Author Topic: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9  (Read 228916 times)

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Read this today in the COB agenda, Page 1.

WORK SESSION: 5:30 P.M. (Open to the Public) City Manager’s Conference Room

D) Discussion regarding Project Space X Observatory.

www.cob.us/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/627?fileID=13453

It says nothing else, sigh...but interesting nontheless...

I kind of wonder if that will be canceled? It really depends on what they do with this launch pad - originally it was for Falcon 9 and heavy launches but if it's just used for hopper and nothing else then it'll be a few months to a year or two at most depending on development speed and success of this hopper vehicle.
Perhaps they'll make and launch a prototype Starship after the hopper at this site, but I don't see the pad as being built to necessarily support the full stack - tho of course I could be wrong there.
If they build this thing so that they can do actual orbital launches off of it eventually then having the stand makes sense.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #561 on: 01/19/2019 09:45 pm »
WORK SESSION: 5:30 P.M. (Open to the Public) City Manager’s Conference Room

D) Discussion regarding Project Space X Observatory.

www.cob.us/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/627?fileID=13453

It says nothing else, sigh...but interesting nontheless...

The observatory sounds like Stargate. We know that one of the tracking dishes was active for the last SpaceX launch. Perhaps the other one will be active for the DM-1 mission coming up.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #562 on: 01/19/2019 10:54 pm »
WORK SESSION: 5:30 P.M. (Open to the Public) City Manager’s Conference Room

D) Discussion regarding Project Space X Observatory.

www.cob.us/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/627?fileID=13453

It says nothing else, sigh...but interesting nontheless...

The observatory sounds like Stargate. We know that one of the tracking dishes was active for the last SpaceX launch. Perhaps the other one will be active for the DM-1 mission coming up.
They haven't even touched the first dish yet. No drives and waveguides that sat open to the elements for years and are still sitting in the dirt.
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who couldn't hear the music.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #563 on: 01/19/2019 11:25 pm »
Read this today in the COB agenda, Page 1.

WORK SESSION: 5:30 P.M. (Open to the Public) City Manager’s Conference Room

D) Discussion regarding Project Space X Observatory.

www.cob.us/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/627?fileID=13453

It says nothing else, sigh...but interesting nontheless...

Hanging my thesis on a single keystroke, that's "Space X", Space (space) X, not "SpaceX".  It may have nothing at all to do with a SpaceX Facility.  If that's not a typographic error, it's how NOT to claim to be part of the company.


And for those who haven't opened it, COB is "City of Brownsville"
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #564 on: 01/20/2019 04:05 am »
Okay. I'm convinced. No shipping of pieces from Hawthorne.

Can they build the orbital prototype and superheavy in a tent? How big of a tent? What else would they need?

I wouldn't go that far.  It's just to me there is a large question as to what (if anything) leaves Hawthorne.  They might do exactly what Boeing does and ship panels...

As for where BFR / BFS will be built, there's also another possibility...

The Port of Brownsville is world-class, regularly handing aircraft carriers, oil drilling rigs, and huge tankers.  There's also plenty of undeveloped land along this shipping channel.  If SpaceX set up a BFR manufacturing facility there, they could ship it anywhere in the world, including offshore launch platforms.  They could also use the new SH-32 connector to transport it over land to Boca Chica.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #565 on: 01/20/2019 03:02 pm »
This ^^^ makes more sense than Port of LA for many reasons.
Downside...Port of LA had "easy" drive access for Hawthorne design engineering team to check in on factory issues.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #566 on: 01/21/2019 02:19 am »
DJI SPARK SPACEX Boca Chica Launch Pad Flight

https://youtube.com/user/austinbarnard
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #567 on: 01/21/2019 05:10 am »
he published two videos, here is the other.

DJI SPARK flight around SPACE's Starhopper and "Ground Control"


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Published on Jan 20, 2019
Documentation of SpaceX vehicles and location.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=110aaW2-o-0?t=001

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #568 on: 01/21/2019 10:35 am »
STARSHIP CAM - Live View of Starship and Launch Pad at SpaceX Boca Chica from South Padre Island



https://www.spadre.com/

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #569 on: 01/21/2019 10:41 am »
Excellent. We've seen boosters getting returned with the Florida cam, now we get to see a monster rocket getting built LIVE!



STARSHIP CAM - Live View of Starship and Launch Pad at SpaceX Boca Chica from South Padre Island



https://www.spadre.com/

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #570 on: 01/21/2019 01:21 pm »
STARSHIP CAM - Live View of Starship and Launch Pad at SpaceX Boca Chica from South Padre Island
https://youtube.com/watch?v=f6fvG0-ZMmc
https://www.spadre.com/

For the record:
- it says it started streaming on Jan 17th
- the camera view switches (automatically?) to one of two other beach views every ~30 seconds, with a weird freeze/zoom glitch
- the crawl at the bottom says they have a "Q+A session at 9am and 6pm CT on Youtube Live chat", presumably daily
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #571 on: 01/21/2019 04:33 pm »
STARSHIP CAM - Live View of Starship and Launch Pad at SpaceX Boca Chica from South Padre Island
https://youtube.com/watch?v=f6fvG0-ZMmc
https://www.spadre.com/

For the record:
- it says it started streaming on Jan 17th
- the camera view switches (automatically?) to one of two other beach views every ~30 seconds, with a weird freeze/zoom glitch
- the crawl at the bottom says they have a "Q+A session at 9am and 6pm CT on Youtube Live chat", presumably daily

Even more curious, the crawl says "SpaceX Starship launches will begin in February" :o

Another of the camera views is the launch area where the two standing tanks can be seen.

The first of the beach scenes shows people walking on the jetty.  That would be one heck of a place from which to watch a Boca Chica launch.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #572 on: 01/21/2019 04:52 pm »
The first of the beach scenes shows people walking on the jetty.  That would be one heck of a place from which to watch a Boca Chica launch.

Yes.  Most of the line of sight from there is over water, as shown in the right red line in the first picture below.

Also, if you could get higher up, the view would be less obstructed, as shown in the third picture below.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #573 on: 01/22/2019 03:20 am »
The first of the beach scenes shows people walking on the jetty.  That would be one heck of a place from which to watch a Boca Chica launch.
Yes.  Most of the line of sight from there is over water, (Snip)
Serves me right for putting more than one thing in a post.
The jetty is known, but a February launch?
What do they know that we don’t know?
What are they smoking?
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #574 on: 01/22/2019 04:22 am »
Everyone seems to have forgotten that SpaceX came back to the State of Texas in 2018 and requested additional funding to go "well beyond" their original plans. I'm almost convinced they're moving some manufacturing to BC: There's also a rumor flying around Brownsville that former State Representative Rene Oliveira is joining the Board of Directors at SpaceX - if this is true, it can only mean that SpaceX plans do a lot more business in Texas.

From the Brownsville Herald January 2018:

SpaceX funding request may indicate broader scope

https://www.brownsvilleherald.com/premium/spacex-funding-request-may-indicate-broader-scope/article_49f9d9ca-06ff-11e8-9d6c-0bb169167e1b.html

Teslarati Article:

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-mars-rocket-factory-south-texas-coast/
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #576 on: 01/22/2019 06:12 pm »
 Commercial power is out today and it's too windy to do much anyhow.

More info on the City of Brownsville observatory:

https://www.themonitor.com/2019/01/22/brownsville-eyes-landfill-possible-observatory/

Not sure if I'd call a spot where the port and city light up the night sky the "perfect" place.
« Last Edit: 01/23/2019 12:54 am by Nomadd »
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who couldn't hear the music.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #577 on: 01/22/2019 10:30 pm »
Commercial power is out today and it's too windy to do much anyhow.

More info on the City of Brownsville observatory:

https://www.themonitor.com/2019/01/22/brownsville-eyes-landfill-possible-observatory/

Not sure if I'd call a place where the port and city light up the night sky the "perfect" place.

I would guess that the extremely high elevation makes up for the other problems.

I saw a photo of a piece of machinery set up by the launch pad tanks, Maria thinks it may be for cooling?

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 9
« Reply #579 on: 01/23/2019 12:43 am »
I saw a photo of a piece of machinery set up by the launch pad tanks, Maria thinks it may be for cooling?
Yep. The tanks at McGregor have the same types on manifolds next to them. It's been laying there for a while and just went vertical.
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Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who couldn't hear the music.

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