Quote from: kevinof on 12/07/2018 06:37 amQuote from: Lars-J on 12/07/2018 05:58 amQuote from: Roy_H on 12/07/2018 05:13 amSo, this shows the rocket under tow. Looks like north instead of south?At that point I believe it was just anchored in place. What looks like movement is likely the current heading south.Far as I know the current there is northbound. Either way I think it's just being held in place and not actively towing.No, it landed off-shore the landing pad, and drifted south towards Port Canaveral where it was at that point.
Quote from: Lars-J on 12/07/2018 05:58 amQuote from: Roy_H on 12/07/2018 05:13 amSo, this shows the rocket under tow. Looks like north instead of south?At that point I believe it was just anchored in place. What looks like movement is likely the current heading south.Far as I know the current there is northbound. Either way I think it's just being held in place and not actively towing.
Quote from: Roy_H on 12/07/2018 05:13 amSo, this shows the rocket under tow. Looks like north instead of south?At that point I believe it was just anchored in place. What looks like movement is likely the current heading south.
So, this shows the rocket under tow. Looks like north instead of south?
Regardless of any gashes and landing legs being intentionally removed or torn off by Aquaman himself (clearly this whole thing is paid promotion from DC Comics proving water > space):The stage has been in salt water for nearly 30 hours already and even if it would be out by 9 AM sharp tomorrow morning, 44 hours. Then hydraulics already failed before landing, who knows what caused that, and the whole thing took a sizeable whack when it tipped over into water and spent however many hours it will ultimately be subjected to the constant forces of ocean waves jerking it around, which might or might not have torn any gashes into it.Add the recovery to it, it's not something that's really been done before so they might as well further damage it even with the best intentions.All that taken together: Do you think this stage will ever fly again?The way I see it, even if they successfully recover it, which seems like quite a headache, all value this stage has is forensics, which might be valuable in itself though.
At least some of the grid fins will fly again. (They are expensive as hell.)
Anything electrical will be a write-off straight away. For example, water gets down the inside of wires and that's made worse if there's any current in it when it's immersed: even though wires might look okay, they can fail 6, 12, 18 months later. Not the end of the world if it's a little outboard motor on a boat, but a big problem if it's part of a rocket.
Quote from: Hauerg on 12/07/2018 08:57 amAt least some of the grid fins will fly again. (They are expensive as hell.)This recovery effort is worth it just to get the fins back.
So is there a thread following the berthing operations for Dragon? IIRC there was always a thread for this but I cannot seem to find it.
Eagle captain is talking to SpaceX on the radio. The plan is to bring it into the west basin, then turn it around with two boats.The webcam-that-shall-not-be-named has a lovely view of the entrance to the port this morning.
Now if only I could remember the name of that webcam that shall not be named....Quote from: sghill on 12/07/2018 01:32 pmEagle captain is talking to SpaceX on the radio. The plan is to bring it into the west basin, then turn it around with two boats.The webcam-that-shall-not-be-named has a lovely view of the entrance to the port this morning.
After the last time they soft landed a booster in the water, they should have had a contingency plan in place.
Not sure why this is such a difficult problem to solve. SpaceX owns a MARMAC barge, this is designed to do things like this.. Drive lift crane onto OCISLY, dispatch to booster w/ tug, Lift booster on to deck, return to dock, drive crane off OCISLY, deal with booster..... It's like watching mimes in a box... guys... there IS no box.There is a similar barge with a crane or excavator currently maintaining the Port Canaveral channel as we speak.... so don't say it can't be done.
I agree. The contingency plan should be to tow it out of sea lanes and to provide a means to safely sink it. This thing is probably costing them more money to salvage than it would cost to pull to deep water and sink. Or, better yet, modify the software to do a crash landing instead of a soft landing in such instances.
