Author Topic: Soyuz-2-1a/Fregat-M – Meridian-M №8 – Plesetsk 43/4 - July 30, 2019 05:56 UTC  (Read 17885 times)

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The next Meridian on it’s way to the launch site.

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Belated cross-post:
Kosmos (Meridian-M №18L) - Q1 2019:
https://ria.ru/20181214/1547964548.html

EDIT 4/12: No launch in Q1 2019.
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Cross-post re: Meridian #8 and #9 to be launched before the end of 2019:
https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1134470859765231618
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Cross-post; my bold:
https://tass.ru/kosmos/6634814
Google translation
Russia will hold seven space launches in July
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This month we have to carry out the number of start-ups that we have carried out during the entire six months, in order to increase the figure that is much higher than last year. <...> You know, on Baikonur, there will still be a manned launch on July 20, a transport ship on July 31, the rest is Plesetsk, and so on. Only seven starts, "he said
There could be three launches from Plesetsk in July.

Assuming there are indeed 3 launches scheduled from Plesetsk in July
and
Given the first week of July is almost gone and we have not seen any NOTAMS
then
Spacing between launches should be ca. 10 days (like July 10, July 20, July 30)

Since there is only one pad for Soyuz-2 (43/4) such cadence seems doubtful to me.
Theoretically it is possible to recycle pad in 10 days, but two times in a row - it's quite a different story.

So, my guess - one of these July launches is Rokot with Geo-IK-2.

http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/forum14/topic16307/?PAGEN_1=47

The Russian launch schedule on the "Novosti kosmonavtiki" forum now shows the following launches scheduled from Plesetsk  "no earlier than July", all from pad 43/4:

- Soyuz-2-1V/Volga  (payload not given, but possibly Nivelir/14F150 nr. 2)
- Soyuz-2-1A/Fregat : Meridian-M nr. 18L
- Soyuz-2-1A/Fregat : 14F01/Neitron
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Will the launch take place in the next few hours...?
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Will the launch take place in the next few hours...?
Remember that the other 2 launches are NET July and does not mean a launch is actually scheduled but is rather indicative of a possible launch opportunity.

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Looks like she is flying on the 30th.

F1936/19 - ROCKET LAUNCH FROM RUSSIA WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF RUSSIA: THE MINISTRY OF DEFENSE OF
RUSSIA PLANS TO LAUNCH MISSILE IN THE SPACE AND TO SINK ITS FRAGMENTS
IN THE WATERS OF THE OCEAN.
CHARACTERISTICS OF IMPACT AREA:
4630S 15500E
5132S 16300E
5623S 16300E
4915S 15100E
4630S 15500E
PRIMARY LAUNCH DATE 20190730
ALTERNATE DATE 20190731. SFC - UNL, DAILY 0500/0800, 30 JUL 05:00 2019 UNTIL
31 JUL 08:00 2019. CREATED: 22 JUL 09:24 2019

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This launch thread shows the LV as a Soyuz-2-1b/Fregat-M.

Gunter's Meridian satellite page, list the four additional Meridian satellites (#8, 9, 10, 11) launching on Soyuz-2-1b/Fregat-M.

The "Plan of Russian space launches (part 2)" thread shows Meridian #8 and 9 launching on Soyuz-2-1a/Fregat-M.

Question 1
Which LV make/model is correct?
EDIT 7/22 Soyuz-2-1a with Fregat upper stage
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Question 2
How do we know the recent NOTMAR posted directly up-thread is for Meridian and not for Neitron?
(Neitron #1 is the other Soyuz/Plesetsk payload listed as possibly launching in July 2019.)
EDIT 7/22 Not Neitron #1
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EDIT 7/22 Question 3
The NOTMAR up-thread is for the Blok I stage, yes?
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This launch thread shows the LV as a Soyuz-2-1b/Fregat-M.

Gunter's Meridian satellite page, list the four additional Meridian satellites (#8, 9, 10, 11) launching on Soyuz-2-1b/Fregat-M.

The "Plan of Russian space launches (part 2)" thread shows Meridian #8 and 9 launching on Soyuz-2-1a/Fregat-M.

Question 1
Which LV make/model is correct?
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Question 2
How do we know the recent NOTMAR posted directly up-thread is for Meridian and not for Neitron?
(Neitron #1 is the other Soyuz/Plesetsk payload listed as possibly launching in July 2019.)
Neitron is launching to a previous programmes orbit. I have no analysed the NOTAM's orbital path through the drop zone.

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http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/forum14/topic16307/?PAGEN_1=48

 Космос (Меридиан-М №18Л) – Союз-2-1А/Фрегат – Плесецк 43/4

Soyuz 2.1a/Fregat
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Looks like she is flying on the 30th.

F1936/19 - ROCKET LAUNCH FROM RUSSIA WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF RUSSIA: THE MINISTRY OF DEFENSE OF
RUSSIA PLANS TO LAUNCH MISSILE IN THE SPACE AND TO SINK ITS FRAGMENTS
IN THE WATERS OF THE OCEAN.
CHARACTERISTICS OF IMPACT AREA:
4630S 15500E
5132S 16300E
5623S 16300E
4915S 15100E
4630S 15500E
PRIMARY LAUNCH DATE 20190730
ALTERNATE DATE 20190731. SFC - UNL, DAILY 0500/0800, 30 JUL 05:00 2019 UNTIL
31 JUL 08:00 2019. CREATED: 22 JUL 09:24 2019
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=35697.msg1278836#msg1278836
46-30S 155-00E
57-00S 176-00E
60-00S 172-34E
49-15S 151-00E

(Meridian 7)
not the same (?)
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Looks like she is flying on the 30th.

F1936/19 - ROCKET LAUNCH FROM RUSSIA WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF RUSSIA: THE MINISTRY OF DEFENSE OF
RUSSIA PLANS TO LAUNCH MISSILE IN THE SPACE AND TO SINK ITS FRAGMENTS
IN THE WATERS OF THE OCEAN.
CHARACTERISTICS OF IMPACT AREA:
4630S 15500E
5132S 16300E
5623S 16300E
4915S 15100E
4630S 15500E
PRIMARY LAUNCH DATE 20190730
ALTERNATE DATE 20190731. SFC - UNL, DAILY 0500/0800, 30 JUL 05:00 2019 UNTIL
31 JUL 08:00 2019. CREATED: 22 JUL 09:24 2019
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=35697.msg1278836#msg1278836
46-30S 155-00E
57-00S 176-00E
60-00S 172-34E
49-15S 151-00E

(Meridian 7)
not the same (?)

It's the same flight path; the new box is a little smaller.

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B4409/19 - TEMPO DANGER AREA NZD029 (EAST AUCKLAND OCEANIC FIR) IS PRESCRIBED AS FLW: ALL THAT AIRSPACE BOUNDED BY A LINE JOINING 57 00 00 S 176 00 00 E 60 00 00 S 172 34 00 E 56 23 00 S 163 00 00 E 51 32 00 S 163 00 00 E 57 00 00 S 176 00 00 E ACTIVITY: SPACE DEBRIS RETURN USER AGENCY: FOREIGN SPACE AGENCY PRESCRIBED PURSUANT TO CIVIL AVIATION RULE PART 71 UNDER A DELEGATED AUTHORITY ISSUED BY THE DIRECTOR OF CIVIL AVIATION. SFC - FL999, 30 JUL 05:00 2019 UNTIL 30 JUL 08:00 2019. CREATED: 26 JUL 02:58 2019


Previous F1936/19 in red, new B4409/19 in yellow
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Q4016/19 - ATS RTE SEGMENTS CLSD: W57 ABELU - BAROD A303 SORIG - ABLAR A491 SOTER - UKHTA VORDME (UHT) R822 GUBIR - TITKO A834 AKADA - GISAN B152 NEROL - GAPRA B486 AKADA - MEDER B714 SONIB - BAMON T541 SONIB - BAMON W23 ROTAT - UKHTA VORDME (UHT) G356 TOBOLSK NDB (NH) - VOREG N992 TOBOLSK NDB (NH) - NIKUL P865 LERPI - INKOR R211 TOBOLSK NDB (NH) - NIKUL R372 PIRED - TOBOLSK NDB (NH) R717 TOBOLSK NDB (NH) - RISIR W256 TOBOLSK NDB (NH) - ROMEV. SFC - UNL, DAILY 0500-0800, 30 JUL 05:00 2019 UNTIL 31 JUL 08:00 2019. CREATED: 26 JUL 07:14 2019
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   InForce
P 260907Z JUL 19

HYDROPAC 2390/19(76).
WESTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 05, DNC 06.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
0500Z TO 0800Z DAILY 30 AND 31 JUL
IN AREA BOUND BY
46-30S 155-00E, 57-00S 176-00E,
60-00S 172-34E, 49-15S 151-00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 310900Z JUL 19.//

GENERAL.//

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Q4016/19 - ATS RTE SEGMENTS CLSD: W57 ABELU - BAROD A303 SORIG - ABLAR A491 SOTER - UKHTA VORDME (UHT) R822 GUBIR - TITKO A834 AKADA - GISAN B152 NEROL - GAPRA B486 AKADA - MEDER B714 SONIB - BAMON T541 SONIB - BAMON W23 ROTAT - UKHTA VORDME (UHT) G356 TOBOLSK NDB (NH) - VOREG N992 TOBOLSK NDB (NH) - NIKUL P865 LERPI - INKOR R211 TOBOLSK NDB (NH) - NIKUL R372 PIRED - TOBOLSK NDB (NH) R717 TOBOLSK NDB (NH) - RISIR W256 TOBOLSK NDB (NH) - ROMEV. SFC - UNL, DAILY 0500-0800, 30 JUL 05:00 2019 UNTIL 31 JUL 08:00 2019. CREATED: 26 JUL 07:14 2019


An attempt at mapping the closed segments. (mostly for S'n'G)
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any info  about the rocket΄s serial number?

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Seeking correction if I'm wrong...
There will not be a live web cast of this launch.
Meridian satellites do not receive a Kosmos designation.
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Seeking correction if I'm wrong...
There will not be a live web cast of this launch.
Meridian satellites do not receive a Kosmos designation.

You are correct. Sadly no chance of a webcast, and like Molniya before it, Meridian does not normally get a Kosmos designation.

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The launch window is now open. Launch should be happening within the next three hours.
« Last Edit: 07/30/2019 05:00 am by Steven Pietrobon »
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