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Viasat
« on: 02/08/2019 02:15 pm »
It's hard to keep track of Viasat 3 in our current forum structure without a dedicated thread.

https://spacenews.com/viasat-orders-asia-pacific-viasat-3-from-boeing-amid-record-revenue/

The third Viasat 3 satellite has been ordered for the Asia/Pacific region.  All of the Viasat 3 launches now planned for 2021-2022, probably for the Americas, then EMEA, then Apac.  We don't know yet what order the three contracted launch providers (Arianespace, ULA, SpaceX) will be used.


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Re: Viasat
« Reply #1 on: 02/09/2019 02:28 am »
While it's rare to find oneself positively citing The Motley Post, they published a great transcript of Viasat's Q4 2018 earnings call. Launch situation is a bit more complicated, 2020 is still possible but they are making it clear that early 2021 is increasingly likely.

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Based on our existing Ku and Ka-band global network, combined with the progress on the first two ViaSat-3 satellites and now having executed a third Asia-Pacific satellite agreement with Boeing, we believe we are well positioned to capture a good portion of the global market.

We continue to make significant capital investments into the ViaSat-3 constellations and are making good progress on the production of the first two, the Americas and Europe, Middle East Africa satellite. We're well into the manufacturing stage. The first ViaSat-3 class satellite is targeted to launch late calendar 2020 to early 2021. Some scheduled phases of the first satellite program are taking longer while others have shortened. On balance, an early 2021 launch is more likely now than it was last fall, which would be a little later than previously anticipated.

[The] schedule includes multiple phases: some phases have lengthened, some we're doing better. Obviously, we're trying to shorten the future phases to the extent we can and I would think of it more as a probability distribution than I would a point estimate and so what we've said is that probability distribution has shifted a few months more (ph) into early '21.

https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-transcripts/2019/02/08/viasat-inc-vsat-q3-2019-earnings-conference-call-t.aspx
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Re: Viasat
« Reply #2 on: 06/19/2019 02:01 am »
SAT-MOD-20190617-00047

Viasat made an FCC filing to request an extension of their milestones for the first Viasat-3 satellite at 88.9 degrees West (their FCC milestone date for bringing the satellite into operation was today, they filed for the license in 2014.)  It's been obvious for a long time that they wouldn't meet that date.  I guess there's really no reason to amend the filing earlier than you have to.

They cite problems with a vendor that has delayed construction of the satellite a little bit (details are redacted), and mention they'll have spent 80% of the money towards constructing it by the end of this month.  They give this updated schedule:

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More specifically, Viasat anticipates that the payload will be integrated by Boeing by September 5, 2020, launched by May 29, 2021, and the system will be operational by December 31, 2021. Viasat believes that the requested extension will accommodate unanticipated delays that may occur.

Dry mass of satellite is 5000kg, area is 220 square meters.  Third satellite still targeting launch by second half of 2022.

It will be interesting to see what order they use the launch contracts.  I'm going to guess ULA goes first, then the others depend on when Ariane 6 is actually ready.

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #3 on: 08/16/2019 04:13 am »
https://corpblog.viasat.com/real-time-earth/

Viasat planning to use the Viasat-3 birds to relay data from LEO sats to ground stations.  Not great for real-time comms but fine for earth observation, IOT, etc.

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #4 on: 08/16/2019 04:49 pm »
https://corpblog.viasat.com/real-time-earth/

Viasat planning to use the Viasat-3 birds to relay data from LEO sats to ground stations.  Not great for real-time comms but fine for earth observation, IOT, etc.
GEO sats aren't great choice for gamers but fine for watching video streaming eg  Youtube and Netflix.

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #5 on: 08/17/2019 01:46 am »
https://corpblog.viasat.com/real-time-earth/

Viasat planning to use the Viasat-3 birds to relay data from LEO sats to ground stations.  Not great for real-time comms but fine for earth observation, IOT, etc.

The point of the brand is near realtime relay though, trying be a crosslink-as-a-service offering for the loads of cubesats that might already be using timeshare ground station networks but still facing coverage holes. That's something an RF based crosslink can easily provide, compared to optical crosslinks that effectively are hardwired to a given constellation.

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #6 on: 08/12/2020 04:25 am »
In their quarterly report Viasat said that the first Viasat 3 payload is nearing completion, has been slowed a little this year, could ship to Boeing around the end of this quarter.  Still hope to launch the first satellite sometime next year.  They'll give more info in the next quarterly report.

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #7 on: 02/05/2021 02:21 am »
On their quarterly earnings call, Viasat said that the first payload is about 95% done.  Launch of the first sat is now likely to be in the first quarter of 2022.  They said it would only take about a month to move the satellite into position on that launch, after which they'd do a few months of testing since it's the first satellite in the series.  The second sat might be 5-6 months after the first one.
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Re: Viasat
« Reply #8 on: 04/12/2021 05:24 pm »
Viasat has started filing for dozens of Viasat 3 ground stations in the US.

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #9 on: 07/11/2021 02:51 am »
Viasat filed for another 16 ground stations on Friday

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #10 on: 07/12/2021 05:22 pm »
Viasat filed for another 16 ground stations on Friday

And another 70 yesterday

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #11 on: 08/06/2021 09:03 pm »
Viasat said first Viasat 3 launch more likely Q2 than Q1

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #12 on: 11/09/2021 02:44 am »
Viasat buying Inmarsat in $7.3 billion deal

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Viasat has agreed to buy British satellite fleet operator Inmarsat in a $7.3 billion deal to expand its broadband network globally in multiple orbits and spectrum bands.

Buying private equity-backed Inmarsat would transform U.S.-based Viasat into an operator of 19 satellites across Ka, L and S-band spectrum — with another 10 spacecraft set to launch in the next three years for a market that has been shaken up by SpaceX’s Starlink and other incoming megaconstellations.

“The unique fusion of teams, technologies and resources provides the ingredients and scale needed for profitable growth through the creation and delivery of innovative broadband and IoT services in new and existing fast-growing segments and geographies,” Viasat executive chair Mark Dankberg said in a statement.

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #13 on: 10/15/2022 12:50 pm »
Viasat’s Inmarsat takeover faces delay as UK expands merger review

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The U.K launched an in-depth probe Oct. 14 that will likely delay Viasat’s plan to buy Inmarsat, following concerns it could harm competition in the fledgling inflight connectivity (IFC) market.

The U.K.’s competition watchdog kicked off the investigation after giving the satellite operators a chance to alter the $7.3 billion deal, which it says could lead to more expensive and poorer quality Wi-Fi for airline passengers.

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #14 on: 12/07/2022 04:59 pm »
https://twitter.com/viasatinc/status/1600544290744172545

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Thanks @BoeingSpace, for hosting @TelstraEnt & Viasat. Great progress is being made on the ViaSat-3 APAC satellite. Telstra, is building & managing Australia's #ViaSat3 ground infrastructure & fiber network. Our partnership will enable connectivity even in the most remote areas.

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #15 on: 01/25/2023 10:09 am »
Inmarsat chief Rajeev Suri: I’m in a space race with Musk and Bezos

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Suri, 55, agreed a £5.6 billion sale to American satellite company Viasat in 2021, but getting the green light has been proving difficult. In the UK, the Competition and Markets Authority has launched an in-depth “Phase 2” investigation into the takeover, raising concerns about the lack of competition and potential price rises for in-flight wi-fi services. EU regulators will decide by next month whether to clear the merger.

Suri fears that if his deal is blocked, Musk’s Starlink and Amazon’s Project Kuiper will dominate as they launch tens of thousands of low-Earth orbit (LEO) satellites to connect the entire globe to the internet. Starlink has plans to launch a further 30,000 small satellites.

“If we’re not careful, there could be an LEO duopoly in the making with Starlink and Amazon,” he claims.



Some reality check: https://twitter.com/Megaconstellati/status/1617876315419598848

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What is Suri even talking about? Inmarsat and Viasat are not only cornered but already marginalized. They are way too late in the game and with a proposed L-band (2×3.5MHz user spectrum 🤣) constellation of just 150-175 LEOs Inmarsat is actually coming with a knife to a gunfight.



@InmarsatGlobal's only little chance to grab a piece of the LEO cake is to acquire @Telesat or @rivadaspace to secure their high priority @ITU filings. Any alternative is doomed because of the unmanagable interference problems if you line up behind @OneWeb, @SpaceX and @amazon.

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #16 on: 02/09/2023 03:13 am »
Viasat exploring partnerships for GEO and LEO direct-to-smartphone services

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Viasat is exploring hybrid narrowband direct-to-smartphone services using satellites in geostationary and non-geostationary orbits, CEO Mark Dankberg said Feb. 8.

There is “plenty that can be done both at GEO as well as at non-GEO,” Dankberg said while addressing the SmallSat Symposium in Mountain View, California, and “what we’re really looking at is a harmonized system between the two.”

During Viasat’s financial results call yesterday, Dankberg said the GEO broadband operator is open to partnering with low Earth orbit (LEO) companies, including arch-rival SpaceX.

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #17 on: 02/09/2023 12:55 pm »
For some context, Dankberg did not bring up SpaceX.  Some analyst asked in the Q&A whether maybe ViaSat could provide those services for SpaceX (which makes little sense), and Dankberg gave a pretty standard "we never rule out anything".

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #18 on: 05/01/2023 11:48 pm »
Note that ViaSat has redesignated the ViaSat-3 series to use the new ViaSat-3.x nomenclature.

The series is now identified as the following (former name in parentheses):
ViaSat 3.1 (ViaSat 3 Americas) (Aleutian Islands, Hawaii, North America, Central, South America)
ViaSat 3.2 (ViaSat 3 EMEA) (Europe, Middle East, Africa
ViaSat 3.3 (ViaSat 3 APAC) (Asia Pacific)
ViaSat 3.4 [now a spare] (ViaSat 3 ANZR) (Australia New Zealand Region)
https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/viasat-3.htm

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Re: Viasat
« Reply #19 on: 05/01/2023 11:50 pm »
Note that Arianespace has been kicked out of their contract for excessive Ariane 6 manifest launch delays apparently looking to SpaceX to exercise their next contract option.

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TBD - ViaSat 3 Asia - Ariane 64 - Kourou ELA-4

Due to repeated A6 delays the ViaSat 3 Asia, now called ViaSat-3.3 by the company and in regulation filings, mission left Arianespace for apparent breach of contract since it had no way of reaching orbit and debuting servicd in 2023 if it had stayed with Arianespace. They are looking at exercising a contract option with SpaceX for a Direct GEO insertion mission profile for VS-3.3. The launch provider for VS-3.4 [spare] remains TBD.

https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/viasat-3.htm
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One satellite is booked on an Ariane-5ECA rocket, while another will be launched on an Atlas-5(551) launch. Another launch contract was awarded to a Falcon-Heavy (Block 5)(ex). The first three satellites will be launched from 2020 to 2022. The Arianespace launch contract was in June 2019 changed to an Ariane-64 rocket for a 2021 launch. Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the initial launch date slipped to 2023. Due to delays of Ariane-6, the third was moved off this launcher.

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