For All Mankind

[Helodriver]

People seem to forget there is already a 1982 documentary about a fully functional Lunar Shuttle concept.

[libra]

Have you seen a grown man naked ?

[the_other_Doug]

Have you seen a grown man naked ?

Tell me, Jimmy, do you like... gladiator movies?

[libra]

Looks I took the wrong day to stop sniffing glue ! 

[FutureSpaceTourist]

"For All Mankind" is a TV show built around an alternate history of the space race, and the trailer for season 2 includes one shot showing a space shuttle far enough from the Earth that it looks like it's coming back from the moon:
...
So, let's do the math and figure out what it would take to send a Space Shuttle to the moon, and why it's a really bad idea.
The Space Shuttle orbiter model is part of the ReDirect mod for Kerbal Space program.

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/djsnm/status/1292206552024154112

After seeing the trailer for season two of ‘For All Mankind’ (@forallmankind_) I had to run the numbers on sending shuttle orbiters to the moon. Curious as to what @astro_g_dogg thinks. How To Send A Space Shuttle To The Moon

twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/1292325421321617408

Just watched your video with my family and we are very impressed!You are absolutely correct that the Space Shuttle had insufficient delta V to reach LLO, needs cargo bay doors open for heat rejection and better TPS for entry. Watch Season 2 of @forallmankind_ carefully 4 answers!

https://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/1292326852065804290

Sorry to be evasive but I can’t reveal any Season Two details until it airs. Afterwards I think it would be real cool to film a discussion with you, @MikeOkuda @RonDMoore and other members of our @forallmankind_ creative team and get into all this and more.

[Jarnis]

Good to hear that perhaps they haven't gone full dumb making that series after having a fairly good first season. So this implies they have an explanation of some sort, I guess.

[FutureSpaceTourist]

 

https://twitter.com/macrumors/status/1295451756676042752

‘For All Mankind’ Season 2 Filming Again Underway macrumors.com/2020/08/17/app… by @julipuli

[QuantumG]

Good to hear that perhaps they haven't gone full dumb making that series after having a fairly good first season. So this implies they have an explanation of some sort, I guess.

The good explanation is "we didn't do that and we have no idea why you thought we did".

[Blackstar]

"It had two episodes left to shoot from its Season 2 order when production shut down industrywide in mid-March.
I hear filming on the remaining two episodes started today on the Sony lot in Culver City."

https://deadline.com/2020/08/for-all-mankind-apple-drama-series-resumes-production-season-2-1203015468/

[Blackstar]

https://thespacereview.com/article/4044/1

In the paler moonlight: the future’s past in “For All Mankind”
by Dwayne A. Day
Monday, October 12, 2020

Note: This article contains spoilers for the first and second seasons of For All Mankind.

The second season of Apple TV+’s “For All Mankind” was filming when reality intervened, halting production after eight episodes had been shot, although production resumed late in the summer. For a show about world events to be derailed by a world event is perhaps overly ironic, but despite the delay, the producers did release a trailer for season two, and it indicates that things are heating up on the Moon.

“For All Mankind” started with an interesting idea: what if the Soviet Union beat the United States to the Moon? From that premise the writers strung out an interesting sequence of events, changing some parts of history while keeping others. Doing so also allowed them to explore different aspects of American culture and, whether they intended to or not, engage in some fascinating cultural and historical analysis (see “Wasn’t the future wonderful?” The Space Review, March 9, 2020).

The first season ended with a time jump ten years in the future, indicating that not only has the United States maintained its lunar south pole base, known as “Jamestown,” but has continued to support its expansion. The season two trailer and some comments by the actors indicate that some of the characters have advanced, and others may have had some setbacks. Margo Madison, the first female flight controller, who blackmailed her way through the glass ceiling, is now a top NASA official (center director? Administrator?). Senior astronaut Ed Baldwin may have been relegated to non-flying status. His longtime friend and flight partner, Gordo Stevens, who suffered a nervous breakdown on the Moon that his colleagues concealed, may have fared worse. Danielle Poole, the first black female astronaut, made a major sacrifice to save Gordo, but may have crippled her career as well: her self-inflicted injury on the Moon would have left everybody at NASA questioning her fortitude and fitness—everybody except Ed and Gordo, who know she did it to justify returning Gordo to Earth and concealing his breakdown.

Although it has advanced the characters, season two’s time jump has meant that many of the plot elements left open in the season finale are not going to be picked up and developed. For example, Baldwin and his wife lost their son in a car accident while Ed was on the Moon, but instead of seeing them deal with their grief, we will see them ten years after this event. During a recent interview, Joel Kinnaman, who plays Baldwin, said that the time jump presented a problem for him. He knew that his character had to work through the loss of his son, as well as his failings as a father that may have contributed to it, but he didn’t know how Baldwin did so, making it difficult to play someone who had suffered a grave wound that never completely healed over.

[Ronpur50]

Season 2 begins February 19, 2021

[Ronpur50]

My patches from the show and my new model of the Apollo 11 "landing"

[Blackstar]

New press photo.

[Blackstar]

Mission patches for season 2 of "For All Mankind"

http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-120320a-apple-for-all-mankind-season-two-patches.html

Note that there are some (minor) spoilers there, so don't click if you're trying to avoid any spoilers.

[Blackstar]

https://deadline.com/2020/12/for-all-mankind-renewed-season-3-apple-tv-aead-of-season-2-premiere-1234651799/amp/

 ‘For All Mankind’ Renewed For Season 3 By Apple Ahead Of Season 2 Premiere

    Nellie Andreeva
    December 8, 2020 9:15AM PST

EXCLUSIVE: For All Mankind is getting another early renewal. Apple TV+ has ordered a third season of the alt-history Space Race drama from Ronald D. Moore and Sony Pictures Television. The renewal comes more than two months before the series’ Season 2 global premiere on February 19. Production on the new season is slated to begin next spring.

For All Mankind‘s second season was picked up ahead of the show’s November 2019 series debut. It recently wrapped production, which had been interrupted by the coronavirus pandemic. The sci-fi drama had two episodes left to shoot from its ten-episode Season 2 order when filming shut down industrywide in mid-March. For All Mankind was among the first scripted series to resume production in August.

[Blackstar]

[RoadWithoutEnd]

Beautiful show.  Even though I wasn't alive for Apollo, I've had dreams about different outcomes where it kept going.  The show is very inspiring.  Hopefully in future seasons (knock on wood) they'll dive into more of the economic and industrial issues being confronted in today's spaceflight, rather than sticking with the purely political.

Is there a thread somewhere for more detailed discussion of hypotheticals like the show deals with?

[rdale]

Season 2...

[Blackstar]

Note that there is dialogue in the trailer referring to a new space shuttle "Pathfinder" that is three times as powerful as the other shuttles (for various definitions of "powerful" I guess).