Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Cape Canaveral : August 30, 2020 (23:19 UTC) (Read 200288 times)

AJW · « **Reply #220 on:** 08/26/2020 05:30 pm »

Kudos to whoever added the launch time to the thread title. It is now easy to see if there is a schedule change and I'm able to copy and paste the text from the title directly into my calendar 'new event' field and it does all the date and time conversion to local automatically. I hope this becomes standard procedure.

KTigress · « **Reply #221 on:** 08/27/2020 02:17 am »

A probably useless but cool detail Raul Kulichevsky, director of the CONAE, mentioned in an interview today: the exact launch time will be 23:19:53 UTC

The interview, in case someone is interested:

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #222 on:** 08/27/2020 02:26 am »

https://twitter.com/julia_bergeron/status/1298786958643261441

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The #SOACOM1B mission has begun for the Fleet. Ms. Tree is set for the southern landing zone but Ms. Chief has not designated yet. With Starlink stepping right will both gals go south for a double catch attempt? Tune in! #SpaceXFleet

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #223 on:** 08/27/2020 05:00 am »

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 08/23/2020 02:16 am

Quote from: KTigress on 08/21/2020 10:52 pm
Finally, the last test/rehearsal for SAOCOM-1B before launch won't be simultaneous to the static fire, so it will probably be a "regular" SF (no payload attached).
Transfer of the Falcon 9 to the pad and Static Fire should be next.

Noting as of now: We're less than 43 hours from launch and there is no outward sign reported of an impending Static Fire, with or without payload.

cpushack · « **Reply #224 on:** 08/27/2020 05:50 am »

ULA scrubbed today, retry morrow, which will delay this launch and likely the Starlink launch on the 30th.

Considering the fleet will have to be at see longer, they should bill ULA for their "When it absolutely, positively has to get into space safely and on time" delays

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #225 on:** 08/27/2020 06:03 am »

NROL-44 delayed to August 28:

Quote from: Steven Pietrobon on 08/27/2020 05:24 am

Scrub!

twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1298853251648040961

"Launch Director Lou Mangieri has announced that we will not continue with the #DeltaIVHeavy rocket countdown operations today for #NROL44. Another launch attempt will be possible in 24 hours."

SAOCOM-1B would be delayed to August 30, same time of day:

Quote from: KTigress on 08/25/2020 08:04 pm

Quote from: lucas071200 on 08/25/2020 06:58 pm
[Re: launch on August 28] Any idea why there is no longer a backup window on the forecast? Starlink-L11 taking priority?

If SAOCOM is delayed again, we'll have to wait a couple more days for a launch window. The 29th doesn't have the optimal conditions for orbit insertion.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #226 on:** 08/27/2020 11:36 am »

https://twitter.com/spacexfleet/status/1298945922886504448

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Good Morning! Ms. Tree and Ms. Chief departed from Cape Canaveral late last night and are heading south towards the SAOCOM-1B fairing recovery zone.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #227 on:** 08/27/2020 11:38 am »

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 08/27/2020 06:03 am

NROL-44 delayed to August 28:
Quote from: Steven Pietrobon on 08/27/2020 05:24 am
Scrub!

twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1298853251648040961

"Launch Director Lou Mangieri has announced that we will not continue with the #DeltaIVHeavy rocket countdown operations today for #NROL44. Another launch attempt will be possible in 24 hours."

SAOCOM-1B would be delayed to August 30, same time of day:
Quote from: KTigress on 08/25/2020 08:04 pm
Quote from: lucas071200 on 08/25/2020 06:58 pm
[Re: launch on August 28] Any idea why there is no longer a backup window on the forecast? Starlink-L11 taking priority?

If SAOCOM is delayed again, we'll have to wait a couple more days for a launch window. The 29th doesn't have the optimal conditions for orbit insertion.

In theory there doesn’t have to be a further delay:

https://twitter.com/chrisg_nsf/status/1298885863615721472

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16 hours is stated minimum the @45thSpaceWing requires to reconfigure between a #ULA & #SpaceX rocket. Current separation time between #NROL44 & #SAOCOM1B — if #DeltaIVHeavy launches at the top of its window Friday morning — is just over 17 hours 11 minutes. Will it happen...?

But I agree it seems very likely that the range will require a further pushback.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #228 on:** 08/27/2020 01:32 pm »

Now confirmed:

https://twitter.com/conae_oficial/status/1298976384723718144

Google translate:

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Due to the postponement of a previous release the #SAOCOM1B reschedules to the next date within the window of opportunity announced for late August. The new date will be communicated shortly. The satellite and equipment are ready to launch.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #229 on:** 08/27/2020 01:42 pm »

The NGA has issued a new notice for this launch for August 30 and 31.

Quote from: NGA

270852Z AUG 20
NAVAREA IV 800/20(11,26,27).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
STRAITS OF FLORIDA.
OLD BAHAMA CHANNEL.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
302309Z TO 310019Z AUG, ALTERNATE
312309Z TO 010019Z SEP IN AREAS BOUND BY:
A. 28-36-37N 080-35-44W, 28-39-00N 080-30-00W,
28-08-00N 080-11-00W, 28-03-00N 080-25-00W,
28-24-38N 080-35-20W.
B. 26-26-00N 079-31-00W, 26-36-00N 079-06-00W,
25-21-00N 078-32-00W, 25-10-00N 078-59-00W.
C. 24-14-00N 079-39-00W, 24-21-00N 079-07-00W,
23-28-00N 078-55-00W, 23-19-00N 079-27-00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 791/20.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 010119Z SEP 20.

Referenced:

Quote from: NGA

251854Z AUG 20
NAVAREA IV 791/20(11,26,27).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
STRAITS OF FLORIDA.
OLD BAHAMA CHANNEL.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
282309Z TO 290019Z AUG IN AREAS BOUND BY:
A. 28-36-37N 080-35-44W, 28-39-00N 080-30-00W,
28-08-00N 080-11-00W, 28-03-00N 080-25-00W,
28-24-38N 080-35-20W.
B. 26-26-00N 079-31-00W, 26-36-00N 079-06-00W,
25-21-00N 078-32-00W, 25-10-00N 078-59-00W.
C. 24-14-00N 079-39-00W, 24-21-00N 079-07-00W,
23-28-00N 078-55-00W, 23-19-00N 079-27-00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 776/20.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 290119Z AUG 20.

SMS · « **Reply #230 on:** 08/27/2020 02:01 pm »

https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1298982449129480192

Elthiryel · « **Reply #231 on:** 08/27/2020 02:41 pm »

L-3 weather forecast for August 30 is up.

40% GO for both the primary and the backup launch date.

https://www.patrick.af.mil/Portals/14/Weather/Falcon%209%20SAOCOM-1B%20L-3%20Forecast%2030%20Aug%20Launch.pdf?ver=2020-08-27-102249-420

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #232 on:** 08/27/2020 08:35 pm »

https://twitter.com/julia_bergeron/status/1299081639398699010

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Mystery and Mischief have arrived at the southern LZ for #SAOCOM1B. It is expected they will make the catch attempt and then run north to the Starlink LZ, most likely dropping off their halves along the way. For now it appears SAOCOM will stay ahead of SL in the launch order.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #233 on:** 08/27/2020 11:57 pm »

https://twitter.com/julia_bergeron/status/1299129564149489665

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Fleet Update: After being at dead stop in the #SAOCOM1B fairing catch zone it appears the sisters did an about face to head north. It is possible we could see a shuffle of the SpaceX launch cadence this weekend. Are they heading to the #Starlink LZ instead? #SpaceXFleet

ChrisC · « **Reply #234 on:** 08/28/2020 03:27 am »

Have there been any renderings / maps showing the expected visibility of this launch? I've been following this thread ever since this mission moved to the Eastern Range and don't recall seeing any. Obviously the first stage will be the most visible and most interesting to watch at staging. How far south will people be able to see it? Miami?

Thanks to Raul's map, I know that the impact zone for the first stage, if none of the RTLS activity works, is about 80 miles east of Miami. Of course that implies that, nominally, the first stage will MECO much farther north, say maybe east of Vero Beach? If it's a nominal RTLS operation, how far south should people be able to see the boostback burn?

AndrewRG10 · « **Reply #235 on:** 08/28/2020 08:30 am »

Quote from: ChrisC on 08/28/2020 03:27 am

Have there been any renderings / maps showing the expected visibility of this launch? I've been following this thread ever since this mission moved to the Eastern Range and don't recall seeing any. Obviously the first stage will be the most visible and most interesting to watch at staging. How far south will people be able to see it? Miami?

Thanks to Raul's map, I know that the impact zone for the first stage, if none of the RTLS activity works, is about 80 miles east of Miami. Of course that implies that, nominally, the first stage will MECO much farther north, say maybe east of Vero Beach? If it's a nominal RTLS operation, how far south should people be able to see the boostback burn?

Flight Club has some preliminary guesses. And Declan is pretty good at this stuff in the past.

https://twitter.com/flightclubio/status/1297941734081495045

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I wonder about this SAOCOM-1B landing. Usually (I think) boosters are falling short of the landing pad into the water until landing burn starts and pushes them to the pad.

In this case, it would have to "fall right" instead of "fall short" since it's arriving from the south

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #236 on:** 08/28/2020 01:35 pm »

https://twitter.com/spacexfleet/status/1299337855857197058

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While GO Ms. Tree continues to the #Starlink LZ, it appears GO Ms. Chief may have stayed at the southern #SAOCOM1B landing zone after all. Last ping was almost 23:00 ET last night, well after Mystery left. A double header recovery weekend is looking promising. #SpaceXFleet

Elthiryel · « **Reply #237 on:** 08/28/2020 01:43 pm »

L-2 weather forecast is unchanged, still 40% for both the primary and the backup launch date.

https://www.patrick.af.mil/Portals/14/Weather/Falcon%209%20SAOCOM-1B%20L-2%20Forecast%2030%20Aug%20Launch.pdf?ver=2020-08-28-091149-127

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #238 on:** 08/28/2020 03:09 pm »

The launch window has been expanded to include September 1st and 2nd in addition to August 30th and 31st.

Quote from: NGA

280716Z AUG 20
NAVAREA IV 805/20(11,26,27).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
STRAITS OF FLORIDA.
OLD BAHAMA CHANNEL.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
302309Z TO 310019Z AUG, ALTERNATE
2309Z TO 0019Z COMMENCING DAILY
31 AUG TO 02 SEP IN AREAS BOUND BY:
A. 28-36-37N 080-35-44W, 28-39-00N 080-30-00W,
28-08-00N 080-11-00W, 28-03-00N 080-25-00W,
28-24-38N 080-35-20W.
B. 26-26-00N 079-31-00W, 26-36-00N 079-06-00W,
25-21-00N 078-32-00W, 25-10-00N 078-59-00W.
C. 24-14-00N 079-39-00W, 24-21-00N 079-07-00W,
23-28-00N 078-55-00W, 23-19-00N 079-27-00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 800/20.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 030119Z SEP 20.

Referenced:

Quote from: NGA

270852Z AUG 20
NAVAREA IV 800/20(11,26,27).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
STRAITS OF FLORIDA.
OLD BAHAMA CHANNEL.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
302309Z TO 310019Z AUG, ALTERNATE
312309Z TO 010019Z SEP IN AREAS BOUND BY:
A. 28-36-37N 080-35-44W, 28-39-00N 080-30-00W,
28-08-00N 080-11-00W, 28-03-00N 080-25-00W,
28-24-38N 080-35-20W.
B. 26-26-00N 079-31-00W, 26-36-00N 079-06-00W,
25-21-00N 078-32-00W, 25-10-00N 078-59-00W.
C. 24-14-00N 079-39-00W, 24-21-00N 079-07-00W,
23-28-00N 078-55-00W, 23-19-00N 079-27-00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 791/20.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 010119Z SEP 20.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #239 on:** 08/28/2020 09:20 pm »

Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 08/28/2020 09:20 pm

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1299456107170033664

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Pending Range availability, targeting back-to-back Falcon 9 launches from Florida on Sunday, August 30—another flight of Starlink from LC-39A at 10:12 a.m. EDT followed by the SAOCOM 1B mission from SLC-40 at 7:18 p.m. EDT