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#260
by
sdsds
on 07 Dec, 2023 00:38
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[...] Also, no gray band on the second stage, so no extended mission for the second stage.
Does the absence of a gray band rule out a launch to GTO?
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#261
by
zubenelgenubi
on 07 Dec, 2023 00:51
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[...] Also, no gray band on the second stage, so no extended mission for the second stage.
Does the absence of a gray band rule out a launch to GTO?
GTO, I think not.
GSO, probably? The apogee burn + inclination reduction, might be done by the spacecraft + service module?
HEO? May not need an apogee burn at all.
Edited
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#262
by
Alexphysics
on 07 Dec, 2023 02:47
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Given the launch groundtrack I still don't know why the talk of GTO, it's very obviously not going to any GTO (unless you define GTO as any highly elliptical orbit at any orbital inclination, in which case you probably a very wide definition of what a GTO is...)
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#263
by
realnouns
on 07 Dec, 2023 02:56
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Doug departed PC on Nov 6 @ 7:20pm ET
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#264
by
GewoonLukas_
on 07 Dec, 2023 15:22
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3/x
A second possibly related Navigational Warning has appeared for what is likely the 2nd stage disposal.
The shape and location does indicate a dogleg to a high inclination. #USSF52 #OTV7 #X37B
Will analyse further later today.
@planet4589 @DutchSpace
https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/1732717473118453919
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#265
by
GewoonLukas_
on 07 Dec, 2023 16:01
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#266
by
Jim
on 07 Dec, 2023 16:25
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Mission to GEO, after all.
Or a NOSS/Molniya HEO.
Well, well.
As Kosh says: "And so it begins."
its not geo! its GSO! geo is 0 degree inclination
No, GSO is 0 degree inclination. Any other inclination is not "stationary"
gso is geosyncrinous ourbit not geostationary orbit! geo (geostationary orbit) is zero degrees GSO is not
GSO is Geostationary orbit. GEO is Geosynchronous Earth orbit.
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#267
by
Ken the Bin
on 07 Dec, 2023 16:59
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This NGA Space Debris notice referenced a few posts above does not appear to me to be related to this launch, but I could be wrong.
071019Z DEC 23
NAVAREA XII 846/23(16,17,19).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
110001Z TO 111615Z DEC, ALTERNATE
0001Z TO 1615Z DAILY 12 THRU 17 DEC
IN AREA BOUND BY
51-04N 152-41W, 53-27N 141-07W,
41-40N 136-32W, 38-43N 146-53W
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 171715Z DEC 23.//
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#268
by
rocketenthusiast
on 07 Dec, 2023 19:33
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Mission to GEO, after all.
Or a NOSS/Molniya HEO.
Well, well.
As Kosh says: "And so it begins."
its not geo! its GSO! geo is 0 degree inclination
No, GSO is 0 degree inclination. Any other inclination is not "stationary"
gso is geosyncrinous ourbit not geostationary orbit! geo (geostationary orbit) is zero degrees GSO is not
GSO is Geostationary orbit. GEO is Geosynchronous Earth orbit.
its the opposite GSO is Geosynchronous Earth orbit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_orbitGEO is Geostationary orbit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit
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#269
by
OneSpeed
on 08 Dec, 2023 01:40
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NGA Rocket Launching notice.
This NGA Space Debris notice referenced a few posts above does not appear to me to be related to this launch, but I could be wrong.
If the Space Debris notice
is for this mission, then the orbital inclination will have changed from around 52.5° at orbital insertion, to around 78.8° at second stage re-entry.
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#270
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 08 Dec, 2023 06:09
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https://twitter.com/starfleettours/status/1732954757843525940🚀 FALCON HEAVY LAUNCH VIEWING CHARTER LATEST UPDATE: Marine and launch weather forecasts are both unfavorable for Sunday’s evening launch. The Space Force predicts a 90% chance of precipitation, 60% probability of lightning, and the possibility of severe storms during the afternoon and evening hours.
Edit/add:
https://twitter.com/StarFleetTours/status/1732954759772946487🌊 Additionally, winds could gust up to 35 knots (≈40 mi/hr, ≈65 km/h) with waves reaching four to five feet high. Due to these conditions, a launch is unlikely as scheduled. It could also be unsafe to be out on the water.
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#271
by
GewoonLukas_
on 08 Dec, 2023 14:05
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Falcon Heavy is rolling out of the hangar to LC-39A (SpaceflightNow view)
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#272
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 08 Dec, 2023 14:41
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#273
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 08 Dec, 2023 14:58
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NSF Space Coast Live rollout views
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#274
by
Ken the Bin
on 08 Dec, 2023 18:11
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This NGA Space Debris notice referenced a few posts above does not appear to me to be related to this launch, but I could be wrong.
071019Z DEC 23
NAVAREA XII 846/23(16,17,19).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
110001Z TO 111615Z DEC, ALTERNATE
0001Z TO 1615Z DAILY 12 THRU 17 DEC
IN AREA BOUND BY
51-04N 152-41W, 53-27N 141-07W,
41-40N 136-32W, 38-43N 146-53W
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 171715Z DEC 23.//
A cancel-and-replace NGA notice with a smaller time window within the original window and a smaller hazard area within the original area.
081805Z DEC 23
NAVAREA XII 854/23(16,17,19).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
111253Z TO 111354Z DEC, ALTERNATE
1252Z TO 1354Z DAILY 12 THRU 17 DEC
IN AREA BOUND BY
51-34.00N 141-57.00W, 49-51.00N 150-42.00W,
40-55.00N 146-02.00W, 42-38.00N 138-36.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 846/23.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 171454Z DEC 23.
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#275
by
Ken the Bin
on 08 Dec, 2023 18:17
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Issued a little more than a half-hour later than the one I just posted above (which was delayed because I was away from the computer for a while) is this cancel-and-replace Rocket Launching notice, which has a smaller time window reflective of the ten-minute launch window announced by the SSC.
081842Z DEC 23
NAVAREA IV 1420/23(GEN).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
110114Z TO 110155Z DEC, ALTERNATE 0113Z TO 0155Z
DAILY 12 THRU 17 DEC IN AREAS BOUND BY:
A. 28-39.16N 080-37.80W, 29-12.00N 079-57.00W,
29-10.00N 079-55.00W, 28-36.00N 080-15.00W,
28-29.00N 080-24.00W, 28-27.59N 080-31.55W,
28-27.94N 080-31.75W.
B. 30-30.00N 078-35.00W, 30-58.00N 078-09.00W,
30-52.00N 077-58.00W, 30-24.00N 078-23.00W.
C. 36-07.00N 071-37.00W, 38-06.00N 069-34.00W,
38-17.00N 068-32.00W, 38-13.00N 068-27.00W,
37-32.00N 068-50.00W, 35-58.00N 071-28.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1414/23.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 170255Z DEC 23.
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#276
by
SpaceCadet1983
on 08 Dec, 2023 21:48
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Here's Boeing's OTV-7 patch. Pretty bland. Like Boeing's OTV-6 patch.
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#277
by
Jester
on 09 Dec, 2023 09:01
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Issued a little more than a half-hour later than the one I just posted above (which was delayed because I was away from the computer for a while) is this cancel-and-replace Rocket Launching notice, which has a smaller time window reflective of the ten-minute launch window announced by the SSC.
081842Z DEC 23
NAVAREA IV 1420/23(GEN).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
110114Z TO 110155Z DEC, ALTERNATE 0113Z TO 0155Z
DAILY 12 THRU 17 DEC IN AREAS BOUND BY:
A. 28-39.16N 080-37.80W, 29-12.00N 079-57.00W,
29-10.00N 079-55.00W, 28-36.00N 080-15.00W,
28-29.00N 080-24.00W, 28-27.59N 080-31.55W,
28-27.94N 080-31.75W.
B. 30-30.00N 078-35.00W, 30-58.00N 078-09.00W,
30-52.00N 077-58.00W, 30-24.00N 078-23.00W.
C. 36-07.00N 071-37.00W, 38-06.00N 069-34.00W,
38-17.00N 068-32.00W, 38-13.00N 068-27.00W,
37-32.00N 068-50.00W, 35-58.00N 071-28.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1414/23.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 170255Z DEC 23.
Curious, why is this update not listed on the NGA website ?
https://msi.nga.mil/queryResults?publications/broadcast-warn?navArea=4&msgNumber=1420&msgYear=2023&output=html
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#278
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 09 Dec, 2023 09:39
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FH being raised last night
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#279
by
Ken the Bin
on 09 Dec, 2023 12:44
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Issued a little more than a half-hour later than the one I just posted above (which was delayed because I was away from the computer for a while) is this cancel-and-replace Rocket Launching notice, which has a smaller time window reflective of the ten-minute launch window announced by the SSC.
081842Z DEC 23
NAVAREA IV 1420/23(GEN).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
110114Z TO 110155Z DEC, ALTERNATE 0113Z TO 0155Z
DAILY 12 THRU 17 DEC IN AREAS BOUND BY:
A. 28-39.16N 080-37.80W, 29-12.00N 079-57.00W,
29-10.00N 079-55.00W, 28-36.00N 080-15.00W,
28-29.00N 080-24.00W, 28-27.59N 080-31.55W,
28-27.94N 080-31.75W.
B. 30-30.00N 078-35.00W, 30-58.00N 078-09.00W,
30-52.00N 077-58.00W, 30-24.00N 078-23.00W.
C. 36-07.00N 071-37.00W, 38-06.00N 069-34.00W,
38-17.00N 068-32.00W, 38-13.00N 068-27.00W,
37-32.00N 068-50.00W, 35-58.00N 071-28.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1414/23.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 170255Z DEC 23.
Curious, why is this update not listed on the NGA website ?
https://msi.nga.mil/queryResults?publications/broadcast-warn?navArea=4&msgNumber=1420&msgYear=2023&output=html
The website always runs somewhat behind. It looks like NAVAREA IV on the website only has through 1414/23.