Plus there is a direct background vibrational pathway, bottom of EmDrive to scale, scale to table.
So any vibrations on the table are transmitted to the almost balanced EmDrive.
With 0.5g pressing down and 14mg of vibration pressing up, the EmDrive will occasionally move up from the upward component of the vibration.
If Rf power is applied to the cavity, during one of those upper vibrational force events, the EmDrive may engage Motor Mode & start to generate an upward directed force.
When it does so, the weight sensed by the scale will drop and the scale's compressed spring will release some of it's stored potential energy, pushing the EmDrive upward.
Background vibrations can only then reach the EmDrive via the central pivot, where then need to lift a 10kg mass, instead of the 0.5g mass as existed when the EmDrive was touching the scale.
In this case there is no compressed scale spring ready to push the weight reducing EmDrive upward.
The coupler was almost as large as the cavity (!)
Absolutely right. The coupler along with the cavity were a simple receiver. Together with the plate beneath them, Tajmar received GRAVITSUP. This was the reason that then he turned EMdrive thrust was maintained.That is the opposite of any result reported by Tajmar. Please don't make things up.
The coupler was almost as large as the cavity (!)
Absolutely right. The coupler along with the cavity were a simple receiver. Together with the plate beneath them, Tajmar received GRAVITSUP. This was the reason that then he turned EMdrive thrust was maintained.That is the opposite of any result reported by Tajmar. Please don't make things up.https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325177082_The_SpaceDrive_Project_-_First_Results_on_EMDrive_and_Mach-Effect_Thrusters
Page 3 " The thrust direction also seems to reverse for the 180° direction. However, at 90° we see a similar thrust as in the 180° direction, where we should expect zero thrust. "
Consider:
Mass in space knows neither velocity nor distance moved.
Both are frame variants.
However the Rf amp driving the EmDrive knows only constant W input & Joules of energy consumed = RfW * sec.
Roger Shawyer's 2019 IAC paper:
"EmDrive Thrust/Load Characteristics. Theory, Experimental Results and a Moon Mission"
is available on
http://www.emdrive.com/IAC2019Paper.pdf
Plus attached.
Enjoy.
“The problem is that, unlike a rocket, but more like an electrical machine, EmDrive requires to work against a load before thrust can be measured.”
This is a key point that seems to fall on deaf ears intentionally or otherwise.
Very simply the issue at hand is the proof or falsification of Sawyer’s results. And very simply, if someone has built an apparatus and not introduced “a load” as Sawyer understands and documents then they have proven nothing. (Watching folks build their apparatus like Jamie and rmfwguy is certainly educational however.)
It is like piling up dynamite claiming it is not an explosive because it does nothing, throwing up ones hands and walking away muttering. Introducing a blasting cap with a lit fuse may confound what are otherwise very premature conclusions.
pushing or pooling
pushing or pooling
Do you know even what you're saying?
Tighten up.
With 0.5g pressing down and 14mg of vibration pressing up, the EmDrive will occasionally move up from the upward component of the vibration.
If Rf power is applied to the cavity, during one of those upper vibrational force events, the EmDrive may engage Motor Mode & start to generate an upward directed force.
When it does so, the weight sensed by the scale will drop and the scale's compressed spring will release some of it's stored potential energy, pushing the EmDrive upward.
Which will enforce the strength of Motor Mode.
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Hi TT. As meberbs already pointed out, a vibration like this is a rapid movement of an object over a short distance that alternately goes in a direction then in the opposite direction. This is pretty obvious for everyone I think. A vibration does not provide only one directional force component.
It’s just a question - what will happen if an open type cavity resonator is placed on the surface of a solar sail device, for example, a conical-shaped dielectric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_resonator). The quality factor of such a resonator can be of the order of 104-106 (The Dielectric Microwave Resonator). Can we expect the magical effect of increasing the rocket thrust of such a device?
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Hi TT. As meberbs already pointed out, a vibration like this is a rapid movement of an object over a short distance that alternately goes in a direction then in the opposite direction. This is pretty obvious for everyone I think. A vibration does not provide only one directional force component.
What happens when the vibration shortens the gap in one direction to allow a Casimir effect while widen it at the other direction and then doesn't? Just curious??
It’s just a question - what will happen if an open type cavity resonator is placed on the surface of a solar sail device, for example, a conical-shaped dielectric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_resonator). The quality factor of such a resonator can be of the order of 104-106 (The Dielectric Microwave Resonator). Can we expect the magical effect of increasing the rocket thrust of such a device?
It’s just a question - what will happen if an open type cavity resonator is placed on the surface of a solar sail device, for example, a conical-shaped dielectric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_resonator). The quality factor of such a resonator can be of the order of 104-106 (The Dielectric Microwave Resonator). Can we expect the magical effect of increasing the rocket thrust of such a device?I guess nothing special would happen. The sail would be slightly less efficient* than the naked one due to the dielectric loss in the resonator and the additional mass of the resonator itself.
It’s just a question - what will happen if an open type cavity resonator is placed on the surface of a solar sail device, for example, a conical-shaped dielectric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_resonator). The quality factor of such a resonator can be of the order of 104-106 (The Dielectric Microwave Resonator). Can we expect the magical effect of increasing the rocket thrust of such a device?
Well the point of a cavity or resonator is that you want it to store energy and do work multiple times per second.
It’s just a question - what will happen if an open type cavity resonator is placed on the surface of a solar sail device, for example, a conical-shaped dielectric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_resonator). The quality factor of such a resonator can be of the order of 104-106 (The Dielectric Microwave Resonator). Can we expect the magical effect of increasing the rocket thrust of such a device?I guess nothing special would happen. The sail would be slightly less efficient* than the naked one due to the dielectric loss in the resonator and the additional mass of the resonator itself.Thanks. But according to the idea of Emdrive, such a resonator (on the surface of the sail) should create thrust emdrive. Of course, this is poorly said for the term "solar sail", it is better to define a system that consists of the parts: a) an RF source b) an RF emitter (horn antenna, for example) and an RF receiver - an open type dielectric resonator. I used the term "sail" for brevity.
Well the point of a cavity or resonator is that you want it to store energy and do work multiple times per second.It's probably hard for me to describe my question in a nutshell. I thought that in the known versions of emdrive there is a technical problem when the RF antenna is placed inside a copper cone (emdrive). And I thought about resonators of the open type, that somehow they use the EM field from the source from the outside. And it became interesting to me to understand what physics can do here, in principle.
It’s just a question - what will happen if an open type cavity resonator is placed on the surface of a solar sail device, for example, a conical-shaped dielectric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_resonator). The quality factor of such a resonator can be of the order of 104-106 (The Dielectric Microwave Resonator). Can we expect the magical effect of increasing the rocket thrust of such a device?I guess nothing special would happen. The sail would be slightly less efficient* than the naked one due to the dielectric loss in the resonator and the additional mass of the resonator itself.Thanks. But according to the idea of Emdrive, such a resonator (on the surface of the sail) should create thrust emdrive. Of course, this is poorly said for the term "solar sail", it is better to define a system that consists of the parts: a) an RF source b) an RF emitter (horn antenna, for example) and an RF receiver - an open type dielectric resonator. I used the term "sail" for brevity.
You want to build a transmission that keeps the engine at optimal rpm for maximum torque and a transmission that can handle that torque. This is why I don't like automatic transmissions in that they allow the car to rev up, lowering efficiency. For gasoline engines that don't have a lot of torque, and are more inefficient, because of their low pressure, they have to let it rev up because the engine can't handle the torque.