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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 4, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #60 on: 12/03/2019 02:32 pm »
.@SpaceX’s Dragon spacecraft will race into the sky Wednesday carrying tons of cargo, supplies & research to the @Space_Station.

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Weather is 90% go for the #SpaceX #CRS19 launch to the International Space Station on December 4th. Liftoff is scheduled for 12:51 EST (17:51 UTC).

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Will mid level shear be an issue?
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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 4, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #62 on: 12/03/2019 02:51 pm »
The elapsed time for the CRS-19 second stage reentry is not much shorter than the time to coast from LEO to GEO.
If and when I get the time it seems obvious to compare the delta-V of that ~6 degree plane change (guess:0.6 km/sec) to a GTO injection burn.
If we see a second stage deorbit burn it would indicate that this is a test of direct injection into GEO. Somewhat like the first Heavy launch.
What is the longest FH-F9 second stage coast duration to date?

Maybe, are they trying to demonstrate TLI capabilities for the Gateway logistics contract?

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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 4, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #63 on: 12/03/2019 02:56 pm »
What is the longest FH-F9 second stage coast duration to date?

Wasn't FH Demo about 6 hours?

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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 4, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #64 on: 12/03/2019 03:54 pm »
I think 3rd Falcon Heavy, STP-2 mission, had SECO-4 at 03:28:03 after launch.

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Wasn't FH Demo about 6 hours?

Oh, yes, you are correct, i checked it. My fault.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 4, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #65 on: 12/03/2019 05:23 pm »
Tune in to SpaceX CRS-19 Prelaunch News Conference

Danielle Sempsrott Posted on December 3, 2019

Tune in to NASA TV and the agency’s website at 1:30 p.m. EST today to watch the NASA Social What’s on Board science briefing, highlighting some of the research that will take place on CRS-19, airing from the agency’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Then, stay tuned for the prelaunch news conference, beginning at 4 p.m., and hear from officials with the International Space Station Program Science Office, SpaceX and the U.S. Air Force 45th Space Wing.

Launch of SpaceX’s 19th Commercial Resupply Services (CRS-19) mission to the International Space Station is scheduled for Wednesday, Dec. 4, at 12:51 p.m. EST. The company’s Falcon 9 rocket will lift off from Space Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, carrying the Dragon spacecraft that will deliver supplies, equipment and material to the space station. Dragon is slated to arrive at the station on Dec. 7 and will be captured by Expedition 61 crewmembers. Following capture, ground controllers will take over to install the spacecraft to the Harmony module’s Earth-facing port.

Learn more about some of the research and experiments taking place on CRS-19 at: https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/news/spx19-research

https://blogs.nasa.gov/spacex/2019/12/03/tune-in-to-spacex-crs-19-prelaunch-news-conference/

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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 4, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #66 on: 12/03/2019 08:36 pm »
Jessica said they are testing long coasting as we guessed, as she cant twlk anout who it is for im guessing its for the US air force and their GEO mission on Falcon heavy next year.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 4, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #67 on: 12/04/2019 01:19 am »
What is the longest FH-F9 second stage coast duration to date?

Wasn't FH Demo about 6 hours?

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T+5 hours 58 minutes. We're past perigee at 180 km and 7.8 km/s. The burn should be happening now.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 4, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #68 on: 12/04/2019 06:10 am »
Tim Dodd is doing his own CRS-19 live stream

https://twitter.com/erdayastronaut/status/1202078046473379842

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Join me tomorrow and let's watch @SpaceX send a Dragon Capsule to the ISS for @NASA! This will be the ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY exactly of CRS-16 which left a brand new Block 5 Falcon 9 booster a little wet! Let's see if SpaceX will nail this landing! -


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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 4, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #69 on: 12/04/2019 12:01 pm »
Live stream


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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 4, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #70 on: 12/04/2019 03:26 pm »
What exactly is a "thermal demonstration"? Any educated guesses?

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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 4, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #71 on: 12/04/2019 03:38 pm »
The elapsed time for the CRS-19 second stage reentry is not much shorter than the time to coast from LEO to GEO.
If and when I get the time it seems obvious to compare the delta-V of that ~6 degree plane change (guess:0.6 km/sec) to a GTO injection burn.
If we see a second stage deorbit burn it would indicate that this is a test of direct injection into GEO. Somewhat like the first Heavy launch.
What is the longest FH-F9 second stage coast duration to date?

Maybe, are they trying to demonstrate TLI capabilities for the Gateway logistics contract?

I'm curious if they are doing any burns after Dragon separation? 

Maybe raise the orbit then 6 hours later lower it for disposal. 

Without Dragon it would be so light it would really go places!
Starship, Vulcan and Ariane 6 have all reached orbit.  New Glenn, well we are waiting!

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What exactly is a "thermal demonstration"? Any educated guesses?
If you’re referring to the test to be performed with the upper stage, it’s demonstrating that the stage can maintain thermal control during an extended coast (e.g., not developing localized cold spots and fuel gelling, and not developing hot spots and increased oxidizer boil-off. Extended upper stage coasts are necessary for some mission profiles (specifically, direct GEO insertion missions for government payloads).
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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 5, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #74 on: 12/04/2019 04:11 pm »
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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 5, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #75 on: 12/04/2019 04:16 pm »
Has there been a previous SpaceX launch for NASA that scrubbed due to landing conditions rather than launch conditions?

It used to be that landing conditions did not have any impact on launching.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 5, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #76 on: 12/04/2019 04:20 pm »
Has there been a previous SpaceX launch for NASA that scrubbed due to landing conditions rather than launch conditions?

It used to be that landing conditions did not have any impact on launching.


SpX-17 was scrubbed because of a technical problem on the drone ship.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 4, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #77 on: 12/04/2019 04:27 pm »
What exactly is a "thermal demonstration"? Any educated guesses?
If you’re referring to the test to be performed with the upper stage, it’s demonstrating that the stage can maintain thermal control during an extended coast (e.g., not developing localized cold spots and fuel gelling, and not developing hot spots and increased oxidizer boil-off. Extended upper stage coasts are necessary for some mission profiles (specifically, direct GEO insertion missions for government payloads).
And this is different from what they had already demonstrated? Or just a continuation of the same?

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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 5, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #78 on: 12/04/2019 04:46 pm »
We've got a substantial number of worldwide orbital goings-on in succession coming up (as of this posting):

Dragon launches tomorrow

Electron launches from New Zealand on 12/6 UTC

Progress MS-13 launches from Baikonur on 12/6 UTC

2 KZ-1A launches from Taiyuan within 6 hours on 12/7 UTC

Dragon capture and berthing on 12/8 UTC

Progress MS-13 docks on 12/9 UTC

Another Glonass-M launches from Plesetsk on 12/10 UTC

RISAT-2BR1 launches from Sriharikota on 12/11 UTC
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Re: SpaceX F9 : CRS SpX-19 : December 5, 2019 - DISCUSSION
« Reply #79 on: 12/04/2019 05:21 pm »
Has there been a previous SpaceX launch for NASA that scrubbed due to landing conditions rather than launch conditions?

It used to be that landing conditions did not have any impact on launching.
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