Author Topic: 13 Minutes to the Moon (Read 15456 times)

Cheapchips · « **on:** 06/23/2019 06:37 pm »

The BBC World service have produced a short series on the Moon landing. I'm on the 2nd episode, "Kids in control", about mission control. Some really great interviews and anecdotes so far. Definitely worth a listen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w13xttx2/episodes/player

dglow · « **Reply #1 on:** 06/24/2019 03:50 am »

Second that. I've listened to all five (available) episodes and find it thoughtfully produced and well-constructed. The Hans Zimmer score feels a bit dramatic and over-used, but hey – they got Hans Zimmer!

Star One · « **Reply #2 on:** 06/24/2019 05:56 am »

On the second episode. Good series so far but agree the music is over dramatic.

Crispy · « **Reply #3 on:** 06/26/2019 08:33 pm »

Have caught up with all episodes so far (up to 7). This is a really good series. Thoroughly researched, seriously presented (with only the faintest smudge of the sort of over-dramatisation that spoils so many documentaries these days). Plenty of thoughtful interviews, all given space to breath and speak in their own voice.

PS: If there's any one event that deserves a bombastic Hans Zimmer score, this is it!

dglow · « **Reply #4 on:** 06/26/2019 08:52 pm »

Agree the score is deserved, but it is over-used.

The 13-bar 'big theme' is repeated at the top and bottom of each episode, with the ~20-bar 'quieter' (solo string) version always making at least one appearance too. Either Zimmer somehow mandated this level of utilization, or the BBC paid so much that they're trying to get their money's worth.

But this doesn't matter – the podcast is great.

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #5 on:** 02/24/2020 07:32 pm »

Series 2 concentrating on Apollo 13.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2020/13-minutes-to-the-moon-2

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #6 on:** 03/09/2020 07:46 am »

First episode of series 2 now available.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct0pc5

“Houston, we’ve had a problem.” To ignite catastrophe would take just the flick of a single switch. Why Nasa’s third bid to land on the Moon was flawed from the start.
#13MinutestotheMoon
For videos and more space stories: www.bbcworldservice.com/13minutes
Presented by Kevin Fong
Archive: Nasa and CBS
Starring:
Jim Lovell
Marilyn Lovell
Fred Haise
John Aaron
Gerry Griffin
Gene Kranz, courtesy of the Johnson Space Center Oral History Project
Charlie Duke
Jay Lovell
Sy Liebergot
Jack Lousma
Written by Kevin Fong and Andrew Luck-Baker
Theme music by Hans Zimmer and Christian Lundberg for Bleeding Fingers Music
BBC Radio Science Unit for the BBC World Service

dglow · « **Reply #7 on:** 03/09/2020 04:27 pm »

And it's great, too – some wonderful interviews. Well-done again, Kevin Fong!

I also like the reworking of the score.

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #8 on:** 03/16/2020 07:39 am »

Episode 2 now available.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct0pc6

S2 Ep.02 Death of the Odyssey
13 Minutes to the Moon
Apollo 13
Episode 2 of 6

“We were in deep, deep trouble.” This is Mission Control like you’ve never heard it before. After the explosion, denial and disbelief turn to dread.
#13MinutestotheMoon
Watch our videos: www.bbcworldservice.com/13minutes
Presented by Kevin Fong.
Archive: Nasa
Starring:
Jim Lovell
Jack Lousma
Gene Kranz, courtesy of the Johnson Space Center Oral History Project
Sy Liebergot
Bob Heselmeyer, courtesy of the Johnson Space Center Oral History Project
Fred Haise
John Aaron
Marilyn Lovell
Written by Kevin Fong and Andrew Luck-Baker
Theme music by Hans Zimmer and Christian Lundberg for Bleeding Fingers Music
BBC Radio Science Unit for the BBC World Service

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #9 on:** 03/16/2020 02:13 pm »

On the podcast there are audio interviews with Gene Kranz, courtesy of the Johnson Space Center Oral History Project. Searching the site, https://historycollection.jsc.nasa.gov/JSCHistoryPortal/history/oral_histories/KranzEF/kranzef.htm I can only find html or pdf versions. Does anyone know if the actual audio is available?

Thanks.

wholmeswa · « **Reply #10 on:** 03/16/2020 11:18 pm »

Podcast is a great format for this story.

In the last episode you can feel the anguish of the flight controllers more than when you also have video. (At least for me.)

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #11 on:** 03/23/2020 06:24 am »

Episode 3 now available.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct0pc7

S2 Ep.03 Lifeboat
13 Minutes to the Moon
Apollo 13
Episode 3 of 6

The astronauts are fighting for their lives. As the oxygen level plummets, they must escape to the lunar lander. It's a desperate act of survival for which the crew has never trained. #13MinutestotheMoon
See our film about the Lovell family: www.bbcworldservice.com/13minutes
Presented by Kevin Fong.
Archive: Nasa
Starring:
Glynn Lunney
Ken Mattingly (courtesy of the Johnson Space Center Oral History Project)
Merlin Merritt
Jim Lovell
John Aaron
Fred Haise
John Devaney
Jerry Bostick
Poppy Northcutt
George Kalan
Dave Reed
Chuck Deiterich
Marilyn Lovell
Susan Lovell
Jay Lovell
Written by Kevin Fong and Mark Rickards
Theme music by Hans Zimmer and Christian Lundberg for Bleeding Fingers Music
BBC Radio Science Unit for the BBC World Service

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #12 on:** 03/31/2020 03:53 am »

Episode 4 now available.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct0pc8

S2 Ep.04 Power brokers
13 Minutes to the Moon
Apollo 13
Episode 4 of 6

Power must be brutally rationed after the crew fly around the Moon. As systems are switched off, their cold, dark ship is reduced to little more than a husk coasting in space. #13MinutestotheMoon
Watch videos about the Apollo 13 mission: www.bbcworldservice.com/13minutes
Presented by Kevin Fong.
Archive: Nasa
Starring:
Gerry Griffin
Jim Kelly
Gene Kranz, courtesy of the Johnson Space Center Oral History Project
John Aaron
Jim Lovell
Fred Haise
Dave Reed
Jerry Bostick
Chuck Deiterich
Merlin Merritt
Bill Peters
Written by Kevin Fong and Mark Rickards
Theme music by Hans Zimmer and Christian Lundberg for Bleeding Fingers Music
BBC Radio Science Unit for the BBC World Service

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #13 on:** 04/06/2020 08:51 am »

Episode 5 now available.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct0pc9

S2 Ep.05 Life support
13 Minutes to the Moon
Apollo 13
Episode 5 of 6

“We were being poisoned by our own exhalation.” Carbon dioxide threatens to kill the crew. Mission control must improvise as the most fragile system of all is under threat: the astronauts themselves. #13MinutestotheMoon
For a film about how the crew made the makeshift CO2 adaptors: www.bbcworldservice.com/13minutes
Presented by Kevin Fong.
Archive: Nasa
Starring:
Jim Lovell
Merlin Merritt
Anthony England
Ed Smylie, courtesy of the Johnson Space Center Oral History Project
Fred Haise
Marilyn Lovell
Ken Mattingly
Charles A Berry
Joe Kerwin
Gerry Griffin
Written by Kevin Fong and Chris Browning
Theme music by Hans Zimmer and Christian Lundberg for Bleeding Fingers Music
BBC Radio Science Unit for the BBC World Service

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #14 on:** 04/06/2020 09:06 am »

The end of this video on making the CO2 adaptors was a bit emotional.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p088lv4g

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #15 on:** 04/12/2020 08:36 am »

Delay to Episode 7

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0894h2w

Producer Andrew Luck-Baker explains why the season finale will be delayed.

Kaputnik · « **Reply #16 on:** 04/12/2020 07:24 pm »

Thanks for the heads up. I thought the first series was absolutely superb, looking forward to catching up on this one.

Arb · « **Reply #17 on:** 04/12/2020 09:11 pm »

Quote from: SteveGoodey on 04/12/2020 08:36 am

Delay to Episode 7

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0894h2w

Producer Andrew Luck-Baker explains why the season finale will be delayed.

As you've done the spadework, the TL:DL is?

Pretty please.

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #18 on:** 04/12/2020 09:44 pm »

Dr. Kevin Fong, presenter and co-writer, has been away on more urgent business and so the completion of the series has been put on hold.

Let's hope he and his colleagues stay safe in their important work in these troubled times.

https://twitter.com/Kevin_Fong/status/1249268526055030789

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #19 on:** 04/13/2020 07:48 am »

Episode 6 now available.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct0pcb

S2 Ep.06 Earth in view
13 Minutes to the Moon
Apollo 13
Episode 6 of 6

The crew are off course, 200,000 miles from home and without a guidance computer. Their lives now depend on their flying skills - and Jim Lovell’s wristwatch. #13MinutestotheMoon
For more Apollo films and photos: www.bbcworldservice.com/13minutes
Presented by Kevin Fong.
Archive: Nasa
Starring
Chuck Deiterich
Jim Lovell
Poppy Northcutt
Fred Haise
Jim Kelly
John Aaron
Joe Kerwin
Written by Kevin Fong and Chris Browning
Theme music by Hans Zimmer and Christian Lundberg for Bleeding Fingers Music
BBC Radio Science Unit for the BBC World Service

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #20 on:** 04/16/2020 07:05 am »

S2 Bonus 01: Jim Lovell
13 Minutes to the Moon

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0894pk1

Special episode with Apollo 13 Commander Jim Lovell. An extended interview.
The true space pioneer talks to Kevin Fong about everything from the shocking moment of the explosion to the enormous relief of the splashdown.
#13MinutestotheMoon
Theme music by Hans Zimmer and Christian Lundberg for Bleeding Fingers Music

bkellysky · « **Reply #21 on:** 04/16/2020 09:24 pm »

Sorry to ask a simple question.
What is the '13 minutes' they are referring to?
I tried to figure it out on my own, then I went through Apollo: The Definitive Sourcebook. I see it's about 13 minutes from LM PDI to landing on Apollo 11. Is that it?
Sorry I haven't caught the series yet. Hope to soon.

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #22 on:** 04/16/2020 09:52 pm »

Yes, that's exactly it.

Quote

The BBC World Service has launched a special podcast series to mark the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 Moon landing. 13 Minutes to the Moon details the final phase of the descent to the lunar surface - and the months and years that led up to those extraordinary moments.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48232627

bkellysky · « **Reply #23 on:** 04/17/2020 01:01 am »

Quote from: SteveGoodey on 04/16/2020 09:52 pm

Yes, that's exactly it.

Quote
The BBC World Service has launched a special podcast series to mark the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 Moon landing. 13 Minutes to the Moon details the final phase of the descent to the lunar surface - and the months and years that led up to those extraordinary moments.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48232627

I looked for that and missed it. Thank you for your gentle direction.

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #24 on:** 04/17/2020 09:34 am »

S2 Bonus 02: John Aaron
13 Minutes to the Moon

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p089lxh8

Special episode with Nasa legend, flight controller John Aaron.
This extended interview ranges from John first learning about the explosion, to
his doubts and fears during Apollo 13¹s descent through the Earth¹s atmosphere.
#13MinutestotheMoon
Theme music by Hans Zimmer and Christian Lundberg for Bleeding Fingers Music

Oersted · « **Reply #25 on:** 04/17/2020 01:54 pm »

Quote from: SteveGoodey on 04/16/2020 07:05 am

S2 Bonus 01: Jim Lovell
13 Minutes to the Moon

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0894pk1

Special episode with Apollo 13 Commander Jim Lovell. An extended interview.
The true space pioneer talks to Kevin Fong about everything from the shocking moment of the explosion to the enormous relief of the splashdown.
#13MinutestotheMoon
Theme music by Hans Zimmer and Christian Lundberg for Bleeding Fingers Music

That was a good listen. Good to hear that Lovell is still fresh and sprightly at age 92.

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #26 on:** 04/18/2020 11:42 am »

13 Minutes to the Moon video clips.

Covering Apollo 1, 11 and 13.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w13xttx2/clips

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #27 on:** 06/08/2020 06:41 am »

Episode 7 now available

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct0v1r

S2 Ep.07 Resurrection
13 Minutes to the Moon
Apollo 13
Episode 7 of 7

“I still have nightmares about this.” Can the crew survive the dangers of re-entering the Earth’s atmosphere? An error could see them either incinerated or becoming lost forever in deep space. #13MinutestotheMoon
For more Apollo films and photos: www.bbcworldservice.com/13minutes
Presented by Kevin Fong.
Archive: Nasa
Starring
Jim Lovell
John Aaron
Dave Reed
Hal Loden
Jerry Bostick
Jim Kelly
Fred Haise
Charlie Duke
Joe Kerwin
Gene Kranz, courtesy of the Johnson Space Center Oral History Project
Chuck Dietrich
Marilyn Lovell
Gerry Griffin
Written by Kevin Fong and Andrew Luck-Baker
Theme music by Hans Zimmer and Christian Lundberg for Bleeding Fingers Music
BBC Radio Science Unit for the BBC World Service

Blackstar · « **Reply #28 on:** 03/24/2023 07:33 pm »

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/16-sunsets-podcast/sixteen-sunsets-podcast

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #29 on:** 03/25/2023 02:41 pm »

Thanks very much for posting this, wasn't aware.

Blackstar · « **Reply #30 on:** 03/27/2023 04:04 pm »

Meanwhile, the BBC is now producing the third season of the podcast as well. I was interviewed by them a few weeks ago at the Air Force museum for season 3. It focuses on shuttle.

Blackstar · « **Reply #31 on:** 04/08/2023 08:40 pm »

Only 6 days left and they are not even one third of the way to their goal. That is disappointing.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/16-sunsets-podcast/sixteen-sunsets-podcast

Hog · « **Reply #32 on:** 04/14/2023 02:36 pm »

bump

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/16-sunsets-podcast/sixteen-sunsets-podcast

21 hours left and about 88% of the way to their goal.

Go for 16 sunsets.

Blackstar · « **Reply #33 on:** 04/14/2023 02:53 pm »

They still need $14,000. My understanding of Kickstarter is that if they do not reach that goal, none of the backers gets charged, and then they need to do the whole thing over again. Is that true?

I backed them yesterday, even though I've done interviews for season 3 of "13 Minutes to the Moon." The more the merrier.

AnthonyA · « **Reply #34 on:** 04/14/2023 08:19 pm »

Both series of "13 Minutes To The Moon" were excellent. I can highly recommend them, and if Blackstar liked them, they can't be bad.

Please help these guys with their new project.

AnthonyA · « **Reply #35 on:** 04/15/2023 11:20 am »

They did it! Go 16 Sunsets!

(Worriedly checks how much he donated).

Blackstar · « **Reply #36 on:** 04/15/2023 12:22 pm »

£97,255 pledged of £93,880 goal

Star One · « **Reply #37 on:** 05/18/2023 07:14 am »

The third season of this series will be looking at the story of the Space Shuttle, before that will be a live show with Shuttle astronaut Kay Hire.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0fnsr4s?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

Blackstar · « **Reply #38 on:** 05/10/2024 10:51 pm »

I got an update about 16 Sunsets. See image. Not sure if I am allowed to share the link, so I did not.

Still have not heard anything about the third season of 13 Minutes (the one I was interviewed for in March 2023).

Although everybody and their dog now has a podcast, somebody told me that the ad revenue for podcasts has taken a big hit recently. So that might be hurting the BBC one.

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #39 on:** 05/11/2024 07:18 am »

Quote from: Blackstar on 05/10/2024 10:51 pm

I got an update about 16 Sunsets. See image. Not sure if I am allowed to share the link, so I did not.

Still have not heard anything about the third season of 13 Minutes (the one I was interviewed for in March 2023).

Although everybody and their dog now has a podcast, somebody told me that the ad revenue for podcasts has taken a big hit recently. So that might be hurting the BBC one.

I think the 13 minutes third series and the sixteen sunsets are one and the same? Unless I'm missing something!

Steve.

Blackstar · « **Reply #40 on:** 05/11/2024 11:52 am »

Quote from: SteveGoodey on 05/11/2024 07:18 am

Quote from: Blackstar on 05/10/2024 10:51 pm
I got an update about 16 Sunsets. See image. Not sure if I am allowed to share the link, so I did not.

Still have not heard anything about the third season of 13 Minutes (the one I was interviewed for in March 2023).

Although everybody and their dog now has a podcast, somebody told me that the ad revenue for podcasts has taken a big hit recently. So that might be hurting the BBC one.

I think the 13 minutes third series and the sixteen sunsets are one and the same? Unless I'm missing something!

Steve.

No. The narrator Kevin Fong, and at least one producer, worked on 13 Minutes for two seasons. They then left BBC and started this new podcast, 16 Sunsets. Meanwhile, BBC decided to continue 13 Minutes for a third season with a new producer and without Kevin Fong. They are both essentially covering the same subject, the space shuttle. I was told that 13 Minutes was going to cover the shuttle up to STS-27.

SteveGoodey · « **Reply #41 on:** 05/11/2024 03:58 pm »

Quote from: Blackstar on 05/11/2024 11:52 am

Quote from: SteveGoodey on 05/11/2024 07:18 am
Quote from: Blackstar on 05/10/2024 10:51 pm
I got an update about 16 Sunsets. See image. Not sure if I am allowed to share the link, so I did not.

Still have not heard anything about the third season of 13 Minutes (the one I was interviewed for in March 2023).

Although everybody and their dog now has a podcast, somebody told me that the ad revenue for podcasts has taken a big hit recently. So that might be hurting the BBC one.

I think the 13 minutes third series and the sixteen sunsets are one and the same? Unless I'm missing something!

Steve.

No. The narrator Kevin Fong, and at least one producer, worked on 13 Minutes for two seasons. They then left BBC and started this new podcast, 16 Sunsets. Meanwhile, BBC decided to continue 13 Minutes for a third season with a new producer and without Kevin Fong. They are both essentially covering the same subject, the space shuttle. I was told that 13 Minutes was going to cover the shuttle up to STS-27.

So I was missing something.

Thanks very much for that, interesting.

laszlo · « **Reply #42 on:** 05/15/2024 12:13 pm »

Quote from: wholmeswa on 03/16/2020 11:18 pm

Podcast is a great format for this story.

In the last episode you can feel the anguish of the flight controllers more than when you also have video. (At least for me.)

It's an excellent format for another reason. One of my biggest gripes with pretty much every space documentary is the use of stock footage from other flights for scenes where there was no footage. For example, the Apollo 4 staging film has been shown as every Saturn V ever launched and then some. While in that case the producers are probably using the only available footage as a typical representation, there are many documentaries where the wrong NASA footage is dropped in even though footage exists for the actual event. One of the most egregious examples was a documentary using Apollo 16 lunar EVA footage for Apollo 17. With an audio podcast that doesn't happen.

Wonderful series.