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ESA astronaut Luca Parmitano's Beyond mission logo.

In selecting Beyond, Luca was inspired by his fellow ESA astronauts. From the nearness to Earth of Thomas Pesquet’s Proxima mission to the broadening scope of Alexander Gerst’s current Horizons mission, Luca saw a path that will push humankind even farther, for the benefit of all.

“What we do in orbit is not just for the astronauts or for the International Space Station programme, it is for everybody,” Luca explains. “It is for Earth, it is for humankind, and it is the only path for us to learn what we need in terms of science and technology in order to go beyond.”

The mission logo illustrates this trajectory. An astronaut looks out into space through a helmet visor. Earth and the Space International Station are reflected in this visor. In the distance, the Moon is poised for humankind’s return, with the Orion spacecraft and exploratory rovers. Beyond is Mars, the Red Planet, currently being studied by satellites such as ExoMars, Mars Express and, one day, by humans.
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - NET July, 2019
« Reply #1 on: 09/28/2018 07:57 am »
ESA astronaut Luca Parmitano announced the name of his second mission and logo during an event at ESA’s ESRIN establishment in Italy on 27 September 2018. Luca will be going ‘Beyond’ when he returns to the International Space Station in 2019 as part of Expedition 60/61, alongside Andrew Morgan of NASA and Alexander Skvortsov of Roscosmos.
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - NET July, 2019
« Reply #2 on: 10/01/2018 03:28 am »
As you are no doubt aware, the Soyuz MS-13 will be the last flight involving the Soyuz-FG, judging from the Russian Launch Manifest (http://www.sworld.com.au/steven/space/russia-man.txt). Literally, the Soyuz-FG's analog control system has limited its capabilities, which is why Roscosmos has opted to phase out the Soyuz-FG early next year, and the Soyuz-2's digital flight control system allows it to be launched from a fixed launch platform.

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - NET July, 2019
« Reply #3 on: 10/01/2018 01:09 pm »
As you are no doubt aware, the Soyuz MS-13 will be the last flight involving the Soyuz-FG, judging from the Russian Launch Manifest (http://www.sworld.com.au/steven/space/russia-man.txt). Literally, the Soyuz-FG's analog control system has limited its capabilities, which is why Roscosmos has opted to phase out the Soyuz-FG early next year, and the Soyuz-2's digital flight control system allows it to be launched from a fixed launch platform.
Launches for crew still require rotation to the launch azimuth unless they replace the existing launch escape system. Soyuz-FG contains Ukrainian Avionics and is the real reason it is slated for retirement.

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - NET July, 2019
« Reply #4 on: 10/01/2018 01:24 pm »
As you are no doubt aware, the Soyuz MS-13 will be the last flight involving the Soyuz-FG, judging from the Russian Launch Manifest (http://www.sworld.com.au/steven/space/russia-man.txt). Literally, the Soyuz-FG's analog control system has limited its capabilities, which is why Roscosmos has opted to phase out the Soyuz-FG early next year, and the Soyuz-2's digital flight control system allows it to be launched from a fixed launch platform.
Launches for crew still require rotation to the launch azimuth unless they replace the existing launch escape system. Soyuz-FG contains Ukrainian Avionics and is the real reason it is slated for retirement.

Following up on this:
So, the launch platform table will still be rotated to the ISS launch azimuth for all ISS flights, after LV upgrade to Soyuz-2-1a?

And there are no plans to replace the current LES?

Why is the LP table rotation to proper azimuth still required with the current LES?  Is it because of the way the LES is built or programmed, to ensure the Soyuz Descent Module lands in a safe launch abort zone on-site at Baikonur?
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - NET July, 2019
« Reply #5 on: 10/01/2018 01:49 pm »
As you are no doubt aware, the Soyuz MS-13 will be the last flight involving the Soyuz-FG, judging from the Russian Launch Manifest (http://www.sworld.com.au/steven/space/russia-man.txt). Literally, the Soyuz-FG's analog control system has limited its capabilities, which is why Roscosmos has opted to phase out the Soyuz-FG early next year, and the Soyuz-2's digital flight control system allows it to be launched from a fixed launch platform.
Launches for crew still require rotation to the launch azimuth unless they replace the existing launch escape system. Soyuz-FG contains Ukrainian Avionics and is the real reason it is slated for retirement.

Following up on this:
So, the launch platform table will still be rotated to the ISS launch azimuth for all ISS flights, after LV upgrade to Soyuz-2-1a?

And there are no plans to replace the current LES?

Why is the LP table rotation to proper azimuth still required with the current LES?  Is it because of the way the LES is built or programmed, to ensure the Soyuz Descent Module lands in a safe launch abort zone on-site at Baikonur?
yes.
no.
Because of Soyuz LES design limitations. Would trigger on roll to launch azimuth after exceeding 7 degrees of rotation and deviation.
It has been discussed during the recent Progress-MS tests on Soyuz-2.1A for Soyuz-MS. It should be stated in the respective NSF articles.

Reference to the original incident: http://russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-7k-ok-no1-explosion.html

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - NET July, 2019
« Reply #6 on: 10/01/2018 03:18 pm »
Therefore, i do not understand the orientation of the launch pad in Vostochny. In the middle of the woods.
The rocket-azimuth points to the south or south-south-east.
The Soyuz will never start to the south.
Why was the pad not aligned to the east, if the Soyuz should eventually start there manned in the future?
(And the Meteor-M would also still alive.)
Manned launches via the Soyuz pad Site-1S is not planned. Site-2 super heavy pads will be used.

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - NET July, 2019
« Reply #7 on: 10/01/2018 03:40 pm »
Thanks, I had deleted my post in the meantime.
Because I thought it was too much off topic. Sorry  :-[
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - NET July, 2019
« Reply #8 on: 10/27/2018 11:18 am »
New ESA portraits of Luca Parmitano:

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - NET July, 2019
« Reply #11 on: 01/22/2019 02:36 pm »
Manned launches via the Soyuz pad Site-1S is not planned.
Even if they would, Soyuz-2 can do a roll so pad orientation doesn't matter.

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - NET July, 2019
« Reply #12 on: 01/22/2019 02:42 pm »
Manned launches via the Soyuz pad Site-1S is not planned.
Even if they would, Soyuz-2 can do a roll so pad orientation doesn't matter.
Not unless upgrade the escape system. It's limitations area well documented. Also there is not crew escape tunnels at 1S.

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - July 2019
« Reply #14 on: 01/26/2019 07:31 pm »
Soyuz MS-13 launching on July 6, 2019; 215-day mission duration.

https://sputniknews.com/science/201901031071180058-russia-soyuz-space-iss-mission-record/
Russian Soyuz Vehicles to Carry Out Record-Long Missions to ISS in 2019 - Source
Article dated January 3, 2019
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"Soyuz MS-12 is to be launched on March 1 and is to land on October 3 with the mission duration of 216 days. Soyuz MS-13 is launched on July 6 and lands on February 6, 2020, with the mission duration of 215 days," the source said.
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - Baikonur - July 2019
« Reply #18 on: 03/28/2019 12:39 pm »
Cross-post; possible launch delay to July 20, and full use of the current Soyuz life-on-orbit capability?:
https://ria.ru/20190328/1552174574.html
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"The American side appealed to the Russian with a request to postpone the launch of the Union MS-13 for two weeks - from 6 to 20 July, as well as to extend its flight for two months - from December 2019 until February 2020," the source said.
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-13 - Baikonur - July 2019
« Reply #19 on: 03/30/2019 05:11 pm »
NASA TV schedule:

April 19, Friday
2 p.m. – International Space Station Expedition 60-61 Crew News Conference (Skvortsov, Morgan, Parmitano)
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