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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #340 on: 08/22/2020 12:24 am »
Here is the link to the NAC presentation of this week on the lunar program which includes many slides on CLPS:

https://science.nasa.gov/files/science-pink/s3fs-public/atoms/files/08-Bailey-PAC%20ESSIO%20Charts_17Aug20.pdf
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #341 on: 09/17/2020 01:26 pm »
twitter.com/joroulette/status/1306247088066441217

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NASA's OIG says NASA ran afoul of contracting law by ignoring information related to CLPS providers' past performance and financial status, specifically calling out Firefly Aerospace, Moon Express and Orbit Beyond as having a "history of unsatisfactory performance records"

https://twitter.com/joroulette/status/1306252165388922880

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Necessary to note that this is OIG's opinion and a suggestion that NASA should change parts of its contracting strategy.

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #343 on: 11/11/2020 10:53 pm »
Lunar Telescope Planned to Eye Milky Way Galaxy Center:
http://www.leonarddavid.com/lunar-telescope-planned-to-eye-milky-way-galaxy-center/

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A telescope is on tap for the Moon’s Schroter’s Valley and aims to capture images of the Milky Way Galaxy Center from the lunar surface.

The International Lunar Observatory Association (ILOA Hawaii) has contracted Intuitive Machines of Houston Texas to fly its ILO-X payload on the IM-1 Nova-C lander mission set to launch in the fourth quarter of 2021 on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket.


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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #344 on: 12/01/2020 05:36 pm »
Quote from: Marcia Smith
Zurbuchen: Peregrine and Nova-C are CLPS missions. We're buying cmrcl services. I am not standing over their shoulders.  If one of the two works, that will be a success in my view. [He has said all along that a 50% success rate is OK for CLPS.]

https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1333840065378865157

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #345 on: 12/21/2020 08:30 pm »
Good news! CLPS is fully funded at $254M. See below:

CLPS is fully funded at $254M:

Quote from: pages 115 and 116 of the explanatory statement
Lunar Discovery.-The agreement includes up to $451,500,000 for the Lunar Discovery and Exploration, including $22,000,000 to continue the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, $70,000,000 for the new Lunar Future initiative, and up to the request level for Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS).

NASA had requested $254M for CLPS, see page 420:
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/fy2021_congressional_justification.pdf

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #347 on: 01/15/2021 01:18 pm »
See this presentation for more slides on CLPS:
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/nac-heoc-clps_update_2021.01_v4-final.pdf

Slide 6 indicates that the (TO2) ASTROBOTIC TECHNOLOGY mission is scheduled to launch in
July 2021

Slide 7 indicates that the (TO2) INTUITIVE MACHINES mission is scheduled to launch in October 2021.

See also the slides on VIPER in this presentation:
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/nac_noble_glaze_jwc.pdf
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #348 on: 01/16/2021 03:43 pm »
One of the questions that was asked yesterday at the NAC HEO meeting was about sample returns from the Moon. Sarah Noble from the Planetary Science Division mentioned that NASA is pushing for the CLPS companies to provide such a capability (as they currently do not offer it).
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #349 on: 01/16/2021 08:57 pm »
One of the questions that was asked yesterday at the NAC HEO meeting was about sample returns from the Moon. Sarah Noble from the Planetary Science Division mentioned that NASA is pushing for the CLPS companies to provide such a capability (as they currently do not offer it).

How typical. NASA now pushing a requirement that previously wasn't there. Would not surprise me one bit that this is a reaction to the recent success of Chang'e-5.

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #350 on: 01/17/2021 02:20 am »
At least one CLPS provider has talked about doing sample return in the future.  This could just be seen as pushing for it to be a bit sooner.  It's not really brand new.

(admittedly the one CLPS company I'm referring to was Moon Express.  Make of that what you will.  I've tried to defend them in the past but I'm not inclined to now).

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #351 on: 01/17/2021 04:14 pm »
One of the questions that was asked yesterday at the NAC HEO meeting was about sample returns from the Moon. Sarah Noble from the Planetary Science Division mentioned that NASA is pushing for the CLPS companies to provide such a capability (as they currently do not offer it).

How typical. NASA now pushing a requirement that previously wasn't there. Would not surprise me one bit that this is a reaction to the recent success of Chang'e-5.

Yes, the question was asked with a direct reference to China's recent mission.

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #352 on: 01/17/2021 11:10 pm »
However, I should add that CLPS is different from HLS in the sense that no funds are provided for the development of the cargo landers. NASA is only paying for the service. So changing the requirements isn't really an issue. NASA is simply saying that, as a customer, they would also be interested in a lunar sample mission (in addition to cargo delivery to the Moon).
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #353 on: 02/04/2021 08:26 pm »
Quote from: Thomas Zurbuchen
JUST IN: NASA has selected @Firefly_Space to deliver a suite of 10 #NASAScience investigations and @NASA_Technology demonstrations to the Moon in 2023. These investigations will help prepare for @NASAArtemis human missions in the future.

We’re excited another provider has won its first task order award under NASA’s Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) Program. With this initiative, we seek to develop ways for new science and technology development utilizing a service-based model.

This allows U.S. vendors to not only demonstrate their ability to safely deliver payloads to our celestial neighbor, but also expand this capability for others who want to take advantage of this cutting-edge approach to explore the Moon.

https://go.nasa.gov/2LiXA15

https://twitter.com/Dr_ThomasZ/status/1357438114776707073

https://twitter.com/Dr_ThomasZ/status/1357438547578531840
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #354 on: 02/04/2021 08:36 pm »
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NASA is working on various science instruments and technology experiments from the agency that will operate on the Moon once American companies on Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) contracts deliver them to the lunar surface. Through CLPS flights, NASA is buying a complete commercial robotic lunar delivery service and does not provide launch services, own the lander or lead landing operations.

The agency has already purchased space on five upcoming commercial Moon missions and is expected to announce yet another task order award soon. The upcoming award keeps the agency on track for its goal of two CLPS deliveries per year as part of the Artemis program and will round out two deliveries per year 2021 through 2023.

“We’re excited with the incredible progress we’ve already made with our CLPS initiative since its inception just two years ago, and its clear many other customers are eager to take advantage of these new lunar delivery services,” shared Chris Culbert, manager of the CLPS project. “Commercial companies are responsible for vetting any additional payloads and customers for their lander missions. NASA is just a customer like the others, which allows us to focus on the science ahead for the Artemis program.”

Flights this year

Two commercial landers providing the first CLPS services for NASA will soon be kicking up dust on the Moon, one built by Astrobotic and the other Intuitive Machines. They are expected to deliver a combined total of 17 NASA payloads before the end of the year. Payload is a generic term to describe the many different instruments and experiments either attached directly to the lander itself or stowed safely in its trunk until a safe landing. The number of NASA payloads on a CLPS flight will vary depending on the agency’s science and technology objectives among other factors.

Astrobotic and its Peregrine lander are set to ferry 11 NASA instruments and technology demonstrations to the surface to investigate the composition of lunar soil and a host of other environmental factors. Launching on United Launch Alliance’s Vulcan Centaur rocket, Peregrine is targeting later this year to deliver the suite of payloads to Lacus Mortis, a crater on the near side of the Moon.

NASA will deliver its suite of payloads to Astrobotic in the spring. Next, the payloads will be integrated with the lander structure. Once assembly is complete, the lander will undergo a battery of environmental tests before being shipped to Florida for integration with the launch vehicle.

Intuitive Machines will fly its Nova-C lander to Oceanus Procellarum, the largest dark spot on the Moon. The company, which will launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, is targeting the fourth quarter of 2021 for its lunar delivery. Six NASA instruments will be delivered to the company this spring to undergo final testing before integration with the lander, including a new navigation and guidance payload to assist with landing.

NASA also added an additional instrument to fly on Nova-C last year, a new fuel gauging technology called Radio Frequency Mass Gauge. Accurately gauging liquid propellant quantity in a low- or zero-gravity environment is critical for spacecraft design and performance, but difficult because the liquid does not settle as it would on Earth. Results will help develop flight systems that could be used on future Artemis missions with crew.

Looking Ahead to 2022, Beyond

Masten Space Systems is working to deliver eight instruments to the lunar surface in 2022 using its XL-1 lander, launched by a SpaceX rocket. NASA and Masten recently selected a landing site on the rim of Haworth Crater, where scientists believe permanently shadowed areas could contain ice near the surface and deeper in reservoirs. Landing just outside Haworth will provide enough solar power to the lander’s solar arrays, while giving the payload instruments access to the crater. The Haworth area is expected to have cold traps of water, methane, ammonia, and carbon dioxide, and other volatiles that could be resources for future human explorers and which will help scientists understand lunar evolution. Several instruments will help assess lunar surface composition and evaluate radiation levels. This summer, Masten will complete a required review of the lander, and NASA will continue to design and build agency payloads for the flight.

Intuitive Machines will fly the agency’s PRIME-1 payload to the Moon next year, which is a precursor instrument to a future water mapping robot – the Volatiles Investigating Polar Exploration Rover or VIPER - in development at NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston.

Astrobotic was selected last year to fly NASA’s VIPER rover to the Moon in late 2023 using its new Griffin lander. The company will deliver a mockup of the lander to the agency’s Johnson Space Center in Houston in February for a series of test to ensure the rover and its lander will operate seamlessly together when on the Moon.

The agency is also planning an upcoming announcement to select a provider to deliver a suite of 10 instruments to a non-polar region of the Moon in 2023. Additionally, NASA will announce instrument selections this year under the Payloads and Research Investigations on the Surface of the Moon (PRISM) solicitation for future CLPS flights followed by bidding to deliver them later.

Future NASA payloads delivered to the Moon on CLPS flights could include other rovers, power sources, and science experiments, including the technology demonstrations to be infused into the Artemis program.

“The many science instruments and technology demonstrations that NASA will land on the Moon using the CLPS initiative, will pave the way for scientific research by the Artemis moon walkers,” said Joel Kearns, Deputy Associate Administrator for Exploration of NASA’s Science Mission Directorate.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/lunar-traffic-to-pick-up-as-nasa-readies-for-robotic-commercial-moon-deliveries
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #355 on: 02/24/2021 03:35 pm »
Quote from: Marcia Smith
Lueders: CLPS is great bc opens the door for new ppl to get involved. Exciting to see range of ppl who now see themselves as explorers. My goal is one day to have every single person in the US and on Earth realize that you are an explorer and you need to join our team.

https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1364613889388908547

Quote from: Marcia Smith
Sean Mahoney of Masten (one of the CLPS providers): accessibility of Moon has completely changed now. Speed is your ally, risk is your friend. A flawed instrument on the Moon is superior to the perfect instrument in the lab.

But also, testing is truth.

https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1364624490114727946
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #356 on: 03/24/2021 11:08 pm »
Quote from: Space Australia
@CSIRO & @Int_Machines have just signed a 5-yr contract — to use the iconic Parkes radio telescope for upcoming exploration Moon missions as part of @NASA's CLPS starting late 2021.

https://spaceaustralia.com/news/parkes-radio-telescope-assist-commercial-lunar-missions

https://twitter.com/SpaceAusDotCom/status/1374826760374681601

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #357 on: 04/03/2021 03:22 am »
Quote from: David Masten
CLPS is paying around $1mm [per kg] right now with reasonable power and size. I see similar price for next 5 [years]. Maybe $200-500k in 10 years. 20-30 years is [anybody's guess]

https://twitter.com/dmasten/status/1378180693981728772

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #358 on: 04/03/2021 03:34 am »
Quote from: Greg Autry
[Price of 1 kg delivered to the Moon] I happen to be working on this. Depends on qty of course. Assuming commercial heavy launch and lander my estimate:
5 years = $1-2m down, $20-30m back
10 years = $500k down, $5m back
IDK beyond but I hope a whole lot less

https://twitter.com/GregWAutry/status/1378186101567811585
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #359 on: 04/13/2021 02:12 pm »
See below:

Quote from: Astrobotic
We're going to the Moon again - this time with @SpaceX!  Falcon Heavy will carry our Griffin lunar lander to the Moon in late 2023 along with NASA’s water-hunting Volatiles Investigating Polar Exploration Rover (VIPER).

https://twitter.com/astrobotic/status/1381955810213912577


Astrobotic selects Falcon Heavy to launch NASA’s VIPER lunar rover:
https://spacenews.com/astrobotic-selects-falcon-heavy-to-launch-nasas-viper-lunar-rover/

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