Author Topic: For All Mankind (Read 227813 times)

Wicky · « **Reply #220 on:** 02/09/2020 06:39 pm »

Quote from: sanman on 02/08/2020 05:28 pm

You mean moondust can go projectile in the lunar vacuum? Would that also be the case on Mars, where there's slightly more atmosphere?

And yet you'd think that it mostly wouldn't be a direct transfer of exhaust kinetics, and that most of that would be bounced off the ground.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/17/18663203/apollo-11-anniversary-moon-dust-landing-high-speed

Thanks to what we’ve learned from the Apollo missions, engineers have found that a large lander about the size of the Apollo Lunar Module — capable of spewing out gas at around 2,400 meters per second — can propel rocks and gravel-sized particles up to 10 to 100 meters per second, sending them tremendous distances (up to six football fields away). But the fine dust and sand can speed up to 1,000 meters per second, propelling them hundreds of kilometers away — or even distributing them all over the Moon.

cebri · « **Reply #221 on:** 02/12/2020 11:30 am »

Quote from: Wicky on 02/09/2020 06:39 pm

Quote from: sanman on 02/08/2020 05:28 pm
You mean moondust can go projectile in the lunar vacuum? Would that also be the case on Mars, where there's slightly more atmosphere?

And yet you'd think that it mostly wouldn't be a direct transfer of exhaust kinetics, and that most of that would be bounced off the ground.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/17/18663203/apollo-11-anniversary-moon-dust-landing-high-speed

Thanks to what we’ve learned from the Apollo missions, engineers have found that a large lander about the size of the Apollo Lunar Module — capable of spewing out gas at around 2,400 meters per second — can propel rocks and gravel-sized particles up to 10 to 100 meters per second, sending them tremendous distances (up to six football fields away). But the fine dust and sand can speed up to 1,000 meters per second, propelling them hundreds of kilometers away — or even distributing them all over the Moon.

https://scholarsmine.mst.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2931&context=icchge

https://sciences.ucf.edu/class/landing-team/modeling-methods-to-predict-plume-effects/

Oersted · « **Reply #222 on:** 02/12/2020 04:35 pm »

Could the plume effects be an argument for landing inside craters?

Wicky · « **Reply #223 on:** 02/12/2020 09:52 pm »

Possibly - if after landing you can get in and out of the crater to explore / do astronaut stuff

Ronpur50 · « **Reply #224 on:** 04/10/2020 08:52 pm »

I decided to build a model of the repair scene of Apollo 24 by Apollo 25. The paint scheme is based on what is shown in the episode. The yellow ground service ring is shown in the episode, so I painted it on. The astronauts are little 3D printed figures and their tether lines are dental floss. I can rotate them to show the accident, but the crew members are fixed.

Thorny · « **Reply #225 on:** 04/10/2020 11:57 pm »

Heads up!

Apple has made some of their programming available for free due to the COVOD-19 crisis.
This includes FOR ALL MANKIND.

https://9to5mac.com/2020/04/09/apple-tv-plus-stream-for-free/

mme · « **Reply #226 on:** 04/30/2020 05:27 pm »

Looks like someone at Dynetics watches For All Man Kind.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-selects-blue-origin-dynetics-spacex-for-artemis-human-landers

(clearly just kidding, but it did remind me of FAM.)

chetan_chpd · « **Reply #227 on:** 05/04/2020 04:30 am »

Quote from: mme on 04/30/2020 05:27 pm

Looks like someone at Dynetics watches For All Man Kind.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-selects-blue-origin-dynetics-spacex-for-artemis-human-landers

(clearly just kidding, but it did remind me of FAM.)

dglow · « **Reply #228 on:** 05/04/2020 05:41 am »

Wow, that's uncanny – even closer than I remembered.

Is it possible the show runners were in contact with folks who knew folks from Dynetics/SNC?

TrevorMonty · « **Reply #229 on:** 05/04/2020 12:04 pm »

Quote from: chetan_chpd on 05/04/2020 04:30 am

Quote from: mme on 04/30/2020 05:27 pm
Looks like someone at Dynetics watches For All Man Kind.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-selects-blue-origin-dynetics-spacex-for-artemis-human-landers

(clearly just kidding, but it did remind me of FAM.)

Would've needed a crasher stage to do the deorbit burn. Tanks on habitat only big enough for final landing burn.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #230 on:** 05/07/2020 06:00 pm »

https://twitter.com/astro_g_dogg/status/1258109278520512514

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The entire world we build on @ForAllMankind_ is captivating! Let me take you on a tour of our Jamestown base to see what life is like for our astronauts on the moon in #ForAllMankind. @AppleTV

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #231 on:** 05/09/2020 07:09 pm »

https://twitter.com/krysmarshall/status/1259166079022055424

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The girls of @forallmankind_ and I are doing an Instagram live chat and Q&A! This Monday @ 3Pt/6Et! Tune into @TheRealShantel IG page to see us all talk about the show, gab about life on set, and what we’re all up to during the quarantine.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #232 on:** 07/25/2020 08:36 pm »

There’s a season 2 trailer on IMBD:

https://www.imdb.com/video/vi1182187033?playlistId=tt7772588&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi

Ronald Reagan is President, there are astronauts with guns ... and shots of the space shuttle including BEO

Edit to add: couple more screenshots including interesting fortified(?) moon base

Steve G · « **Reply #233 on:** 07/25/2020 09:00 pm »

Hence the term "creative license"(on steroids).

Steve G · « **Reply #234 on:** 07/25/2020 09:05 pm »

Hopefully, they will leave the Moon Nazis out of it. (Pic from Iron Sky).

Blackstar · « **Reply #235 on:** 07/25/2020 09:13 pm »

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #236 on:** 07/25/2020 10:17 pm »

Trailer for season 2 is right at the end of:

Coastal Ron · « **Reply #237 on:** 07/26/2020 12:14 am »

I'm assuming Season 2 will come out just after my free one year subscription runs out...

sanman · « **Reply #238 on:** 07/26/2020 03:20 pm »

So it seems like each season chronicles a particular decade in relation to space.
Interesting choice of 80s music.

I don't get why they're watching Reagan on a 70s TV set instead of a Japanese TV set.

But we can see it's the Shuttle era, which has not been bypassed. I'm wondering what the rationale is for NASA developing the Space Shuttle, when so much is happening on the Moon. Does the Saturn V assembly line still exist even while the Space Shuttle is being flown reusably? Or has the Space Shuttle somehow been adapted to facilitate lunar operations?

And what about the Soviet space program? Are they still using N-1, or are they now using their own space shuttle, like Buran?
We can see that a superpower showdown is is coming to a head on the Moon.
We also see that NASA has been militarized.
Presumably, they're fighting over the water that's on the Moon, which is its most precious resource.
As for the idea of using rifles in space (or on the Moon), I realize it's Hollywood, but that then opens up a can of worms on how you do an arms race on the Moon.
How would you limit a war to just rifles? Are they automatic, or semi-automatic?

I would have thought the superpowers would have some kind of treaty in place for the Moon, just as with Antarctica, to avoid the burden of competition there.

Steve G · « **Reply #239 on:** 07/26/2020 06:53 pm »

It's alternative history fiction, and fiction requires a conflict(s) to be resolved. Unfortunately, the writers left their engineering hats in the trunk of their car when putting this together. Like watching The Martian, just enjoy for what it is and leave reality at the door.