And their plan is to star the fly before end 2019
Paraffin?
Quote from: xyv on 03/15/2019 01:57 amParaffin? Well, if you can't buy RP-1...
Quote from: CameronD on 03/15/2019 06:09 amQuote from: xyv on 03/15/2019 01:57 amParaffin? Well, if you can't buy RP-1...Could be regional confusion: the US uses Kerosene for both the refined and less refined versions, where many parts of the world use Kerosene for the less refined aviation fuel and Paraffin for the more refined version. RP-1 is refined Kerosene, after all, so could also be called a high grade of Paraffin.
It will support development of ESI’s upcoming suborbital SHARP (Suborbital Hybrid Ascent and Recovery Program) vehicle slated to fly in early 2020. The vehicle’s engine will use liquid Nitrous Oxide as compared Liquid Oxygen used in the previous v.2.2 Engine ground prototype, and will be capable of in-flight restartability.The location of the test flight, as well as cooperation and arrangements with local suppliers and authorities, will be revealed in the next few months. ESI’s Volans microlauncher is expected to conduct its first test flight in 2021 from a yet-to-be determined location in the APAC region.
Update on Volans vehicle https://www.equatorialspace.com/the-volans
To be honest though, i would prefer them to have a liquid Rocket Engine from Ursa Major because Hybrids are a pain in the ass once you scale it up.Technical skills here is just lacking to be honest, the most that we can do here is hybrids because Laws hate Solids and we don't have the expertise,capital and talent for the knowledge in Liquid Rocket Engines.
HmmChilled Nox oxidizer and a Sea Launch style floating launch pad.
Quote from: john smith 19 on 07/11/2020 04:11 pmHmmChilled Nox oxidizer and a Sea Launch style floating launch pad.The region is not that good for that because the best nearby location is the South China sea where our neighbors mainly have military airspace and are generally not open to using their airspace.We could use an Indonesian Island called Natuna island in the Riau Islands where there are no airways and shipping ways for at least 200km down range for polar orbits to the north but since its in the South China Sea and due to disputes, it would be really hard to get a launch site there. Sea launch is expensive as you need to take into account wear by the sea and the infrastructure is very expensive to build which is quite difficult for a start up with less than 200K in funding for now.My country(Singapore) is doing an interesting approach to the space industry where it will not be financially supporting any company which is quite different from the traditional private-public partnerships like Australia where its pumping in 150M into the space industry.And given how bad the economy is now, its going to be hard to get VC funding for the foreseeable future for start ups in Singapore.So i don't really agree with my countries strategy.
Quote from: Aerojet Rocketdyne RS-25 on 08/03/2020 07:16 amQuote from: john smith 19 on 07/11/2020 04:11 pmHmmChilled Nox oxidizer and a Sea Launch style floating launch pad.The region is not that good for that because the best nearby location is the South China sea where our neighbors mainly have military airspace and are generally not open to using their airspace.We could use an Indonesian Island called Natuna island in the Riau Islands where there are no airways and shipping ways for at least 200km down range for polar orbits to the north but since its in the South China Sea and due to disputes, it would be really hard to get a launch site there. Sea launch is expensive as you need to take into account wear by the sea and the infrastructure is very expensive to build which is quite difficult for a start up with less than 200K in funding for now.My country(Singapore) is doing an interesting approach to the space industry where it will not be financially supporting any company which is quite different from the traditional private-public partnerships like Australia where its pumping in 150M into the space industry.And given how bad the economy is now, its going to be hard to get VC funding for the foreseeable future for start ups in Singapore.So i don't really agree with my countries strategy.If you look at their main page, you'll notice Southern Launch are one of their "partners". Connecting the dots, I would say that if they develop this vehicle to the point of needing somewhere to launch from, they'll most likely ship it to South Australia.https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46926.0EDIT: BTW AFAIK, Australia is not "pumping in 150M into the space industry". Into running the Space Agency maybe, but certainly not industry..
Quote from: CameronD on 08/03/2020 11:37 pmIf you look at their main page, you'll notice Southern Launch are one of their "partners". Connecting the dots, I would say that if they develop this vehicle to the point of needing somewhere to launch from, they'll most likely ship it to South Australia.https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46926.0EDIT: BTW AFAIK, Australia is not "pumping in 150M into the space industry". Into running the Space Agency maybe, but certainly not industry..Yeah this is why i am also quite skeptical of it being a South East Asian operated Launch company, it will move to Australia just like how Gilmour did. The rules and regulations here are really unfriendly to launch companies sadly.
If you look at their main page, you'll notice Southern Launch are one of their "partners". Connecting the dots, I would say that if they develop this vehicle to the point of needing somewhere to launch from, they'll most likely ship it to South Australia.https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46926.0EDIT: BTW AFAIK, Australia is not "pumping in 150M into the space industry". Into running the Space Agency maybe, but certainly not industry..
Quote from: Aerojet Rocketdyne RS-25 on 08/05/2020 01:49 pmQuote from: CameronD on 08/03/2020 11:37 pmIf you look at their main page, you'll notice Southern Launch are one of their "partners". Connecting the dots, I would say that if they develop this vehicle to the point of needing somewhere to launch from, they'll most likely ship it to South Australia.https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46926.0EDIT: BTW AFAIK, Australia is not "pumping in 150M into the space industry". Into running the Space Agency maybe, but certainly not industry..Yeah this is why i am also quite skeptical of it being a South East Asian operated Launch company, it will move to Australia just like how Gilmour did. The rules and regulations here are really unfriendly to launch companies sadly.Gilmour are, and have always been, an Australian company. There's nothing to stop Equatorial Space building their rockets in Singapore, thus supporting the local economy. Launch control also can be handled remotely these days (particularly from so tech-advanced a country as Singapore), so MCC is most likely to be in Singapore also.And if ELA ever get to launch big rockets from the Northern Territory then they'll have two places they can launch from on Australian soil, so I guess I'm not as skeptical as you are.
https://spacewatch.global/2021/01/equatorial-space-systems-concludes-first-test-flight/?no_cache=1609501402"The 2.5-meters-long Low Altitude Demonstrator(LAD) took flight over the vast expanse of the Felcra Palm Oil Estate in Perak, Malaysia at approximately 11:40 local time on Monday, 21st December, and reached its target altitude of 1.2 kilometres. The vehicle was the very first in-flight demonstration of the Company’s proprietary solid fuel for hybrid rocket motors, the HRF-1"The LAD:Length: 2.4mDiameter: 15cmTarget Altitude: 1.5kmTotal Mass: 22kgPropulsion: Hybrid (HRF-1AL/NOX)
Quote from: Aerojet Rocketdyne RS-25 on 01/05/2021 03:50 amhttps://spacewatch.global/2021/01/equatorial-space-systems-concludes-first-test-flight/?no_cache=1609501402"The 2.5-meters-long Low Altitude Demonstrator(LAD) took flight over the vast expanse of the Felcra Palm Oil Estate in Perak, Malaysia at approximately 11:40 local time on Monday, 21st December, and reached its target altitude of 1.2 kilometres. The vehicle was the very first in-flight demonstration of the Company’s proprietary solid fuel for hybrid rocket motors, the HRF-1"The LAD:Length: 2.4mDiameter: 15cmTarget Altitude: 1.5kmTotal Mass: 22kgPropulsion: Hybrid (HRF-1AL/NOX)Aren’t all solid fuel rockets using hybrid fuel by definition?
Possible meanings for HRF.High Reactivity FuelHybrid Rocket Fuel
And what is "NOX"? N2O= Nitrous Oxide? NO2=Nitrogen Dioxide?
Quote from: Jamie Anderson on 05/29/2020 08:00 amUpdate on Volans vehicle https://www.equatorialspace.com/the-volansWoah are you the Jamie Anderson in the ESI website,if so i want to ask if scaling hybrids in the Singapore context is possible.Space is no issue because we just need a warehouse in the industrial zones but does the proprietary fuel by ESI allow the successful scaling of a hybrid rocket?
Thankyou very much for that detailed update. Looking forward to seeing your rocket fly, hopefully from Whaler's Way here in South Australia! I did not know about that particular problem of using LOX for hybrids, i.e., the great amount of heat required to convert it to a gas at the injector. The only problem I was aware of previously is its tendency to cause stuck LOX valves. I wonder if Gilmour Space is facing similar difficulty, after switching from HTP to LOX in their hybrid motors.One thing, please tell your website developer to not be browser specific, or at least not give up on showing your web page! This is what I see when I visit your website.
Quote from: Aerojet Rocketdyne RS-25 on 07/10/2020 02:40 amQuote from: Jamie Anderson on 05/29/2020 08:00 amUpdate on Volans vehicle https://www.equatorialspace.com/the-volansWoah are you the Jamie Anderson in the ESI website,if so i want to ask if scaling hybrids in the Singapore context is possible.Space is no issue because we just need a warehouse in the industrial zones but does the proprietary fuel by ESI allow the successful scaling of a hybrid rocket?Hi yes that is me. Sorry for the long delay in reply, I hadn't visited NASA spaceflight forum for many months. To answer your question we intend to keep the headquarters in Singapore, but an R&D test facility will be opened shortly in Australia to enable large scale motor testing and access to launch facilities in South Australia. We don't see any issues so far with scaleability of motors based on HRF-1 as we haven't observed any of the structural issues that plague say a paraffin wax, nor the poor efficiency of rubbers like HTPB. From all my experience with hybrids which is nearing 35 years, the bulk of the scaling issues have stemmed from the various attempts to use LOX and the massive amount of heat required to convert the LOX into a gaseous form to mix & combust with the fuel. Can normally only solve that issue by introduction of heat to the oxidiser injection zone, either from devices like pre-burners or injection of pyrophoric agents (ie TEAL). We aren't burdened by this as Nitrous Oxide has a significant heat of formation that contributes to its exothermic decomposition, plus its tenancy to rapidly expand (flash into vapour) makes atomisation & mixing easier as well.We are proceeding along the development path of building a suborbital rocket named "Dorado" that is aimed at providing low cost access to micro-gravity, space physics or in-space hardware testing. The H300 motor (designation H= Hybrid & 300 = Diameter in mm) will be produced in 20kN thrust version for a sustainer & a 54kN version for a booster. A long burn duration version (>60sec) of this motor with a vacuum nozzle will form the 3rd stage of the Volans launch vehicle. Dorado is completely free of any pyrotechnic devices and has non-hazardous propulsion, so can be operated globally without the same restrictions that plague sounding rockets based on SRMs (class 1.3 explosive hazmat shipping etc).Volans vehicle first 2 stages are based on the H700 motor, which will be undergoing development firings in the later half of 2022.As for clearing up a few other things discussed in the thread..HRF-1 - Hybrid Rocket Fuel -1 the Al designates "Aluminized" (HRF-1 has been tested also without AL) Nano AL - Its not needed, the chemistry of the fuel is such that 60 micron AL has been shown to combust efficientlyIt is Wax - Definitely not made from any parrifinic oil related products, but unfortunately cant divulge what it is made from.Chilled NOX - We have gone this way for two main reasons, one to improve density (-60 give us 1120kg/m3) & secondly to reduce the NOX vapour pressure & thus oxidiser tank structural / mass requirements. We have been developing a new oxidiser delivery system we dub the eRAVEN, which is essentially an integrated rotational pump/ injector assembly that can deliver the cNOX at between 70 to 100bar.The use of the cNOX at -60c also doesn't require any innovation in composite materials, allowing us to draw on legacy automated production methods to make lower cost tank & vehicle structures.The combination of HRF-1AL/ cNOX is able to deliver Isp of over 268 sec at sea level & around 310 sec vacuum, with packaging densities far exceeding KERO/LOX due to the high density of the fuel, and low o/f range (2 to 1).Anyway hope this provides more info, also we have recently updated the website & you will find the latest representations of the planned launchers & our development pathway are given.The 19th of June was actually the 32 anniversary of the passing of George Koopman the founder of the American Rocket Company (AMROC), and we announced that our first Volans vehicle will be named the "Koopman Express" in his honor. I was very fortunate to have met and collaborated with George & he was the major inspiration toward my focus on hybrid rockets as the key to routine, and safe space access. I have attached the memorial and the mission patch announcements. www.equatorialspace.com
Perhaps cost is a factor also?? LOX is cheap, HTP is reasonable, but NOX is in a ball-park of it's own!
Quote from: Tywin on 10/22/2018 05:03 pmAnd their plan is to star the fly before end 2019 Slipped to 2021: https://equatorialspace.com/?page_id=3446
Edinburgh, 23 September 2021. – Innova Space, the Argentinian satellite development and operations company will use Equatorial Space Systems as the launch service provider for its pico satellite constellation, Equatorial Space announced.The constellation will provide Internet of Things (IoT) services globally.The agreement includes up to two launches per year to fully deploy Innova’s satellite network. Equatorial Space is “on track to begin revenue services” with their Volans launcher by 2023, CEO Simon Gwozdz said.
Quote from: PM3 on 03/14/2019 05:53 pmQuote from: Tywin on 10/22/2018 05:03 pmAnd their plan is to star the fly before end 2019 Slipped to 2021: https://equatorialspace.com/?page_id=3446... and to 2023:QuoteEdinburgh, 23 September 2021. – Innova Space, the Argentinian satellite development and operations company will use Equatorial Space Systems as the launch service provider for its pico satellite constellation, Equatorial Space announced.The constellation will provide Internet of Things (IoT) services globally.The agreement includes up to two launches per year to fully deploy Innova’s satellite network. Equatorial Space is “on track to begin revenue services” with their Volans launcher by 2023, CEO Simon Gwozdz said.https://spacewatch.global/2021/09/equatorial-space-and-innova-space-join-forces/Looks like this is one of those ever "we will launch in two years" companies.
All with less than half a million bucks in total funding till then (which is nothing in this industry) and while being practically homeless. We will see how well can you stick to self-imposed, voluntary deadlines.
Timeframes in spaceflight are always dependent on a variety of factors and often take longer than fans would like. New booster development is not for the faint of heart as there is risk. What I see here that is noteworthy and exciting are: 1) opening spaceflight service in a new part of the world, 2) developing a higher performance, more cost effective and safer hybrid motor design, 3) the work being done by a knowledgeable propulsion engineer who knows what he is talking about. As a hobby here in the U.S., I like to launch "high power" rockets (using Aerotech motors). I wonder if any of this technology could be downsized for the hobby market? If so, this could be a way to raise funds.
Quote from: PM3 on 10/06/2021 09:39 amQuote from: PM3 on 03/14/2019 05:53 pmQuote from: Tywin on 10/22/2018 05:03 pmAnd their plan is to star the fly before end 2019 Slipped to 2021: https://equatorialspace.com/?page_id=3446... and to 2023:QuoteEdinburgh, 23 September 2021. – Innova Space, the Argentinian satellite development and operations company will use Equatorial Space Systems as the launch service provider for its pico satellite constellation, Equatorial Space announced.The constellation will provide Internet of Things (IoT) services globally.The agreement includes up to two launches per year to fully deploy Innova’s satellite network. Equatorial Space is “on track to begin revenue services” with their Volans launcher by 2023, CEO Simon Gwozdz said.https://spacewatch.global/2021/09/equatorial-space-and-innova-space-join-forces/Looks like this is one of those ever "we will launch in two years" companies.You want someone to b*tch about? Go after spinlaunch or anyone else who's screwing over investors in developed ecosystems where money's easy and test site opportunities abound.Or well, you can always start your own propulsion business with a grand total of USD 3.5k in initial capital (most of what I had to my name back then), keep it running throughout some of the toughest covid restrictions on Earth and still manage to do a first launch in the region.All with less than half a million bucks in total funding till then (which is nothing in this industry) and while being practically homeless. We will see how well can you stick to self-imposed, voluntary deadlines.We are busting our asses off day and night to build a launcher company in a region that has zero real commercial rocket propulsion activity. We fight against all obstacles imaginable and you should be more than aware of the realities in Southeast Asia's space tech, since you're so well opinionated.
This confirms that it will not launch in 2023. Completing the development of an orbital rocket needs more than 100 times of that money.
I was wondering is it possible to launch from Mapur Island just off the coast of Bintan? Launching from there could be possible because there is about 400km downrange before hitting the coast of Malaysia? If not they can launch slightly southwards at about 30° inclination?
Quote from: Sushifoxx on 06/30/2022 11:03 pmI was wondering is it possible to launch from Mapur Island just off the coast of Bintan? Launching from there could be possible because there is about 400km downrange before hitting the coast of Malaysia? If not they can launch slightly southwards at about 30° inclination? Other than being surrounded by some of the busiest shipping lanes in the world (with both pirates and unruly local fishing craft weaving unpredictably in and out of your exclusion zones) and a somewhat limited range of inclinations, it seems perfectly reasonable to me. It'll be interesting to see if anyone considers it.
Quote from: CameronD on 07/01/2022 12:53 amQuote from: Sushifoxx on 06/30/2022 11:03 pmI was wondering is it possible to launch from Mapur Island just off the coast of Bintan? Launching from there could be possible because there is about 400km downrange before hitting the coast of Malaysia? If not they can launch slightly southwards at about 30° inclination? Other than being surrounded by some of the busiest shipping lanes in the world (with both pirates and unruly local fishing craft weaving unpredictably in and out of your exclusion zones) and a somewhat limited range of inclinations, it seems perfectly reasonable to me. It'll be interesting to see if anyone considers it.I guess you are right. I mean any place near Singapore is extremely busy. But considering all this, this is probably the only place that can be considered for a launch site. If the rocket is built in Singapore, you would only need to ship it a short distance there. It is also a safe distance from any civilisation.
Quote from: Sushifoxx on 07/01/2022 01:03 amQuote from: CameronD on 07/01/2022 12:53 amQuote from: Sushifoxx on 06/30/2022 11:03 pmI was wondering is it possible to launch from Mapur Island just off the coast of Bintan? Launching from there could be possible because there is about 400km downrange before hitting the coast of Malaysia? If not they can launch slightly southwards at about 30° inclination? Other than being surrounded by some of the busiest shipping lanes in the world (with both pirates and unruly local fishing craft weaving unpredictably in and out of your exclusion zones) and a somewhat limited range of inclinations, it seems perfectly reasonable to me. It'll be interesting to see if anyone considers it.I guess you are right. I mean any place near Singapore is extremely busy. But considering all this, this is probably the only place that can be considered for a launch site. If the rocket is built in Singapore, you would only need to ship it a short distance there. It is also a safe distance from any civilisation.After doing some research, launching from Mapur Island may be the only way to get to orbit while having a launch site close enough to Singapore. Very little space to launch though, maybe a southern launch is possible too, but unlikely. The Riau Islands to the northeast is also a challenge that may be faced launching from Mapur
Actually... might as well use Omelek Island because there is already existing infrastructure there. But then we need to fly AND ship the rocket which may cost more than just choosing one or the other.
I was wondering is it possible to launch from Mapur Island just off the coast of Bintan? Launching from there could be possible because there is about 400km downrange before hitting the coast of Malaysia? If not they can launch slightly southwards at about 30° inclination? Also what is the status of the Mid-Altitude Demonstrator? ESS’s website says it was supposed to launch in Q2 this year but obviously that time has come and went.
Quote from: SimonGw on 11/22/2021 02:14 pmQuote from: PM3 on 10/06/2021 09:39 amQuote from: PM3 on 03/14/2019 05:53 pmQuote from: Tywin on 10/22/2018 05:03 pmAnd their plan is to star the fly before end 2019 Slipped to 2021: https://equatorialspace.com/?page_id=3446... and to 2023:QuoteEdinburgh, 23 September 2021. – Innova Space, the Argentinian satellite development and operations company will use Equatorial Space Systems as the launch service provider for its pico satellite constellation, Equatorial Space announced.The constellation will provide Internet of Things (IoT) services globally.The agreement includes up to two launches per year to fully deploy Innova’s satellite network. Equatorial Space is “on track to begin revenue services” with their Volans launcher by 2023, CEO Simon Gwozdz said.https://spacewatch.global/2021/09/equatorial-space-and-innova-space-join-forces/Looks like this is one of those ever "we will launch in two years" companies.You want someone to b*tch about? Go after spinlaunch or anyone else who's screwing over investors in developed ecosystems where money's easy and test site opportunities abound.Or well, you can always start your own propulsion business with a grand total of USD 3.5k in initial capital (most of what I had to my name back then), keep it running throughout some of the toughest covid restrictions on Earth and still manage to do a first launch in the region.All with less than half a million bucks in total funding till then (which is nothing in this industry) and while being practically homeless. We will see how well can you stick to self-imposed, voluntary deadlines.We are busting our asses off day and night to build a launcher company in a region that has zero real commercial rocket propulsion activity. We fight against all obstacles imaginable and you should be more than aware of the realities in Southeast Asia's space tech, since you're so well opinionated.This thread is an attempt to collect and discuss all information relevant to Equatorial Space Industries. As founder of said enterprise, your presence is an excellent way to add more of that information. And indeed, this post has a lot of information. Unfortunately, it is not the type of information that inspires confidence - in multiple ways.I will attempt to refrain from exacerbating the issue with any combative terminology, but please be aware that discussion of a critic (as well as their merit relative to you) is in general irrelevant to their criticism. Additionally, excuses - even good ones - are a form of criticism acceptance, not refutation. The industry has had to accept that COVID is delaying everything. Unforeseeable delays and overruns happen, but they mean very little when discussing future prospects, except perhaps as a warning to temper expectations.I look forward to hearing more updates, even if they are delayed, by external or internal factors.Quote from: PM3 on 11/22/2021 04:19 pmThis confirms that it will not launch in 2023. Completing the development of an orbital rocket needs more than 100 times of that money.I believe there is still debate over the absolute minimum viable orbital rocket development, so I wouldn't say with certainty that an orbital rocket couldn't be developed for less than 100x that. And investment is often non-linear, so it may take less time than expected to arrive at that amount. That said, I would certainly agree that an orbital launch attempt in 2023 seems rather unlikely.
Feb 13, 2023Named after the swordfish constellation, DORADO is an upcoming family of sounding rockets under development by Equatorial Space for science, technology demonstration and academic missions. Designed to deliver payload of 25kg to apogees of 105km and 250km for the single-stage and two-stage version respectively, DORADO features a recoverable payload module and is poised to become the first commercial sounding rocket manufactured in Southeast Asia.Slated for first development flight in mid 2024, DORADO will be propelled by our H300 hybrid motor using chilled Nitrous Oxide (cNOX) as well as our patent-pending HRF-1AL solid fuel which delivers superior regression rates, mechanical properties and density to other solutions available in the market.
Feb 24, 2023NOX/HRF-1AL tested with a swirl injector.