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#1520 by meberbs on 19 Sep, 2019 05:48
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OK, I understand all your arguments, and it's hard for me to answer. I prepared a simulation, this is not a complete picture, but you can start. Look here please. This is the best model of emdrive, as there is a resonator (horizontal cavity), and a photon source, a vertical waveguide, is visible. When I change the length of the resonator, we see how everything changes. In figure e1 we see the E field. In Figure E1 we see the radiation pressure on the surface in the system.
This isn't what anyone would call aa "best" model of an emDrive, since there are models that have been made of shapes that actually resemble a conical frustum, like the emDrive.
All the model you provided shows is that more power ends up in the resonator when its length is adjusted to match the resonance frequency with the input frequency. This is neither new nor interesting information. -
#1521 by Alex_O on 19 Sep, 2019 07:08
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OK, I understand all your arguments, and it's hard for me to answer. I prepared a simulation, this is not a complete picture, but you can start. Look here please. This is the best model of emdrive, as there is a resonator (horizontal cavity), and a photon source, a vertical waveguide, is visible. When I change the length of the resonator, we see how everything changes. In figure e1 we see the E field. In Figure E1 we see the radiation pressure on the surface in the system.
This isn't what anyone would call aa "best" model of an emDrive, since there are models that have been made of shapes that actually resemble a conical frustum, like the emDrive.
All the model you provided shows is that more power ends up in the resonator when its length is adjusted to match the resonance frequency with the input frequency. This is neither new nor interesting information.
SavePoint1
I saw simulations of conical resonators, and I want to agree on this option, where it seems to me that you can eliminate the problems of the side walls. When I change the length of the resonator, then the pressure on the end walls changes (but on the side walls too, but it doesn’t matter).
The next step is to make an asymmetric change in the cavity length relative to the waveguide. Then, go to the nanosecond scale. Then .. we should discuss that (I’ll try to formulate it, I’m not sure, correct me please)
1. emdrive - 4-dimensional system
2. emdrive - open system
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#1522 by meberbs on 19 Sep, 2019 13:18
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I saw simulations of conical resonators, and I want to agree on this option, where it seems to me that you can eliminate the problems of the side walls. When I change the length of the resonator, then the pressure on the end walls changes (but on the side walls too, but it doesn’t matter).
This would be completely pointless. No matter what shape you make, things will still be balanced.
The next step is to make an asymmetric change in the cavity length relative to the waveguide. Then, go to the nanosecond scale. Then .. we should discuss that (I’ll try to formulate it, I’m not sure, correct me please)1. emdrive - 4-dimensional system
What do you mean by this? 3 spatial dimensions plus time? That applies to literally everything.2. emdrive - open system
False. The emDrive does not interact with anything external as described, and noting leaves the system.3. emdrive - contains substance (photons), and this matter is not part of emdrive.
Untrue. While you can technically define a system that doesn't include them, the photons are generated from the antenna attached to the cavity, and in the end are absorbed by the walls of the cavity, and they interact with nothing except the cavity at any point. Not including them would be like taking a box full of beads, and trying to work out the physics of its motion while not including the beads as part of the system. You can do so, but it just makes for more work and more confusion, without changing the fact that considered together they make a closed system. -
#1523 by Bryan_Kelly on 19 Sep, 2019 16:56
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Great idea - gravity shakes the boat. Usually, gravity is discussed using a curved trampoline as an example. the rubber fabric bends under the weight of the load. But in zero gravity, this does not work.
But is gravity is ever really "zero", except perhaps in an argument about Lagrange points or metaphysics?
Personally, I prefer the graviton-gravitational wave and their related concepts over the good old trampoline. I can visualize gravity density around an object much easier than a curved fabric under one. -
#1524 by Alex_O on 19 Sep, 2019 18:16
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I saw simulations of conical resonators, and I want to agree on this option, where it seems to me that you can eliminate the problems of the side walls. When I change the length of the resonator, then the pressure on the end walls changes (but on the side walls too, but it doesn’t matter).
This would be completely pointless. No matter what shape you make, things will still be balanced.
The next step is to make an asymmetric change in the cavity length relative to the waveguide. Then, go to the nanosecond scale. Then .. we should discuss that (I’ll try to formulate it, I’m not sure, correct me please)1. emdrive - 4-dimensional system
What do you mean by this? 3 spatial dimensions plus time? That applies to literally everything.
The calculation of the total impulse in Emdrive should be studied taking into account the movement of energy-mass in 4-dimensional space. Taking into account physical phenomena in the past and future. At small intervals, any fluctuations are not a violation of conservation laws.
Emdrive is a vessel with holes, it is built of atoms, and between the atoms there is a void, it is an atomic sieve. Solar neutrinos, hypothetical gravitons, virtual vacuum plasma and an infinite number of physical agents freely penetrate through thin walls of copper. If Emdrive were a closed system, then the passage of time would stop in it, and any thermal photons could not go beyond the horizon of events. What is not observed.2. emdrive - open system
False. The emDrive does not interact with anything external as described, and noting leaves the system.3. emdrive - contains substance (photons), and this matter is not part of emdrive.
Untrue. While you can technically define a system that doesn't include them, the photons are generated from the antenna attached to the cavity, and in the end are absorbed by the walls of the cavity, and they interact with nothing except the cavity at any point. Not including them would be like taking a box full of beads, and trying to work out the physics of its motion while not including the beads as part of the system. You can do so, but it just makes for more work and more confusion, without changing the fact that considered together they make a closed system.
You said the antenna! The antenna can be turned off, and photons can then exist forever. If the photon flew out of the antenna, it no longer refers to the antenna. Not tied with a rope! . A 4-dimensional model helps to understand the nature of this paradox.
OK, I will continue to work on the simulation. A nanosecond interval awaits me.
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#1525 by Alex_O on 19 Sep, 2019 18:30
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Hi Alex_O
Take a look at equation 4.28 from this paper, page 31.
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0501230v1
May be useful...or not.
Hi Ricvil. I saw a lot of interesting links in your posts. And I want to say thank you for what you do. I can’t bang your formula, I was carried away by the simulation and I need to coordinate with the members. Can you tell this formula in simple words? What is the speech about? -
#1526 by meberbs on 19 Sep, 2019 18:34
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It doesn't seem like you actually answered the question. "4-dimensional space" is sci-fi and not the universe we live in. 4 dimensional space-time is a valid way to describe the universe if that is what you meant to say, but again that is nothing special here.I saw simulations of conical resonators, and I want to agree on this option, where it seems to me that you can eliminate the problems of the side walls. When I change the length of the resonator, then the pressure on the end walls changes (but on the side walls too, but it doesn’t matter).
This would be completely pointless. No matter what shape you make, things will still be balanced.
The next step is to make an asymmetric change in the cavity length relative to the waveguide. Then, go to the nanosecond scale. Then .. we should discuss that (I’ll try to formulate it, I’m not sure, correct me please)1. emdrive - 4-dimensional system
What do you mean by this? 3 spatial dimensions plus time? That applies to literally everything.
The calculation of the total impulse in Emdrive should be studied taking into account the movement of energy-mass in 4-dimensional space. Taking into account physical phenomena in the past and future. At small intervals, any fluctuations are not a violation of conservation laws.
Your last statement about "small fluctuations not being a violation of conservation laws is untrue. It seems like a statement that would be made based on an oversimplified interpretation of quantum mechanics.
Things like neutrinos which pass through something but don't interact with it do not make that thing an open system.
Emdrive is a vessel with holes, it is built of atoms, and between the atoms there is a void, it is an atomic sieve. Solar neutrinos, hypothetical gravitons, virtual vacuum plasma and an infinite number of physical agents freely penetrate through thin walls of copper. If Emdrive were a closed system, then the passage of time would stop in it, and any thermal photons could not go beyond the horizon of events. What is not observed.2. emdrive - open system
False. The emDrive does not interact with anything external as described, and noting leaves the system.
Time does not stop inside a closed system, claiming that it would means that you have no idea what the words you are using mean.
It is a closed cavity and the photons have no way out. Eventually they will be absorbed by the walls. Also an antenna is an antenna, you can stop applying power to it, but it will still continue to interact with passing EM waves, absorbing some and transferring the energy to be absorbed, reflected, or whatever by the components attached to the antenna.3. emdrive - contains substance (photons), and this matter is not part of emdrive.
Untrue. While you can technically define a system that doesn't include them, the photons are generated from the antenna attached to the cavity, and in the end are absorbed by the walls of the cavity, and they interact with nothing except the cavity at any point. Not including them would be like taking a box full of beads, and trying to work out the physics of its motion while not including the beads as part of the system. You can do so, but it just makes for more work and more confusion, without changing the fact that considered together they make a closed system.
You said the antenna! The antenna can be turned off, and photons can then exist forever. If the photon flew out of the antenna, it no longer refers to the antenna. Not tied with a rope! . A 4-dimensional model helps to understand the nature of this paradox.
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#1527 by Alex_O on 19 Sep, 2019 18:38
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Hi, I entered the world of Emdrive from the side of grav. waves. I was told that Emdrive caught relict, high-frequency gravitational waves and I studied a lot on this topic. I even invented my own gravwave generator, having previously studied a lot of ideas already published. You can tell me about interesting gravity, I'm sure.Great idea - gravity shakes the boat. Usually, gravity is discussed using a curved trampoline as an example. the rubber fabric bends under the weight of the load. But in zero gravity, this does not work.
But is gravity is ever really "zero", except perhaps in an argument about Lagrange points or metaphysics?
Personally, I prefer the graviton-gravitational wave and their related concepts over the good old trampoline. I can visualize gravity density around an object much easier than a curved fabric under one. -
#1528 by meberbs on 19 Sep, 2019 18:47
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You had to ask about how to calculate radiation pressure and Doppler shift, but then claim that you have studied gravitational waves?
Hi, I entered the world of Emdrive from the side of gravwaves. I was told that Emdrive caught relict, high-frequency gravitational waves and I studied a lot on this topic. I even invented my own gravwave generator, having previously studied a lot of ideas already published. You can tell me about interesting gravity, I'm sure.Great idea - gravity shakes the boat. Usually, gravity is discussed using a curved trampoline as an example. the rubber fabric bends under the weight of the load. But in zero gravity, this does not work.
But is gravity is ever really "zero", except perhaps in an argument about Lagrange points or metaphysics?
Personally, I prefer the graviton-gravitational wave and their related concepts over the good old trampoline. I can visualize gravity density around an object much easier than a curved fabric under one.
Calculations in GR are indescribably more complicated than the ones you previously asked about. There is an order to things in physics, you have to understand the basics before you can properly understand advanced topics, studying GR when you don't understand radiation pressure and Doppler shift will not actually help you.
As has been stated by Elon Musk:QuoteOne bit of advice: it is important to view knowledge as sort of a semantic tree — make sure you understand the fundamental principles, ie the trunk and big branches, before you get into the leaves/details or there is nothing for them to hang on to.
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#1529 by Alex_O on 19 Sep, 2019 19:57
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No, I'm trying to find a solution for emdrive in the framework of well-known physics. About 4 dimensions - this is another new attempt. I asked a question, but I don’t have a good answer yet, I know that. I tried to say briefly. In details:
It doesn't seem like you actually answered the question. "4-dimensional space" is sci-fi and not the universe we live in. 4 dimensional space-time is a valid way to describe the universe if that is what you meant to say, but again that is nothing special here.I saw simulations of conical resonators, and I want to agree on this option, where it seems to me that you can eliminate the problems of the side walls. When I change the length of the resonator, then the pressure on the end walls changes (but on the side walls too, but it doesn’t matter).
This would be completely pointless. No matter what shape you make, things will still be balanced.
The next step is to make an asymmetric change in the cavity length relative to the waveguide. Then, go to the nanosecond scale. Then .. we should discuss that (I’ll try to formulate it, I’m not sure, correct me please)1. emdrive - 4-dimensional system
What do you mean by this? 3 spatial dimensions plus time? That applies to literally everything.
The calculation of the total impulse in Emdrive should be studied taking into account the movement of energy-mass in 4-dimensional space. Taking into account physical phenomena in the past and future. At small intervals, any fluctuations are not a violation of conservation laws.
Your last statement about "small fluctuations not being a violation of conservation laws is untrue. It seems like a statement that would be made based on an oversimplified interpretation of quantum mechanics.
Emdrive is connected to the source of the AC, then to the local hydroelectric station, which uses the potential energy of water as a result of the circulation of water on the planet due to the energy of the Sun and so on. The calculation of the total momentum in Emdrive should be studied taking into account the movement of energy-mass in the solar system over an interval of billions of years. Where does the debit-credit balance converge after calculating the movement of energy-mass both in the past and in the future. Over a shorter time interval, this balance can take on different values other than zero. And these local fluctuations of the total momentum (energy) in the local system will not be a violation of the law of conservation of momentum and energy in the 4-dimensional space-time continuum
Even if Emdrive is battery powered, it is still 4-dimensional, since the batteries store energy, which is .. In short, once, nature spent a good dozen Joules on the synthesis of the solar system from a primitive protostellar gas nebula due to the work of gravitational forces. Any battery on planet Earth holds the memory of that great work.
This is lyrics and you will say - complete nonsense, in response I will quote the famous essay about a butterfly that flaps its wings from a great science fiction novel (a very wide range of physical phenomena is shown on the example of the movement of a butterfly wing).
Things like neutrinos which pass through something but don't interact with it do not make that thing an open system.
Emdrive is a vessel with holes, it is built of atoms, and between the atoms there is a void, it is an atomic sieve. Solar neutrinos, hypothetical gravitons, virtual vacuum plasma and an infinite number of physical agents freely penetrate through thin walls of copper. If Emdrive were a closed system, then the passage of time would stop in it, and any thermal photons could not go beyond the horizon of events. What is not observed.2. emdrive - open system
False. The emDrive does not interact with anything external as described, and noting leaves the system.
Time does not stop inside a closed system, claiming that it would means that you have no idea what the words you are using mean.
No, this is a problem with a thin skin layer. If Emdrive actually creates traction, then this is due to physics that flows in a thin skin layer, micron thick. This is not ideal from an engineering point of view. And if a neutrino flies freely through the walls of an emdrive, this does NOT mean that there is no physical interaction (neutrinos with copper atoms), on the contrary, it confirms the thesis of an open system. And what do you say, for example, about the study of Kozyrev? He caught these waves in a telescope with a closed lid.
I did the simulations, I will show them later. Everything is logical there, but a concept is required that photons are like a function, which is physically determined not in the emdrive vessel, but independently of it. I (and you, too) also know the hypothesis of Finnish scientists regarding the nature of photons. In addition, I did a physical experiment and launched an instance of a photon model in a trial model of the universe, in order to understand physics, what could happen when a photon is absorbed in the emdrive wall. In this experiment, I saw a reaction (a physical process) that occurs in nature after the absorption of a photon. This inspires me to think more broadly to explain how emdrive can work.
It is a closed cavity and the photons have no way out. Eventually they will be absorbed by the walls. Also an antenna is an antenna, you can stop applying power to it, but it will still continue to interact with passing EM waves, absorbing some and transferring the energy to be absorbed, reflected, or whatever by the components attached to the antenna.3. emdrive - contains substance (photons), and this matter is not part of emdrive.
Untrue. While you can technically define a system that doesn't include them, the photons are generated from the antenna attached to the cavity, and in the end are absorbed by the walls of the cavity, and they interact with nothing except the cavity at any point. Not including them would be like taking a box full of beads, and trying to work out the physics of its motion while not including the beads as part of the system. You can do so, but it just makes for more work and more confusion, without changing the fact that considered together they make a closed system.
You said the antenna! The antenna can be turned off, and photons can then exist forever. If the photon flew out of the antenna, it no longer refers to the antenna. Not tied with a rope! . A 4-dimensional model helps to understand the nature of this paradox.
There is no paradox here, just confusion of why you keep repeating nonsense. -
#1530 by meberbs on 19 Sep, 2019 20:45
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No, I'm trying to find a solution for emdrive in the framework of well-known physics. About 4 dimensions - this is another new attempt. I asked a question, but I don’t have a good answer yet, I know that. I tried to say briefly. In details:
Not how conservation laws work. Conservation means that the value does not change from one instant in time to the next. An instant in time is well defined even in relativity, because conservation laws need to be applied in a fixed inertial reference frame.
Emdrive is connected to the source of the AC, then to the local hydroelectric station, which uses the potential energy of water as a result of the circulation of water on the planet due to the energy of the Sun and so on. The calculation of the total momentum in Emdrive should be studied taking into account the movement of energy-mass in the solar system over an interval of billions of years. Where does the debit-credit balance converge after calculating the movement of energy-mass both in the past and in the future. Over a shorter time interval, this balance can take on different values other than zero. And these local fluctuations of the total momentum (energy) in the local system will not be a violation of the law of conservation of momentum and energy in the 4-dimensional space-time continuum
Go take an introductory physics course, or look up any of dozens of tutroials available online.This is lyrics and you will say - complete nonsense, in response I will quote the famous essay about a butterfly that flaps its wings from a great science fiction novel (a very wide range of physical phenomena is shown on the example of the movement of a butterfly wing).
So in other words, you don't care that you are wrong, and will ignore any explanation or definition of the terms that you are using?No, this is a problem with a thin skin layer. If Emdrive actually creates traction, then this is due to physics that flows in a thin skin layer, micron thick. This is not ideal from an engineering point of view. And if a neutrino flies freely through the walls of an emdrive, this does NOT mean that there is no physical interaction (neutrinos with copper atoms), on the contrary, it confirms the thesis of an open system.
The definition of a closed system is one that doesn't interact with anything else. Claiming that something doesn't interact with it, therefore it is an open system is equivalent to claiming that 1+1=3, it is wrong by definition.And what do you say, for example, about the study of Kozyrev? He caught these waves in a telescope with a closed lid.
No idea what you are talking about, I found an astronomer by that name on wikipedia, and it sounds like he did some decent work, but after being isolated (due to jail) from the science community for a decade, he refused to accept advancements that were made while he was in jail, and ended up doing some pseudoscience work on ESP.I did the simulations, I will show them later. Everything is logical there, but a concept is required that photons are like a function, which is physically determined not in the emdrive vessel, but independently of it. I (and you, too) also know the hypothesis of Finnish scientists regarding the nature of photons.
No clue what you are talking about. I have not heard of any hypothesis about photons specifically coming from Finland.In addition, I did a physical experiment and launched an instance of a photon model in a trial model of the universe, in order to understand physics, what could happen when a photon is absorbed in the emdrive wall. In this experiment, I saw a reaction (a physical process) that occurs in nature after the absorption of a photon. This inspires me to think more broadly to explain how emdrive can work.
A photon has momentum, when it is absorbed, that momentum is transferred to the thing that absorbs it. This is the clear result from standard physics that momentum is conserved. How can this possibly inspire you to think that the emDrive may actually work (which would break conservation of momentum.) -
#1531 by Alex_O on 20 Sep, 2019 05:54
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OK, considering all our conversations after SavePoint1, please return to the beginning. Rollback to SavePoint1, please. I tried to make an asymmetric emdrive model, and this is what I accidentally got from the first attempt. I think I proved that the radiation pressure on the end walls can be different if the "worm" will strain its muscles and move the side walls.
SavePoint1OK, I understand all your arguments, and it's hard for me to answer. I prepared a simulation, this is not a complete picture, but you can start. Look here please. This is the best model of emdrive, as there is a resonator (horizontal cavity), and a photon source, a vertical waveguide, is visible. When I change the length of the resonator, we see how everything changes. In figure e1 we see the E field. In Figure E1 we see the radiation pressure on the surface in the system.
This isn't what anyone would call aa "best" model of an emDrive, since there are models that have been made of shapes that actually resemble a conical frustum, like the emDrive.
All the model you provided shows is that more power ends up in the resonator when its length is adjusted to match the resonance frequency with the input frequency. This is neither new nor interesting information.
I saw simulations of conical resonators, and I want to agree on this option, where it seems to me that you can eliminate the problems of the side walls. When I change the length of the resonator, then the pressure on the end walls changes (but on the side walls too, but it doesn’t matter).
The next step is to make an asymmetric change in the cavity length relative to the waveguide. Then, go to the nanosecond scale. Then .. we should discuss that (I’ll try to formulate it, I’m not sure, correct me please)
1. emdrive - 4-dimensional system
2. emdrive - open system
3. emdrive - contains substance (photons), and this matter is not part of emdrive.
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#1532 by meberbs on 20 Sep, 2019 06:10
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OK, considering all our conversations after SavePoint1, please return to the beginning. Rollback to SavePoint1, please. I tried to make an asymmetric emdrive model, and this is what I accidentally got from the first attempt. I think I proved that the radiation pressure on the end walls can be different if the "worm" will strain its muscles and move the side walls.
No, you are just ignoring the other part of the waveguide where the signal is coming from that has the balancing force. You can clearly see in your simulation that the fields in the other part of the T change in such a way that the total radiation pressure would still be balanced. You keep using the word "prove" for things that you have not shown, and generally are wrong about. -
#1533 by Alex_O on 20 Sep, 2019 06:42
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OK, considering all our conversations after SavePoint1, please return to the beginning. Rollback to SavePoint1, please. I tried to make an asymmetric emdrive model, and this is what I accidentally got from the first attempt. I think I proved that the radiation pressure on the end walls can be different if the "worm" will strain its muscles and move the side walls.
No, you are just ignoring the other part of the waveguide where the signal is coming from that has the balancing force. You can clearly see in your simulation that the fields in the other part of the T change in such a way that the total radiation pressure would still be balanced. You keep using the word "prove" for things that you have not shown, and generally are wrong about.
I see this, but you yourself said that all that is outside the resonator (and there is somewhere nearby a local nuclear power plant) - that all this is not important. The vertical waveguide here has an auxiliary purpose, as an algorithm for the excitation of EM waves in the cavity. It can be removed and replaced, for example, with a loop antenna. And on the nanosecond interval, we must continue to study the issue.
But I do not mind, your argument can show that in the real version of the emdrive it creates an artifact. I do not know how to.
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#1534 by meberbs on 20 Sep, 2019 13:57
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I see this, but you yourself said that all that is outside the resonator
No, I never said that, and it is quite clear from you simulation that the banch of waeguide where the antenna is is part of the resonator.(and there is somewhere nearby a local nuclear power plant) - that all this is not important.
hypothetically, the power comes from batteries attached to the device to keep it a closed system.The vertical waveguide here has an auxiliary purpose, as an algorithm for the excitation of EM waves in the cavity. It can be removed and replaced, for example, with a loop antenna.
This would completely change your results, so no.And on the nanosecond interval, we must continue to study the issue.
There is no need to continue to study the issue, because it has been shown in general that electrodynamics conserves momentum. No amount of complications you add or changes you make to the shape of a resonator will change this fact. Therefore you are just wasting time on a complete wild goose chase.
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#1535 by Bryan_Kelly on 20 Sep, 2019 16:00
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I tried to make an asymmetric emdrive model, and this is what I accidentally got from the first attempt. I think I proved that the radiation pressure on the end walls can be different if the "worm" will strain its muscles and move the side walls.
The symmetry of the object will effect the path photons take through gravitational field within it, and their interactions.
In an expanding universe, maybe conservation laws from the 1500s should not be guiding new developments, especially those involving photons and nanoseconds.
Keep tinkering and imagining, that's how innovation happens. Even a wild goose now knows that you actually can fly without feathers.
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#1536 by meberbs on 20 Sep, 2019 16:22
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In an expanding universe, maybe conservation laws from the 1500s should not be guiding new developments, especially those involving photons and nanoseconds.
Noether's theorem was published in 1918. Conservation laws are not just from the 1500s, but have improved from useful assumptions to provable facts that they must exist.Keep tinkering and imagining, that's how innovation happens. Even a wild goose now knows that you actually can fly without feathers.
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#1537 by Alex_O on 20 Sep, 2019 16:27
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Bravo! let me thank you with a beautiful song, at 1:28 we see an example of the operation of an emdrive in nanosecond scaleI tried to make an asymmetric emdrive model, and this is what I accidentally got from the first attempt. I think I proved that the radiation pressure on the end walls can be different if the "worm" will strain its muscles and move the side walls.
The symmetry of the object will effect the path photons take through gravitational field within it, and their interactions.
In an expanding universe, maybe conservation laws from the 1500s should not be guiding new developments, especially those involving photons and nanoseconds.
Keep tinkering and imagining, that's how innovation happens. Even a wild goose now knows that you actually can fly without feathers. While you are listening, I will prepare new simulations.
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#1538 by gaballard on 20 Sep, 2019 19:49
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No one has been able to prove the device still works when on a self-contained power supply. Everyone is off making up new physics when everyone should be trying to rule out every other possible thing that could be affecting the results. The fact that no one has bothered to run them with batteries and without high-voltage wiring and its associated magnetic fields running across the whole setup is worrying. I think that people are afraid to verify that, because it might mean it's all bunk.
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#1539 by RotoSequence on 20 Sep, 2019 19:51
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No one has been able to prove the device still works when on a self-contained power supply. Everyone is off making up new physics when everyone should be trying to rule out every other possible thing that could be affecting the results. The fact that no one has bothered to run them with batteries and without high-voltage wiring and its associated magnetic fields running across the whole setup is worrying. I think that people are afraid to verify that, because it might mean it's all bunk.
That's not entirely true. Monomorphic has done just that, and as you might have expected, there is no signal amidst the noise.
