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Kompas-3 and Sumbandila launch
by
sammie
on 30 Sep, 2006 13:10
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OK, it's still a far away, but I find this launch somehow interesting. So that's why I start a thread about it already.
Just a reminder of what this launch is about. The
satellite is developed and produced (exept for the solar panels and batteries) in South Africa. It will be launched around Christmas time on a
Shtil' 2.1 from a submarine in the Barentz Sea.
For people with a basic knowledge of Dutch/Afrikaans, more information can be found
here If the satellite passes the final tests it will be shipped to Russia in November and launched between 20 and 25 december. The satellite is equipped with a multi-spectre camera and has a ground resolution of 6,25 meter. The link also includes a picture.
If someone has updates on this launch, please post them here
(Damn what is Afrikaans een "grappige" language
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#1
by
Danderman
on 30 Sep, 2006 15:03
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#2
by
Danderman
on 02 Oct, 2006 15:35
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The Shtil User Guide:
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#3
by
Satori
on 14 Oct, 2006 14:21
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Any more news about Sumbandila launch?? There is some confusion about the previous launch date of December 25th (now planned to be the Kompas-3 launch)...
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#4
by
sammie
on 15 Oct, 2006 11:34
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I haven't been able to find new updates on any of the websites (such ans SunSpace or Stellenbosch). It could easily that both the Kompass 3 and Sumbandila will be lofted on the same launch vehicle, performance wise.
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#5
by
sammie
on 09 Nov, 2006 12:13
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fairly new story
here, its dated 7 november.
Sumbandila recently successfully completed a series of performance tests at the Institute for Satellite and Software Applications, at Grabouw, near Cape Town. Sumbandila will be handed over to the DST on 15 November and be shipped to a naval facility near Murmansk, in northern Russia.
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#6
by
sammie
on 15 Feb, 2007 19:05
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*bump*
Its been a while, new article to found
hereHighlights
*Science and Technology Minister, Mosibudi Mangena, says the SUMBANDILAsat, set to be launched in May
no other news
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#7
by
publiusr
on 18 Feb, 2007 19:11
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In general, I think a lot of Russian rockets---but the SLBMs are another matter.
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#8
by
sammie
on 11 May, 2007 21:51
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www.satindex.com reports that the sat will finally be flown to Russia on May 14. So lets hope that launch will actually happen anytime soon after that...
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#9
by
anik
on 02 Jun, 2007 09:24
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This schedule does not contain Kompas-3/Sumbandila launch in June, therefore it means that this launch is postponed again...
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#10
by
Satori
on 17 Jun, 2007 17:49
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The Sumbandila launch will take place in July according to
this!
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#11
by
anik
on 25 Jun, 2007 19:31
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#12
by
Skyrocket
on 09 Nov, 2007 17:18
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Any info on the status of this launch?
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#13
by
anik
on 09 Nov, 2007 17:33
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Skyrocket - 9/11/2007 9:18 PM
Any info on the status of this launch?
Only rumour published
here...
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#14
by
sammie
on 24 Jan, 2008 16:15
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hint provided by the free preview from
satellite news digest and a full article provided by
Industry Watch.
It seems that the SA-002 won't be launched because South Africa doesn't allow a telementry site to be build on it's territory. Whether this was part of the contract or just additional demands from Russia I don't know. I assume the sat is actually in Russia by now
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#15
by
William Graham
on 24 Jan, 2008 17:39
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So what about Kompas-3?
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#16
by
osiossim
on 25 Jan, 2008 12:48
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This is also very unfortunate for South Africa. The satellite was waiting to be launched since December 2006. Its January 2008 and the satellite is still on the storage. If the cause on the news is right, there is no chance for the other Russian launchers to fly Sumbandilasat. Some others are another issue. Politics are always involved in high tech business. Another example is Theos....Also remember Tecsar....
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#17
by
ASTUTE
on 26 Jan, 2008 12:09
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Why Kompas-3?
That would be Kompas-2 or Kompas-2N.
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#18
by
Skyrocket
on 26 Jan, 2008 12:54
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ASTUTE - 26/1/2008 2:09 PM
Why Kompas-3?
That would be Kompas-2 or Kompas-2N.
Kompas-2 has already been launched, and the satellite originally refered to Kompas-2N is apparently now called Kompas-3.
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#19
by
Jirka Dlouhy
on 26 Jan, 2008 21:33
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Is other opportunity to launch Sumbandilla atop of another launcher? Do You have any information?
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#20
by
anik
on 27 Jan, 2008 06:49
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Jirka Dlouhy - 27/1/2008 1:33 AM
Is other opportunity to launch Sumbandilla atop of another launcher? Do You have any information?
Quotes from previous page:
anik - 9/11/2007 9:33 PM
Skyrocket - 9/11/2007 9:18 PM
Any info on the status of this launch?
Only rumour published here...
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#21
by
osiossim
on 18 Feb, 2008 08:51
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#22
by
Skyrocket
on 18 Feb, 2008 09:00
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osiossim - 18/2/2008 10:51 AM
Russian launches for foreigner satellites turn out to be more problematic. We saw Sumbandilasat, lets see if Theos will manage or not....
Simple commercial contracts are not really mor problematic, but it becomes mor problematic, when politcal decissions are involved or other deals are connected with the launch deal - as it is probably in the Sumbandila case:
"The disagreement is said to involve a second Russian satellite, which the South African Defence Ministry did not want to use."
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#23
by
osiossim
on 18 Feb, 2008 09:40
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Skyrocket - 18/2/2008 12:00 PM
Simple commercial contracts are not really mor problematic, but it becomes mor problematic, when politcal decissions are involved or other deals are connected with the launch deal - as it is probably in the Sumbandila case:
Sumbandilasat was 6.5m optical satellite for scientific purposes. Russians wanted to use advantage of this launch and wanted to establish TT&C station in SA which refers to the "Russian Satellite" on the news. It used to be a commercial launch at the begining, I assume, then Russians' request made it political....
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#24
by
anik
on 30 May, 2008 13:55
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SA, Russia to meet next month to finalise Sumbandila satellite launchhttp://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article.php?a_id=134155 "South Africa and Russia were finalising the details for the launch of the multi-billion rand Sumbandila science satellite later this year, the Department of Foreign Affairs said at the weekend.
Foreign Affairs Minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma said the two countries have agreed to meet before the end of June to "thrash out details" of the launch of the South African satellite.
The Minister was speaking at the South Africa-Russia intergovernmental committee on Trade and Economic Cooperation in Moscow, which was attended by high-level Russian delegates, as well as South African Minerals and Energy DG Sandile Nogxina, and representatives from Eskom, Umthobo Resources, Diamond Trader, Mintek, PetroSA, Pelawan and Sekoko Mining"
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#25
by
osiossim
on 02 Jun, 2008 10:05
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SA, Russia to meet next month to finalise Sumbandila satellite launch
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article.php?a_id=134155
"South Africa and Russia were finalising the details for the launch of the multi-billion rand Sumbandila science satellite later this year, the Department of Foreign Affairs said at the weekend.
Foreign Affairs Minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma said the two countries have agreed to meet before the end of June to "thrash out details" of the launch of the South African satellite.
The Minister was speaking at the South Africa-Russia intergovernmental committee on Trade and Economic Cooperation in Moscow, which was attended by high-level Russian delegates, as well as South African Minerals and Energy DG Sandile Nogxina, and representatives from Eskom, Umthobo Resources, Diamond Trader, Mintek, PetroSA, Pelawan and Sekoko Mining"
New seperation ring and other environmental tests will delay the launch as well as force Sunspace to change the structure, if they go something different than Shtil.
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#26
by
ASTUTE
on 02 Jun, 2008 19:24
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New seperation ring and other environmental tests will delay the launch as well as force Sunspace to change the structure, if they go something different than Shtil.
Unfortunately Shtill is out of discussing thus Kompas is out of discussing as well.
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#27
by
osiossim
on 10 Jun, 2008 06:36
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#28
by
anik
on 01 Jul, 2008 20:17
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Russia and SA to discuss alternative launch option for Sumbandilahttp://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article.php?a_id=136940"A Russian delegation is due in South Africa in the near future to discuss an alternative launch option for South Africa’s Sumbandila satellite.
Sumbandila-Sat was originally meant to have been launched last year from a Russian submarine. However, the Russian Ministry of Defence refused to authorise the launch. Russia’s civilian space agency, Roskosmos, nevertheless wishes to honour its agreement with South Africa to launch the satellite.
The Russian delegation will be discussing the possible launch of the South African satellite on a Russian civilian rocket from the world-renowned Baikonur Cosmodrome"
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#29
by
osiossim
on 02 Jul, 2008 06:19
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#30
by
William Graham
on 02 Jul, 2008 06:51
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Russia and SA to discuss alternative launch option for Sumbandila
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article.php?a_id=136940
Is there any other launcher than Dnepr which launches from Baikonur?
Soyuz, Proton, Zenit and Strela to name four. It says civilian, not commercial.
I suspect that it will end up on the Soyuz-2.1b launching at the end of the year with a Meteor satellite. Anik listed a "foreign satellite" as being part of the payload.
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#31
by
osiossim
on 02 Jul, 2008 09:49
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No, I meant launch to LEO orbit from Baikonur. Strela has not successfully flight yet, Zenith doesnt launch to LEO. Does Proton used to launch to LEO orbit?
The most relevant candidate seems like Dnepr, if ISCK can really launch from Baikonur again.
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#32
by
Skyrocket
on 02 Jul, 2008 11:15
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No, I meant launch to LEO orbit from Baikonur. Strela has not successfully flight yet, Zenith doesnt launch to LEO. Does Proton used to launch to LEO orbit?
The most relevant candidate seems like Dnepr, if ISCK can really launch from Baikonur again.
Strela has flown once in 2003, Zenit and Proton have flown numerous LEO Missions.
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#33
by
anik
on 29 Aug, 2008 15:23
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#34
by
Skyrocket
on 02 Sep, 2008 12:24
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So Kompas-3 will fly alone on the Shtil booster or will it also be launched piggyback on another mission?
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#35
by
osiossim
on 10 Sep, 2008 09:30
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So Kompas-3 will fly alone on the Shtil booster or will it also be launched piggyback on another mission?
It could be unlikely if Sun Space return her face to Makayev once again!
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#36
by
osiossim
on 15 Sep, 2008 08:25
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#37
by
anik
on 24 Sep, 2008 15:28
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Quote from
http://johnhelmer.net/?p=504"This week [September 8-14 - anik], Vyacheslav Mikhailchenko, spokesman for Roskosmos, told BD that an agreement is now in place for the Sumbandila launch to take place. The timing, he said, is likely to be between December 25 of this year and March 25, 2009; and will depend on the launching schedule at Baikonour. “Agreement on launch of the satellite was reached, and now the specialists are working on the technical issues. The launch will run in compliance with a governmental decree, which is being prepared now. There are technical questions, and since both parties have reached an agreement, this decree is a purely technical procedure the Russian side is obliged to resolve.”"
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#38
by
osiossim
on 25 Sep, 2008 12:58
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#39
by
osiossim
on 26 Nov, 2008 08:43
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#40
by
osiossim
on 26 Jan, 2009 08:11
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#41
by
William Graham
on 26 Jan, 2009 08:25
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#42
by
osiossim
on 26 Jan, 2009 10:36
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I wonder how SunSpace managed to adapt the satellite to the new separation interface?
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