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LC 17
« on: 07/12/2018 03:21 AM »
A remembrance.  Because of what's about to happen early July 12.

August 17, 1958.  The first U.S. effort at a lunar (orbital) probe, back when no man-made object had exceeded 3,900 km in Earth orbit, yet alone reached the Moon.  Back before Thor had orbited any satellite.  Back when Thor failed more often than it succeeded.  Thor 127 with a guided "Able" (Vanguard-derived) second stage and an ABL X-248 "Altair" spin-stabilized solid rocket motor third stage, making a "Thor-Able 1" with "Pioneer 0" standing on Launch Complex 17A, preparing to go for broke. 

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #1 on: 07/12/2018 03:45 AM »
Do we know what time they will be demolished?

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #2 on: 07/12/2018 03:46 AM »
Do we know what time they will be demolished?
News story suggested 7 am local time.

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #3 on: 07/12/2018 01:02 PM »
From Michael Seeley facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10214611015801387&set=pcb.10214611017761436&type=3&theater
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“This is opportunity” says Brig. Gen. Monteith, moments before triggering the demo of historic LC17 at CCAFS & @45thSpaceWing, cleared for use by @MoonExpressInc.

325 missions were launched from these pads over 61 yrs; last launch was a DeltaII nearly 7 yrs ago.

(Pics: me / @WeReportSpace)

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #4 on: 07/12/2018 01:04 PM »

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #6 on: 07/12/2018 01:18 PM »
Article, using some of the history of the pad by William Graham:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/07/capes-lc-17-demolished-decades-service/

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #7 on: 07/12/2018 04:10 PM »
Article, using some of the history of the pad by William Graham:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/07/capes-lc-17-demolished-decades-service/

"The first launch of the Delta II Heavy occurred on June 10, 2003, carrying the Spirit spacecraft and rover bound for Mars"
I think Opportunity launched on a Delta II Heavy, not Spirit.

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #8 on: 07/12/2018 04:13 PM »
Towers demolished at Cape Canaveral's Launch Complex 17


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Published on Jul 12, 2018

Seven years after they hosted their last launch, the twin towers at Launch Complex 17 in Cape Canaveral, Florida were demolished on Thursday, July 12, 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLjTkXvAseg?t=001

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #9 on: 07/12/2018 06:11 PM »
CCAFS, including LC 17, photographed by KH-9 HEXAGON (mission 1205-3) on April 13, 1973 (low-resolution preview image from https://earthexplorer.usgs.gov)

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #10 on: 07/13/2018 04:27 AM »
Space Launch Complex 17 Demolition

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Published on Jul 12, 2018

Brig. Gen. Wayne Monteith, commander of the 45th Space Wing, activates the detonator for the demolition of the Delta II towers at Space Launch Complex-17 July 12, 2018 on Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. The towers were demolished to make room for the new inhabitant of the pad, Moon Express.

Video by Airman 1st Class Zoe Thacker 45th Space Wing Public Affairs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqL8qNRadbQ?t=001


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Re: LC 17
« Reply #11 on: 07/13/2018 07:31 PM »
August 17, 1958.  The first U.S. effort at a lunar (orbital) probe, back when no man-made object had exceeded 3,900 km in Earth orbit, yet alone reached the Moon.  Back before Thor had orbited any satellite.  Back when Thor failed more often than it succeeded.

Four pad explosions in 15 months, two of them due to Douglas technicians making easily avoidable mistakes. In all cases, LC-17A and B were restored to use in a few weeks because of the design--the Thors were suspended above a large open ramp that gave the blast wave lots of room to disperse.

D241 apparently didn't result in major damage either despite the Delta still being directly above the pad, but it did destroy some parked cars in the area.

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #12 on: 07/13/2018 08:16 PM »
still another view..

Cape Canaveral's SLC-17 Demolished
SpaceFlight Insider - Official Page
Published on Jul 13, 2018

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Cape Canaveral Air Force Station's Space Launch Complex 17 was demolished via controlled explosions on Thursday, July 12, 2018. Both structures that supported the flights of Delta and other rockets from the Eastern Range were brought down. Their destruction marked the end of an era that began in 1957. The site will now be used by the commercial space company Moon Express. Video Credit: Mike Howard / SpaceFlight Insider

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNRhY2657ww?t=001

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #13 on: 07/16/2018 08:55 AM »
Space Launch Complex 17 demolition

By TSgt. Erin Smith, 45th Space Wing Public Affairs / Published July 13, 2018

CAPE CANAVERAL AIR FORCE STATION, Fla. --  With a final farewell and the push of a plunger, Brig. Gen. Wayne Monteith, 45th Space Wing Commander, demolished the nearly 200-foot-tall towers at 7 a.m. July 12 at Space Launch Complex 17, Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.

 The demolition of the towers marks the first phase of a contract, which was awarded in September 2016 and involved demolition of the Delta II towers, associated structures, and includes pavements and site restoration.

“The towers were workhorses in their day, supporting 325 launches between 1957 and 2011,” General Monteith said. “For many, this launch complex bridged the Space Age from the early days to the era of large boosters. It’s a bittersweet day as we say goodbye to these iconic towers, but their demolition paves the way for innovation as Moon Express comes to work on the same hallowed ground as the LC-17 crews.”

Launch Complex 17 was built for the Air Force’s THOR Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile (IRBM) research and development in 1956, and it was used by the Air Force and NASA to support DELTA launch operations until September 10, 2011. The complex consisted of two launch pads, Pad 17A and Pad 17B. The NAVSTAR Global Positioning Satellite launched from Pad 17A on February 14, 1989.

 Approximately 16,000 tons of metal and more than 2,000 tons of concrete will be recycled from these demolition phases, as part of the $1.9 million project. 

“This is the busiest space port in the entire world, right here in Brevard County in Florida. There is nothing more exciting that we do than preparing for the future,” General Monteith said. “We make history every single week here on the range, and today we get to be a part of future history. I want to stay in this business and keep diving us forward in maintaining American supremacy in space all the way through the future.”

Moon Express plans to repurpose the site and use it for lunar lander development and flight test operations.

“We are moving to the future,” he said. “The hard work that occurred at this pad is a testament to the DOD and NASA workers that made their mark and paved the way to where we are today. The work that goes on here is absolutely remarkable, and we look forward to the successes of Moon Express as they work on the same ground as the LC-17 Crews, and you have some pretty big shoes to fill.”

For more information on the history of SLC 17,
visit http://afspacemuseum.org/library/histories/Delta.pdf

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #14 on: 07/18/2018 02:19 PM »
Deimos-2 captured Cape Canaveral's LC-17 before and after the twin towers there were demolished.

The images passed on to us below (Credit: “Deimos Imaging, an UrtheCast Company”).

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #15 on: 07/19/2018 05:46 PM »
Great history and photos!
Very interesting!

Are there any plans for LC-17 to be used again in the future?
I seem to remember some discussion awhile back about it being too close to busy and populous Port Canaveral area, so once all the Delta II launches were completed, it would be deactivated and not used again.  Just wondering if that was the actual plan or not?

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Re: LC 17
« Reply #16 on: 07/20/2018 02:08 AM »
Great history and photos!
Very interesting!

Are there any plans for LC-17 to be used again in the future?
I seem to remember some discussion awhile back about it being too close to busy and populous Port Canaveral area, so once all the Delta II launches were completed, it would be deactivated and not used again.  Just wondering if that was the actual plan or not?

Moon Express has leased the site to test their lunar landers.
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