Quote from: catdlr on 12/06/2018 05:13 amHere's my question...If the stage knows it's aborting a pad landing to land on the ocean, why then lower the legs at all? Would it then make lifting onto a barge eaiser with the legs connected to the stage? It might allow the legs to take some of the impact instead of the engines taking it all.
Here's my question...If the stage knows it's aborting a pad landing to land on the ocean, why then lower the legs at all? Would it then make lifting onto a barge eaiser with the legs connected to the stage?
Its always possible I'm simply overrating my interpretation of the Mark 1 eyeball, so you could be right. It could also be that the vehicle's quick rotation is obliterating the visibility of the cold gas plumes, but it certainly doesn't look very much like previous large "firings" of their nitrogen RCS thrusters.
Frankly, I'm surprised the AFTS didn't terminate and it still executed a soft landing off shore.
Quote from: ugordan on 12/05/2018 05:48 pmFrankly, I'm surprised the AFTS didn't terminate and it still executed a soft landing off shore.AFTS is saved before the entry burn begins. AFTS is for ascent only. Why do you think the initial aiming point for landing is out to sea?Exactly because AFTS is not active during entry and landing.
Quote from: woods170 on 12/06/2018 08:21 amQuote from: ugordan on 12/05/2018 05:48 pmFrankly, I'm surprised the AFTS didn't terminate and it still executed a soft landing off shore.AFTS is saved before the entry burn begins. AFTS is for ascent only. Why do you think the initial aiming point for landing is out to sea?Exactly because AFTS is not active during entry and landing.AFTS is also pointless on landing, it just makes sure you scatter debris over the entire launch site. It works when your velocity vector is pointing away from the launchpad.
Quote from: ugordan on 12/05/2018 05:48 pmFrankly, I'm surprised the AFTS didn't terminate and it still executed a soft landing off shore.AFTS is saved before the entry burn begins.
Quote from: woods170 on 12/06/2018 08:21 amQuote from: ugordan on 12/05/2018 05:48 pmFrankly, I'm surprised the AFTS didn't terminate and it still executed a soft landing off shore.AFTS is saved before the entry burn begins.It is safed *after* the entry burn.
Quote from: sghill on 12/05/2018 07:12 pmIf this were the 1950-60s, we'd be talking about the unbelievable skills of the pilot who wrestled the craft all the way to the ground and regained control at literally the last moment to soft land his aircraft intact....Good job Major Tom!Dare I say, the avionics aboard B1050.1 has "The Right Stuff"?!Maybe this "black box" could be Time magazine's Computer of the Year? (Is Time still relevant?)
If this were the 1950-60s, we'd be talking about the unbelievable skills of the pilot who wrestled the craft all the way to the ground and regained control at literally the last moment to soft land his aircraft intact....Good job Major Tom!
Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 12/06/2018 04:34 amQuote from: sghill on 12/05/2018 07:12 pmIf this were the 1950-60s, we'd be talking about the unbelievable skills of the pilot who wrestled the craft all the way to the ground and regained control at literally the last moment to soft land his aircraft intact....Good job Major Tom!Dare I say, the avionics aboard B1050.1 has "The Right Stuff"?!Maybe this "black box" could be Time magazine's Computer of the Year? (Is Time still relevant?)It’s the people that designed and implemented the control strategy you can recognize. Three cheers for the dedicated team of software and hardware designers that created this amazing vehicle and system.
Dare I say, the avionics aboard B1050.1 has "The Right Stuff"?!Maybe this "black box" could be Time magazine's Computer of the Year? (Is Time still relevant?)
Quote from: RotoSequence on 12/06/2018 03:48 amQuote from: Jim on 12/05/2018 06:47 pmIt was the leg deployment that did most of the work. And the same change in rotational inertial would have made it harder for the control system.This assertion is contradicted by the onboard footage. The roll is mostly nulled by the time the legs begin to deploy.I don't really agree with that, the instant the legs pop out the roll basically stops.
Quote from: Jim on 12/05/2018 06:47 pmIt was the leg deployment that did most of the work. And the same change in rotational inertial would have made it harder for the control system.This assertion is contradicted by the onboard footage. The roll is mostly nulled by the time the legs begin to deploy.
It was the leg deployment that did most of the work. And the same change in rotational inertial would have made it harder for the control system.
Quote from: dlapine on 12/05/2018 05:51 pmLatest Elon tweet update-"Pump is single string. Some landing systems are not redundant, as landing is considered ground safety critical, but not mission critical. Given this event, we will likely add a backup pump & lines."Block 5.1
Latest Elon tweet update-"Pump is single string. Some landing systems are not redundant, as landing is considered ground safety critical, but not mission critical. Given this event, we will likely add a backup pump & lines."
