Boeing employs over 50,000 people. Most of these people work on airplanes, not space-related stuff.I've heard their space-related division is about 4,000 people, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.
"Drawing on over 40 years of experience and a unique combination of skills, expertise and cultures, Thales Alenia Space delivers cost-effective solutions for telecommunications, navigation, Earth observation, environmental management, exploration, science and orbital infrastructures. Governments and private industry alike count on Thales Alenia Space to design satellite-based systems that provide anytime, anywhere connections and positioning, monitor our planet, enhance management of its resources, and explore our Solar System and beyond. Thales Alenia Space sees space as a new horizon, helping to build a better, more sustainable life on Earth. A joint venture between Thales (67%) and Leonardo (33%), Thales Alenia Space also teams up with Telespazio to form the parent companies’ Space Alliance, which offers a complete range of services. Thales Alenia Space posted consolidated revenues of 2.6 billion euros in 2017 and has 7,980 employees in nine countries. www.thalesaleniaspace.com"
We guarantee assured access to space and fuel local economies with our nation wide team of nearly 2,500 employees.
Interesting, the ArianeSpace company (ArianeGroup) have more than the double employees than ULA and their don't launch much more rockets... ULA: 3400 employees (2016)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Launch_AllianceO even less:QuoteWe guarantee assured access to space and fuel local economies with our nation wide team of nearly 2,500 employees.https://www.ulalaunch.com/about
Actualization the ranking Arianne Group, a Joint-venture between Airbus and Safran, is maybe the biggest...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArianeGroupOver 9000 employees https://www.ariane.group/en/about-us/company-profil/
Energia (Soyuz and Progress spacecraft) - 7 791 (2017)Khrunichev (Proton, Angara) - 25 000 (2017)Progress (Soyuz rocket) - 17 703Energomash (engines) - 4 100
I ask, how big are the space companies by employees...I think is maybe one of the best form to compare, this companys, because some are in the market, other not, other have some kind of valuation for the VC...Who are the biggest space companies in the actuality by employees?For example we know SpaceX have 7000 employees...Maxar Technologies, 6500...OHB SE, 2500...Blue Origin 1500 and growth...but..How much have Boeing, LM, NOC, Airbus, etc in their space division?How much have in the actuality RSC Energia, Samara Progress, Khrunichev, etc? The wiki, don't show information very actual...It's SpaceX the biggest space company by employees in the world right now?
ULA is not counting the personnel from sub-contractors. Who are essential to keep ULA running.Wonder if those same personnel in ArianeSpace is contracted out or in-house.
Ariane Group also produces satellite parts, and has a contract for submarine-launched ballistic missiles for the French navy. So there again, not that total number is devoted to just building rocket launch vehicles, there's other things as well. That's why it's so hard to make a 1-1 comparison.
Also: how about the Chinese? They're always the elephant in the room when talking about space companies, I feel. They did launch over a third of all orbital rockets last year. Not even all American companies put together managed to launch a third of all orbital rockets last year.
Don't forget CASC...According to a floppy source it has about 173k employees http://www.caifuzhongwen.com/fortune500/gongsi/global500/2018/669.htm
Rocket Lab is 380. Source: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12182859
Quote from: Ultrafamicom on 01/11/2019 11:27 pmDon't forget CASC...According to a floppy source it has about 173k employees http://www.caifuzhongwen.com/fortune500/gongsi/global500/2018/669.htmIF we considerate CASC as a company yes be far it's the biggest be employees, if we considerate as part of CNSA then no...What the people think about CASC?
4-SpaceX: 7000
Quote from: Tywin on 01/13/2019 06:00 pm4-SpaceX: 7000Will soon be 6300 with the recently announced 10% cut.
Quote from: Steven Pietrobon on 01/14/2019 08:12 amQuote from: Tywin on 01/13/2019 06:00 pm4-SpaceX: 7000Will soon be 6300 with the recently announced 10% cut.Aerojet Rocketdyne's head count is around 6000; not sure if that includes the numerous contractors working onsite.
nearly 5,000 employees
I think Northrop Grumman may have more space-related employment than that. NGIS has about 15,000 employees, and there is also space work in Aerospace Systems. Aerospace Systems is, for example, the prime contractor on JWST.http://www.northropgrumman.com/AboutUs/BusinessSectors/InnovationSystems/Pages/default.aspxFrom Slide 6 of this presentation, when NGIS was still Orbital ATK, it appears around half of NGIS would be considered space-related.
The employee count for Russian companies is surprisingly large. CASC is at the top but according to wikipedia it makes a lot of non-space products as well.Maybe this is counting a lot of people who actually work on missiles or aircraft? Or maybe US/EU companies rely much more on small business contracts so their employee count is understated?
As of the beginning of 2018, the number of employees at the enterprise is more than 5000.
For CASC we try to pick only the space employees...and for the Russian company the same...
The numbers for Aerojet are very misleading. Much of the head count is unrelated to space. Tactical rocket motors for the war fighter are a major portion of the business.
Quote from: testguy on 12/14/2019 03:51 pmThe numbers for Aerojet are very misleading. Much of the head count is unrelated to space. Tactical rocket motors for the war fighter are a major portion of the business.The half then maybe?
April 2021 Ranking:1-CASC: 600002-Krunichev: 250003-Progress: 177004- SpaceX: 9500, ArianeGroup: 9000 (but not all these employees work in the space division), Thales Alenia Space: 8000, ISS-Reshetnev’s: 8500,5-Energia:78006-Aerojet Rocketdyne: 5000, NPO Lavochkin: 5000, Yuzhnoye: 50007-Energomash: 4400 (http://engine.space/eng/), Viasat: 4700, Maxar Technologies: 45008-The space division of the giants, Boeing, LM, Northrop, Airbus, with maybe a number of employees between 4000-5000...9-ULA: 3400, Blue Origin: 350010-OHB SE: 2500, Telespazio Spa: 2500, SNC:4000 (but not all are space employees ...)11-SES:2000, MDA:200012-Virgin Galactic: 1850, Inmarsat: 170013-Eutelsat: 1000, Intelsat: 1100, Ball Aerospace: 1000 (estimate from her presentation)14-Avio Spa: 90015-Virgin Orbit: 500, Rocket Lab: 500, Firefly Space: 50016-SITAEL: 380, Iridium: 30017-Relativity Space: 230, Astra: 100SpaceX is already the 4th largest company in numbers of employees and the largest of Western private companies ...
Boeing is even tougher to determine since Wikipedia lump military aircraft and security with space in their organization table. Wikipedia has that group at 15,000, about the same as LM. But LM separates their space and aircraft divisions. So Boeing's space only business is much smaller.
