Quote from: Semmel on 01/24/2020 08:47 amIn the SpaceX launch abort post flight press conference, Jim was asked why the decision to extend the mission was not already taken. Independently of weather the DM-2 is extended or not, the delay in making this decision is dubious to me. I dont understand what they are waiting for. The question was not answered btw.I think the answer was given in a recent GAO report. Boeing threatened to bail out. A plan was devised. Boeing can skip the CFT and move straight to operational missions AND get extra money for this. This was and is not necessary for SpaceX and therefore was not done.
In the SpaceX launch abort post flight press conference, Jim was asked why the decision to extend the mission was not already taken. Independently of weather the DM-2 is extended or not, the delay in making this decision is dubious to me. I dont understand what they are waiting for. The question was not answered btw.
Boeing isn't exactly skipping CFT, just expanding it. It's still their first crewed flight and will need to go through all of the same qualification stuff. The vehicle still won't be certified for the further missions until after CFT. The price added to CFT is about the cost of one seat on a normal Boeing mission.
At this time various groups, airlines, the Air Force,... are all bludgeoning Boeing, with justification. We will see if NASA is sufficiently emboldened to join them and shake off their subservient approach and have Boeing do what they claimed to be preeminent at, or quit this too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Starliner/comments/evn92n/boeing_incurs_a_410_million_charge_to_provision/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Quote from: SoftwareDude on 01/29/2020 07:49 pmhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Starliner/comments/evn92n/boeing_incurs_a_410_million_charge_to_provision/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmfShould we take this to mean that the internal Starliner marginal cost is $410 million?
Boeing seems to think a repeat unmanned test flight is a real possibility, or simply scraping around for plausible accounting writeoffs?https://techcrunch.com/2020/01/29/boeing-reports-a-410m-charge-in-case-nasa-decides-starliner-needs-another-uncrewed-launch/
During that telecon, Doug Loverro admitted that NASA's oversight was insufficient and that the independent review team had recommendations for NASA as well. Could the fallout from this Starliner story mean that additional (re)reviews are instigated on SpaceX software as well?
SpaceX set to launch NASA astronauts first after Boeing narrowly avoids catastrophe in spaceBy Eric RalphPosted on February 11, 2020SpaceX is set to become the first private company to launch NASA astronauts as few as three months from now, all but guaranteed after Boeing’s competing Starliner spacecraft narrowly avoided a catastrophe in space on its orbital launch debut.
The SpaceX Crew Dragon spacecraft for its first crew launch from American soil has arrived at the launch site. NASA and SpaceX are preparing for the company’s first flight test with astronauts to the International Space Station as part of the agency’s Commercial Crew Program.The SpaceX Crew Dragon will launch atop a Falcon 9 rocket with NASA astronauts Bob Behnken and Doug Hurley from historic Launch Complex 39A from NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The spacecraft now will undergo final testing and prelaunch processing in a SpaceX facility on nearby Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.
https://blogs.nasa.gov/spacex/2020/02/14/spacex-crew-dragon-arrives-for-demo-2-mission/QuoteThe SpaceX Crew Dragon spacecraft for its first crew launch from American soil has arrived at the launch site. NASA and SpaceX are preparing for the company’s first flight test with astronauts to the International Space Station as part of the agency’s Commercial Crew Program.The SpaceX Crew Dragon will launch atop a Falcon 9 rocket with NASA astronauts Bob Behnken and Doug Hurley from historic Launch Complex 39A from NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The spacecraft now will undergo final testing and prelaunch processing in a SpaceX facility on nearby Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.
Trying to remember from the shuttle days, but that seems the usual way astronauts are loaded up on the astrovan. That's probably so that they get photographed and be seen by the public when they are getting on it. Edit, I remembered correctly:
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Boeings_first_manned_Starliner_to_be_launched_to_ISS_on_31_August_999.htmlRussian source says Starliner Crew launch August 31st.
