Author Topic: SpinLaunch: General Company and Development Updates and Discussions  (Read 150509 times)

Offline tankat0208

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SpinLaunch very quiet for nearly a year, anybody have any insight?



They uploaded the video of their satellite department 10 days ago. Looks like they're focusing on 'spinlaunch-compliant' low-cost satellite component in addition to the launcher.

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An impressive barrage of startup babble, starting right off bragging about their “tech sack,” (at 00:12) a new one on me.

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There was a CBS Saturday Morning video on Spinlaunch with a tour by Spinlaunch's CEO on Sep 2nd.

Key take away. Spinlaunch has spend about $150M so far and needs another $250M to get to operational status. Think mostly for a much bigger centrifuge system.

(you tube ID: csFyhYSLwic)


Note - Around 5m14s they show the spinlaunch test projectiles autographed by presumably the staff at Spinlaunch. It was stated that the operational spinlaunch projectiles will be 3 times as large as the test articles.
« Last Edit: 09/03/2023 02:58 pm by Zed_Noir »

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https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1699795732474306984

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Spin Launch gains investment from Sumitomo Corporation.

Photo of their Spaceport America facility via @thejackbeyer.

>SpinLaunch and Sumitomo Form Strategic Partnership to Expand Global Commercialization of Sustainable, Low-Cost Space Solutions. Sumitomo has also made an investment in SpinLaunch.

Founded in 2014, SpinLaunch has revolutionized access to space by building a ground-based, electric-powered mass accelerator launch system that delivers a low-cost, high-cadence, sustainable way to place small satellites into LEO. By leveraging SpinLaunch’s kinetic launch technology, up to 70 percent of the fuel and structures that make up a typical rocket are eliminated, dramatically reducing the carbon footprint of deploying small satellite constellations. SpinLaunch has also developed satellite solutions that complement its low-cost and high-cadence approach to space, meeting upcoming LEO constellation needs.

“SpinLaunch is disrupting the launch service industry that has traditionally been the bottleneck of space utilization globally,” said Takao Kusaka, Executive Officer, General Manager, Lease, Ship & Aerospace Business Division, Sumitomo.  “We are currently focusing on the development of our space business, for both national security and private sector space use, and SpinLaunch’s capabilities to further advance low-cost space launch  solutions is a major asset for us, our customers, and stakeholders.”

Through the partnership agreement, Sumitomo obtains the right to represent SpinLaunch’s mass accelerator launch services and related hardware products in Japan. Sumitomo plans to leverage SpinLaunch's capabilities to accelerate the accessibility of space, both for national security and private sector use in Japan.

“This strategic partnership marks a milestone in SpinLaunch’s journey towards becoming the leading provider of low-cost space solutions globally,”  said Wen Hsieh, Board representative of Kleiner Perkins.  “The Sumitomo Corporation is one of the most prestigious institutions in Japan, and we are excited to have them join as both a partner and investor. This collaboration will accelerate our joint commitment to disrupting the space economy with more affordable, sustainable access to  space.”

“SpinLaunch is poised for growth as we continue to produce high-performance end-to-end space solutions at the lowest cost in the marketplace,” said Jonathan Yaney, Founder and CEO, SpinLaunch.  “This collaboration signifies our shared commitment to delivering innovative and sustainable space solutions for our customers. We are  excited about the potential of this strategic partnership and our ability to collectively expand our technology capabilities and bring  massive disruption to the space economy.”<

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Any idea about how do they manage to seal back the vacuum after each launch? They say the system is not depressurized after each lunch, and that the gate is proprietary:

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How tight must the vacuum be? A “rough” vacuum suffices, he says. SpinLaunch maintains the vacuum with a system of airlocks operated by those millisecond-fast gates.

Most parts, including the steel for the vacuum chamber and carbon fiber, are off-the-shelf, but those gates are proprietary. All Wrenn will say is that they’re not made of steel.

OK, but at least anyone has a vague idea about how the system works? How can they seal the gate in a few msec, before the pressure wave enter the vacuum chamber?
« Last Edit: 09/08/2023 06:28 pm by gdelottle »

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Any idea about how do they manage to seal back the vacuum after each launch? They say the system is not depressurized after each lunch, and that the gate is proprietary:

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How tight must the vacuum be? A “rough” vacuum suffices, he says. SpinLaunch maintains the vacuum with a system of airlocks operated by those millisecond-fast gates.

Most parts, including the steel for the vacuum chamber and carbon fiber, are off-the-shelf, but those gates are proprietary. All Wrenn will say is that they’re not made of steel.

OK, but at least anyone has a vague idea about how the system works? How can they seal the gate in a few msec, before the pressure wave enter the vacuum chamber?
Gate is in the outer wall of the 'cylinder' section between it and the exit tunnel. Gate is opened around time of spinup completion before projectile release. Projectile is released. Gate starts closing (timing may vary depending on gate speed, closing may start before projectile release if gate takes time to get up to speed and projectile will pass by before the gate can close enough to get in the way). The projectile continues down the evacuated tunnel section. The projectile pierces the frangible membrane seal at the end of the tunnel. At this point, atmosphere can start to enter through the pierced membrane, at a maximum of Mach 1. If timing is correct, the gate can close before atmospheric air has sufficient time to travel down the tunnel and reach the gate - for the test launcher, the tunnel is around 30m long, so there is an ~80ms window between the membrane being pierced and the gate needing to have shut. The tunnel requires re-evacuation between launches, but the chamber containing the rotor does not.

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The tunnel requires re-evacuation between launches, but the chamber containing the rotor does not.

Thanks for the explanation. I would really like to see that proprietary gate system. Any idea how they plan to reload? Maybe through the tube (that at that point is at ambient pressure)?
« Last Edit: 09/09/2023 08:56 am by gdelottle »

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They use an air lock to exit the vehicle. The first photo shows inside door closing and the outside door opening as the vehicle passes through.

Very interesting. Are those actual images or rendering in your opinion? I searched for the source with TinEye but couldn't find it. Can you tell us where you got them?

To me, it looks like the membranes are 3 or even 4 layers partialize pressure difference. I read they are in Mylar, probably pretty thick because they do not look like mylar.
« Last Edit: 09/09/2023 12:51 pm by gdelottle »

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If I recall correctly, the membrane system is only intended as a development solution with doors being used for production operations. The video on Real Engineering goes into detail about it and the level of vacuum required (not anywhere near as tight as a vacuum chamber typically is):


Vacuum pumps and levels are discussed around 8-9 minutes in.

Door discussion and demonstration is around 16 minutes in.
« Last Edit: 09/10/2023 06:32 pm by ParabolicSnark »

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The video on Real Engineering goes into detail about it and the level of vacuum required (not anywhere near as tight as a vacuum chamber typically is):
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I found this the most interesting video on Spinlaunch I watched. It explains a few things that are quite counterintuitive IMO and explain the project is not 100% crazy. They also give some actual data that explain the thin balance among various basic physics parameters they have to follow to do what they do.

Although I remain a skeptic, I am really curious to see where they will arrive in their endeavour. Thanks again for the link.
« Last Edit: 09/11/2023 09:29 am by gdelottle »

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Matthew Mejía (SpinLaunch's Chief Strategy Officer) gave a quick interview at the "Future of Mobility" summit on April 17th:

 • Have launched hundreds of times at their facility in Long Beach, California
 • Launched 10 times at Spaceport America
 • Aiming to start operating in 2029 and fly 10 times a day
 • 200 kg payload, all weather capability
 • $250,000 launch price

[Time: 3:03:18 - 3:11:50]

« Last Edit: 04/23/2024 11:09 pm by StraumliBlight »

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