not a tourist, he is an engineer from Khrunichev (the only one to become cosmonaut). He had cosmonaut training at Star City and at JSC. He was assigned to ISS Expedition 7, but was replaced by Kaleri in December 2002, but Kaleri didn't fly either, because the crew size was reduced to two after the Columbia accident, see http://ims.ivv.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/news/releases/2002/h02-235.html

His NASA bio is still of 2001: http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/moschenko.html

[TALsite]

Anik

…was Expedition 25/26 flight engineer till April 2009…

Uppss… Yes, I didn’t notice the date of the image…

Anik, have you news about new recruitments of cosmonauts, especially for IMBP?

Orbiter62995

Isn't Moschenko a tourist?

Read also the second post of this page by SMS

[orbiter62995]

As far as I know, Moshchenko and Zhukow are not members of the Energiya cosmonaut group.

Isn't Moschenko a tourist?

He didn't have cosmonaut training I didn't think

No, Moschenko is not a tourist, he is an engineer from Khrunichev (the only one to become cosmonaut). He had cosmonaut training at Star City and at JSC. He was assigned to ISS Expedition 7, but was replaced by Kaleri in December 2002, but Kaleri didn't fly either, because the crew size was reduced to two after the Columbia accident, see http://ims.ivv.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/news/releases/2002/h02-235.html

His NASA bio is still of 2001: http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/moschenko.html

Alrighty.  Thanks for clearing that up.  He did fly on a short-duration Soyuz changeout mission to the ISS in 2003 or 2004, no?

[aquarius]

No, Moshchenko never flew in space.

[orbiter62995]

OOOH that's right I'm thinking of Schargin and Kozeev.

True true.

[orbiter62995]

Another thing that concerns me is that some of them don't speak English…It seems as if Jeff Williams must speak Russian because when he was with Pavel Vinogradov a few years ago…I don't think that he speaks English…and there's a video on Youtube of the Soyuz TMA-16 crew giving a press conference and Suraev doesn't speak a word of English.  Is it required?  Luckily Jeff is on that mission too…

If it isn't required, which astronauts speak Russian, does anyone know?

[JimO]

No, Moschenko is not a tourist, he is an engineer from Khrunichev (the only one to become cosmonaut). He had cosmonaut training at Star City and at JSC. He was assigned to ISS Expedition 7, but was replaced by Kaleri in December 2002, but Kaleri didn't fly either, because the crew size was reduced to two after the Columbia accident..,

The gossip I heard was that his departure from a near-launch crew was involved with his English-language tutor, a young woman who did not spend much of their private time together on language lessons. Other people assured me that he just didn't have the knack for learning English. Or am I confusing him with some other cosmonaut-trainee?

[jacqmans]

No, Moschenko is not a tourist, he is an engineer from Khrunichev (the only one to become cosmonaut). He had cosmonaut training at Star City and at JSC. He was assigned to ISS Expedition 7, but was replaced by Kaleri in December 2002, but Kaleri didn't fly either, because the crew size was reduced to two after the Columbia accident..,

The gossip I heard was that his departure from a near-launch crew was involved with his English-language tutor, a young woman who did not spend much of their private time together on language lessons. Other people assured me that he just didn't have the knack for learning English. Or am I confusing him with some other cosmonaut-trainee?

This is what Dave Fowler  wrote on 7 nov 2002, 06:59 on   
sci.space.station

Moshchenko had lots of problems. He had been replaced once earlier, by Poleshchuk for awhile, but was reinstated. He was finally pulled for good. He had poor English skills, problems in EVA training, and a poor evaluation on his SSRMS work.

I had the impression that he was well-liked, but just did not take his training as seriously as he should have.
>

[anik]

have you news about new recruitments of cosmonauts, especially for IMBP?

Sergey Shamsutdinov has said on Novosti kosmonavtiki forum that there two pretenders from RSC Energia: Sergey Kud'-Sverchkov and Nataliya Kolesnik.

[hop]

I don't think that he speaks English…and there's a video on Youtube of the Soyuz TMA-16 crew giving a press conference and Suraev doesn't speak a word of English.  Is it required?  Luckily Jeff is on that mission too…

The fact that he prefers to use his native language in a press event is not by itself evidence he doesn't speak any English.

See http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=4392.msg432161#msg432161 regarding language issues.

[orbiter62995]

The fact that he prefers to use his native language in a press event is not by itself evidence he doesn't speak any English.

See http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=4392.msg432161#msg432161 regarding language issues.

Okay, well the question now remains with Vinogradov.

In general though, if they don't understand or speak English at least at some level, then how do we complete a flight on the ISS when we can't even speak to our crewmates?

[Michael Cassutt]

The fact that he prefers to use his native language in a press event is not by itself evidence he doesn't speak any English.

See http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=4392.msg432161#msg432161 regarding language issues.

Okay, well the question now remains with Vinogradov.

In general though, if they don't understand or speak English at least at some level, then how do we complete a flight on the ISS when we can't even speak to our crewmates?

ISS crew members are required to have working proficiency in English -- and NASA astronauts need some Russian.  (One was even pulled from an ISS assignment for failing to meet the standard.)  I met Vinogradov in 1998 and he had at least rudimentary English then -- I feel confident in assuming it got better over the next 4-5 years.

Michael Cassutt

[orbiter62995]

The fact that he prefers to use his native language in a press event is not by itself evidence he doesn't speak any English.

See http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=4392.msg432161#msg432161 regarding language issues.

Okay, well the question now remains with Vinogradov.

In general though, if they don't understand or speak English at least at some level, then how do we complete a flight on the ISS when we can't even speak to our crewmates?

ISS crew members are required to have working proficiency in English -- and NASA astronauts need some Russian.  (One was even pulled from an ISS assignment for failing to meet the standard.)  I met Vinogradov in 1998 and he had at least rudimentary English then -- I feel confident in assuming it got better over the next 4-5 years.

Michael Cassutt

Which one was pulled?

[anik]

I have updated prime / back-up crews of future Soyuz TMA spacecrafts with information from http://www.collectspace.com/review/issassignments_080609a-lg.jpg

Soyuz TMA-16 (launch - September 30, 2009):
CDR - Maksim Suraev (Expedition 21/22 FE) / Aleksandr Skvortsov (Expedition 21/22 FE)
FE - Jeffrey Williams (Expedition 21 FE, Expedition 22 CDR) / Shannon Walker (Expedition 21 FE, Expedition 22 CDR)
SFP - Guy Laliberté / Barbara Barrett

Soyuz TMA-17 (launch - December 7, 2009):
CDR - Oleg Kotov (Expedition 22 FE, Expedition 23 CDR) / Anton Shkaplerov (Expedition 22/23 FE)
FE1 - Soichi Noguchi (Expedition 22/23 FE) / Satoshi Furukawa (Expedition 22/23 FE)
FE2 - Timothy Creamer (Expedition 22/23 FE) / Douglas Wheelock (Expedition 22 FE, Expedition 23 CDR)

Soyuz TMA-18 (launch - April 2, 2010):
CDR - Aleksandr Skvortsov (Expedition 23 FE, Expedition 24 CDR) / Aleksandr Samokutyaev (Expedition 23/24 FE)
FE1 - Mikhail Kornienko (Expedition 23/24 FE) / Andrey Borisenko (Expedition 23 FE, Expedition 24 CDR)
FE2 - Tracy Caldwell (Expedition 23/24 FE) / Scott Kelly (Expedition 23/24 FE)

Soyuz TMA-19 (launch - May 29, 2010):
CDR - Fyodor Yurchikhin (Expedition 24/25 FE) / Dmitriy Kondratyev (Expedition 24/25 FE)
FE1 - Shannon Walker (Expedition 24/25 FE) / Paolo Nespoli (Expedition 24/25 FE)
FE2 - Douglas Wheelock (Expedition 24 FE, Expedition 25 CDR) / Catherine Coleman (Expedition 24 FE, Expedition 25 CDR)

Soyuz TMA-01M (launch - September 29, 2010):
CDR - Aleksandr Kaleri (Expedition 25/26 FE) / Sergey Volkov (Expedition 25/26 FE)
FE1 - Oleg Skripochka (Expedition 25/26 FE) / Sergey Revin (Expedition 25/26 FE)
FE2 - Scott Kelly (Expedition 25 FE, Expedition 26 CDR) / Ronald Garan (Expedition 25 FE, Expedition 26 CDR)

Soyuz TMA-20 (launch - November 30, 2010):
CDR - Dmitriy Kondratyev (Expedition 26 FE, Expedition 27 CDR) / Anatoliy Ivanishin (Expedition 26 FE, Expedition 27 CDR)
FE1 - Paolo Nespoli (Expedition 26/27 FE) / Satoshi Furukawa (Expedition 26/27 FE)
FE2 - Catherine Coleman (Expedition 26/27 FE) / Michael Fossum (Expedition 26/27 FE)

Soyuz TMA-21 (launch - March 31, 2011):
CDR - Aleksandr Samokutyaev (Expedition 27/28 FE) / Anton Shkaplerov (Expedition 27 FE, Expedition 28 CDR)
FE1 - Andrey Borisenko (Expedition 27 FE, Expedition 28 CDR) / Sergey Revin (Expedition 27/28 FE)
FE2 - Ronald Garan (Expedition 27/28 FE) / Daniel Burbank (Expedition 27/28 FE)

Soyuz TMA-02M (launch - May 31, 2011):
CDR - Sergey Volkov (Expedition 28/29 FE) / Oleg Kononenko (Expedition 28/29 FE)
FE1 - Satoshi Furukawa (Expedition 28/29 FE) / André Kuipers (Expedition 28/29 FE)
FE2 - Michael Fossum (Expedition 28 FE, Expedition 29 CDR) / Donald Pettit (Expedition 28 FE, Expedition 29 CDR)

Soyuz TMA-22 (launch - September 30, 2011):
CDR - Anton Shkaplerov (Expedition 29/30 FE) / Roskosmos (TBA) (Expedition 29/30 FE)
FE1 - Sergey Revin (Expedition 29/30 FE) / Roskosmos (TBA) (Expedition 29/30 FE)
FE2 - Daniel Burbank (Expedition 29 FE, Expedition 30 CDR) / NASA (TBA) (Expedition 29 FE, Expedition 30 CDR)

Soyuz TMA-03M (launch - November 20, 2011):
CDR - Oleg Kononenko (Expedition 30 FE, Expedition 31 CDR) / Roskosmos (TBA) (Expedition 30 FE, Expedition 31 CDR)
FE1 - André Kuipers (Expedition 30/31 FE) / ESA (TBA) (Expedition 30/31 FE)
FE2 - Donald Pettit (Expedition 30/31 FE) / NASA (TBA) (Expedition 30/31 FE)

[orbiter62995]

As for the veteran cosmonauts, it seems as if Rosaviakosmos isn't going to fly them…With the exception of Kaleri and Yurchikhin, everyone is new to space.  Many are from the 1997 group, of which the bulk of cosmonauts have not flown from.

Why didn't Yurchikhin or Kaleri get the command?  Fyodor was Ex. 15 CDR and Kaleri has had 4 F.E. assignments – Krikalev had 3 but that was one FE assignment on the ISS and then one cmd.  Kaleri would have 2 FE assignments on the ISS.

Also, are we going to see Tyurin fly any time soon?

My last question is about Zhukov and Vinogradov:

Why aren't they training at the moment?

[aquarius]

My last question is about Zhukov and Vinogradov:

Why aren't they training at the moment?

At 56, Vinogradov is unlikely to fly again.

[orbiter62995]

My last question is about Zhukov and Vinogradov:

Why aren't they training at the moment?

At 56, Vinogradov is unlikely to fly again.

Figured, but Zhukov?