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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #200 on: 07/21/2020 08:46 pm »

Also, there is one more case:
GovSat-1 (SES-16), Jan 31, 2018 - which was reported as a successful simulated landing (ASDS)
So, my guess - SpaceX just count this case as well.

I doubt it. In that case you could count most of the other missions where they intentionally landed in the ocean.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #201 on: 07/21/2020 08:51 pm »
I keep seeing it repeated that this was the 57th Falcon booster landing.  I'm counting 56, even if you include the Falcon Heavy Flight 2 Core B1055.1, which landed on OSCILY, but subsequently toppled and was lost.  I see 56 on a couple of other tracking sites as well.

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Here is what I have in my spreadsheet for successful landings:
Falcon 9
ASDS = 36
RTLS = 13
Falcon Heavy
Sides, RTLS = 6
Cores, ASDS = 1 (the transportation failed, but the landing itself was a success)

Also, there is one more case:
GovSat-1 (SES-16), Jan 31, 2018 - which was reported as a successful simulated landing (ASDS)
So, my guess - SpaceX just count this case as well.

Don't see why they would've only just started counting it as a landing. On Starlink L4 they were hyping up it was gonna be landing #50. It didn't land so when CRS-20 landed they made sure people knew it was landing #50. They've very likely just miscounted for this mission and aren't doing some weird changing of counting.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #202 on: 07/21/2020 09:52 pm »
One of our writers speculated that maybe they wrote up the stat sheet before the Starlink mission got delayed.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #203 on: 07/21/2020 09:53 pm »
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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #204 on: 07/22/2020 02:24 am »
https://twitter.com/spacexfleet/status/1285649781398941704

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Ms. Tree and Ms. Chief will be arriving at Port Canaveral between 3:30 - 5am EDT overnight tonight.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #205 on: 07/22/2020 05:41 am »
Both right on the edge ...

twitter.com/spacex/status/1285632260721573890

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Videos of yesterday’s catch of both fairing halves

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1285632635335782401

Edit to add: videos attached

Those look very much like one of the halves photographed from the front and back.
The motion and location appears identical but reversed.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #206 on: 07/22/2020 07:29 am »
https://twitter.com/spacexfleet/status/1285838515696263168

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Ms. Tree and Ms. Chief are inbound to Port Canaveral.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #207 on: 07/22/2020 07:39 am »
For people not familiar with cricket, a "Hat Trick" is when the bowler gets three batters out in a row. Here it is referring to three catches (Falcon 9 first stage and two fairing halves), which is one way of getting a batter out. The term is also used in ice hockey (three goals in a match by one player) and baseball.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hat--trick
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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #208 on: 07/22/2020 08:17 am »
Both right on the edge ...

twitter.com/spacex/status/1285632260721573890

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Videos of yesterday’s catch of both fairing halves

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1285632635335782401

Edit to add: videos attached

Those look very much like one of the halves photographed from the front and back.
The motion and location appears identical but reversed.

Except of course that the timestamps are 3 mins apart...
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #209 on: 07/22/2020 08:47 am »
https://twitter.com/kyle_m_photo/status/1285858606500503552

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The sisters have returned and I count two intact fairing. #SpaceXFleet #SpaceX @SpaceXFleet

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #210 on: 07/22/2020 08:48 am »
https://twitter.com/therealjonvh/status/1285856272571674625

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#GoMsTree has entered the port and is reversing into the SpaceX docks.

#SpaceXFleet

https://twitter.com/therealjonvh/status/1285857661666430976

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#GoMsChief has now joined her sister and is also reversing into the SpaceX docks. #SpaceXFleet

Photos shortly.

twitter.com/star_shattered/status/1285858058795659265

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The sisters have arrived! Their very first dual catch of the fairings from #SpaceX #ANASIS2 launch. #SpaceXFleet Go Ms Tree

https://twitter.com/star_shattered/status/1285859072051482624

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And GO Ms Chief!
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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #211 on: 07/22/2020 08:52 am »
https://twitter.com/star_shattered/status/1285859863546003457

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And we have it! Both sisters arrive back at Port after catching BOTH fairing halves. Welcome back! And a major congrats to the team! #SpaceX #SpaceXFleet #ANASIS2

https://twitter.com/spacexfleet/status/1285860112498864133

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The triumphant twins make history with the first ever double recovery, breaking yet once again, another milestone for @SpaceX

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https://twitter.com/eg0911/status/1285859996799045633

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Ms. Tree and Ms. Chief have returned to Port Canaveral. Both fairing look intact under the tarps. No foam sacks visible on deck. #SpaceX #SpaceXFleet
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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #212 on: 07/22/2020 10:44 am »
First stage and fairing recoveries...pretty amazing!!

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #213 on: 07/22/2020 11:07 am »
Both right on the edge ...
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Videos of yesterday’s catch of both fairing halves
Those look very much like one of the halves photographed from the front and back.
The motion and location appears identical but reversed.
Except of course that the timestamps are 3 mins apart...
Of course one of the cameras' clocks *could* be mis-set.
Can someone with better bandwidth (mumble, mumble, oversubscribed DLS, can't even load a short full-res video) say if there are other distinguishing features (slight differences in rigging or in the motion of the fairing halves)?
Both parachutes are similarly striped, both halves are caught on the port edge of the net, and both ships are turning left at the time.  (Is the first ship, the one with the forward facing camera, turning less rapidly?)

Edit: I finally got a good look, and in addition to different "fairing wallowing behavior" mentioned below by XenIneX, I see that the lower nets are positioned differently, and that's not just an issue of camera height -- in the video of the aft-facing cameras from both ships shown during the webcast, the different lower net positions are clear.  Funny that they both landed on the port edge of their nets, but I'm convinced they've shown us both landings.
« Last Edit: 07/22/2020 06:13 pm by kdhilliard »

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #214 on: 07/22/2020 02:06 pm »
For people not familiar with cricket, a "Hat Trick" is when the bowler gets three batters out in a row. Here it is referring to three catches (Falcon 9 first stage and two fairing halves), which is one way of getting a batter out. The term is also used in ice hockey (three goals in a match by one player) and baseball.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hat--trick
You need a better dictionary.  In baseball, a single, double, triple, and home run in the same game is called "hitting for the cycle", not a hat trick.  Unlike other sports, a hat trick in baseball has the negative traditional meaning of striking out three times in one game.  In the SpaceX case then a hat trick would be missing all three parts - no rocket and neither of the two fairing haves.  More recently, some folks have used "hat trick" in baseball to refer to hitting three runs in one game, more in line with other sports.

See Hat trick from Wikipedia.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #215 on: 07/22/2020 02:25 pm »
For people not familiar with cricket, a "Hat Trick" is when the bowler gets three batters out in a row. Here it is referring to three catches (Falcon 9 first stage and two fairing halves), which is one way of getting a batter out. The term is also used in ice hockey (three goals in a match by one player) and baseball.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hat--trick
You need a better dictionary.  In baseball, a single, double, triple, and home run in the same game is called "hitting for the cycle", not a hat trick.  Unlike other sports, a hat trick in baseball has the negative traditional meaning of striking out three times in one game.  In the SpaceX case then a hat trick would be missing all three parts - no rocket and neither of the two fairing haves.  More recently, some folks have used "hat trick" in baseball to refer to hitting three runs in one game, more in line with other sports.

See Hat trick from Wikipedia.

In hockey a hat trick is a player scoring 3 goals in 1 game.  Then fans through out the arena throw their hats on the ice.

I love learning about the cricket explanation.  However, what are they going to call a FH launch that recovers 3 boosters and 2 fairing halves?
Starship, Vulcan and Ariane 6 have all reached orbit.  New Glenn, well we are waiting!

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #216 on: 07/22/2020 02:44 pm »
For people not familiar with cricket, a "Hat Trick" is when the bowler gets three batters out in a row. Here it is referring to three catches (Falcon 9 first stage and two fairing halves), which is one way of getting a batter out. The term is also used in ice hockey (three goals in a match by one player) and baseball.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hat--trick
You need a better dictionary.  In baseball, a single, double, triple, and home run in the same game is called "hitting for the cycle", not a hat trick.  Unlike other sports, a hat trick in baseball has the negative traditional meaning of striking out three times in one game.  In the SpaceX case then a hat trick would be missing all three parts - no rocket and neither of the two fairing haves.  More recently, some folks have used "hat trick" in baseball to refer to hitting three runs in one game, more in line with other sports.

See Hat trick from Wikipedia.

In hockey a hat trick is a player scoring 3 goals in 1 game.  Then fans through out the arena throw their hats on the ice.

I love learning about the cricket explanation.  However, what are they going to call a FH launch that recovers 3 boosters and 2 fairing halves?

A full house. Literally.  :o
« Last Edit: 07/22/2020 02:46 pm by intelati »
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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #217 on: 07/22/2020 02:58 pm »
Not hanging around

https://twitter.com/julia_bergeron/status/1285935591121616896

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The fairing halves were just offloaded and appear to have already left Port Canaveral to be processed at the SpaceX facility on Cape. Mission accomplished.
#SpaceXFleet

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https://twitter.com/ken_kremer/status/1285929837417431040

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2nd fairing half just hoisted off #GoMstree 845 am from #Spacex #AnasisII. More soon
« Last Edit: 07/22/2020 03:03 pm by FutureSpaceTourist »

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #218 on: 07/22/2020 03:55 pm »
Both right on the edge ...
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Videos of yesterday’s catch of both fairing halves
Those look very much like one of the halves photographed from the front and back.
The motion and location appears identical but reversed.
Except of course that the timestamps are 3 mins apart...
Of course one of the cameras' clocks *could* be mis-set.
Can someone with better bandwidth (mumble, mumble, oversubscribed DLS, can't even load a short full-res video) say if there are other distinguishing features (slight differences in rigging or in the motion of the fairing halves)?
Both parachutes are similarly striped, both halves are caught on the port edge of the net, and both ships are turning left at the time.  (Is the first ship, the one with the forward facing camera, turning less rapidly?)

Synced (as best I could, given the video quality) to the moment the fairings touch the net.  Looks to me like they wallow in the net differently as they settle in.
« Last Edit: 07/22/2020 03:58 pm by XenIneX »

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Re: SpaceX F9 : ANASIS-II : July 20, 2020
« Reply #219 on: 07/22/2020 04:59 pm »
https://twitter.com/ken_kremer/status/1285962688477224960

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All aboard for Fairing Express Train! 1st Time #SpaceX recovers both payload fairing halves from same nose cone & intact to boot! #Falcon9 #AnasisII launch Jul20
Lined up 1 by 1 in row w/rigging net-and end to end look inside to acoustic liners @PortCanaveral #GoMsTree #GoMsChief

https://twitter.com/ken_kremer/status/1285980416118272002

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Pt 1: 2nd fairing half hoisted 845 AM ET this morning off #GoMsTree onto cradled transporter-from #SpaceX #AnasisII #Falcon9 launch Jul 20. Both fairing halves caught mid-air by net 1st time ever from same nose cone. Arrived back @PortCanaveral overnight. more upcoming

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