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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #260 on: 08/19/2019 09:21 pm »
Astrobotic's first CLPS mission will be on the first flight of Vulcan.

Selected through a "competitive commercial procurement" process.
 
https://www.astrobotic.com/2019/8/19/astrobotic-selects-united-launch-alliance-vulcan-centaur-rocket-to-launch-its-first-mission-to-the-moon
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #261 on: 08/23/2019 03:19 pm »
ARTICLE: ispace alters Moon mission timelines for greater response to customer needs -

By Chris Gebhardt (@ChrisG_NSF)

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/08/ispace-moon-mission-timelines-greater-response-customer/

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1164920017420541953
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #262 on: 08/23/2019 03:33 pm »
Nonsense. The Moon's antipode (the approximate point at which you want to perform TLI) moves from 28.5° south to 28.5° north and back to 28.5° south every 28 days.

They are starting from GTO. If it's after the plane change, i.e. just a circularisation burn away from GEO, which might make sense for a ride-share, then they are in equatorial orbit. Then their description sounds correct.
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #263 on: 08/23/2019 05:13 pm »
Nonsense. The Moon's antipode (the approximate point at which you want to perform TLI) moves from 28.5° south to 28.5° north and back to 28.5° south every 28 days.

They are starting from GTO. If it's after the plane change, i.e. just a circularisation burn away from GEO, which might make sense for a ride-share, then they are in equatorial orbit. Then their description sounds correct.
GTO is generally at an inclination slightly less than the latitude of the lunch site.  A large plane change is best done as high as possible, where the orbital velocity is less, although the cosine rule means that you can get a small inclination change essentially for free with each previous burn.

It is, however, true that the argument of perigee of a GTO will be either 0° or 180°, as this also reduces the orbital velocity at the higher-altitude node crossing.  So, while the orbit is not equatorial, the apogee will be over the equator.

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #264 on: 08/23/2019 06:16 pm »
GTO is generally at an inclination slightly less than the latitude of the lunch site.  A large plane change is best done as high as possible, where the orbital velocity is less, although the cosine rule means that you can get a small inclination change essentially for free with each previous burn.

It is, however, true that the argument of perigee of a GTO will be either 0° or 180°, as this also reduces the orbital velocity at the higher-altitude node crossing.  So, while the orbit is not equatorial, the apogee will be over the equator.

That's true. I believe that generally both the spacecraft and the launch vehicle do part of the plane change. But I've read that a few F9 launches did the complete plane change. If that's not the case here, then their description is slightly inaccurate.

But the general principle would be the same: they would be doing TLI from an orbit that wasn't optimised for their mission the way a normal parking orbit would be. They would therefore target the moon's next nodal crossing relative to their instantaneous orbital plane at TLI, unless that was less than about 3 days out, in which case they would target the one after that. They would not be doing a roughly antipodal departure as they would if they could launch straight into the moon's orbital plane. That wouldn't always be possible anyway, depending on the launch site and the point in the 18.6 year lunar cycle.
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #265 on: 08/24/2019 01:04 pm »
This old paper analyses the problem of transfer from GTO to the moon, and concludes that two daily 45 min windows are available.

Practical Aspects of Transfer from GTO to Lunar Orbit

A recent slide deck using far more advanced techniques:

Ways to the Moon: Trajectory Options From Earth GEO Transfer Orbit to the Moon

NASA even has a patented approach that it's willing to license:

Method for Transferring a Spacecraft from Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit to Lunar Orbit
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« Reply #266 on: 08/25/2019 08:39 am »
Deep Space Systems Files Protest Over NASA CLPs Task Order

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Deep Space Systems has filed an appeal with the Government Accountability Office (GAO) over NASA’s decision to award Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) contracts to three rival companies.

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #267 on: 08/27/2019 09:54 pm »
CLPS On-Ramp Industry Day Pre-proposal Conference Presentation has been posted today:

https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=de8a03288287abbb01b3707c425b338a

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #268 on: 08/28/2019 06:29 am »
CLPS On-Ramp Industry Day Pre-proposal Conference Presentation has been posted today:

https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=de8a03288287abbb01b3707c425b338a

They've been more specific about what "multiple shots on goal" means: two deliveries a year.

Proposals due 29 August, awards expected NET October 15.

CLPS on-ramps will now be every year, sounds like, thanks to the 2024 moon goal.

Info on the planned NASA-built, mid-size rover landing NET 2022:

  * VIPER (Volatiles Investigations Polar Exploration Rover)
  * Specs
    - Rover+Payload: 300kg
    - X-band comms: 300kbs directional, 2kbs omni
    - Dimensions: 1.5m x 1.5m x 2m
    - Power: 300W
    - Max speed: 25cm/s. (Prospecting: 10 cm/s) (I'm not positive what "prospecting speed" means)

  * Will be delivered by a new "enhanced capability" CLPS lander
    - Expected award for those "enhanced lander services": October 2019

  * Rover Development Timeline:
    - Planned south pole landing in late 2022
    - Quote: "Date requires a new approach to executing Agency missions"
    - Will use the former Resource Prospector mission team.
    - FY19: System Requirements Review
    - FY20: Preliminary Design Review
    - FY21: Critical Design Review
    - FY22: Integration and Test
    - FY23: Launch

  * Goals: Ground truth for volatiles at the pole, long-duration operation (nominal 75-100 day mission)
  * Four instruments:
    - Neutron Spectrometer
    - Near-Infrared Volatiles Spectrometer
    - Mass Spectrometer
    - Regolith and Ice Drill

  * In the presentation, there are two slides labeled "VIPER Progress" showing pictures of a rover in test
    - Every picture is a shot of Resource Prospector tests from 2016
    - And the instruments described above are RP instruments.
  * Just to be clear, it looks like Resource Prospector survived cancellation with a vengeance.
  * If it costs as much as RP was expected to, that's around $250M sans lander.

Non-VIPER rover plans:

  * Will send out a study task order in parallel to VIPER work for CLPS providers to do rover work
  * Also will send out a rover RFI to industry
  * Also will investigate international partners providing rovers
  * Will invest in long-duration rovers
  * After VIPER, expecting follow-on missions w/ commercial rovers every ~2 years

SIMPLEx finalist that could be a potential smallsat CLPS ridealong: Lunar Trailblazer (will map/measure surface water)

Lander payloads:

  * 13 NASA payloads and 12 non-NASA payloads already selected
  * Future payloads will be selected every year-ish
  * Opportunities will be afforded for international payloads
  * Instead of providers picking from a list of payloads, will try to move to PI-directed suites of payloads
    - Just to try and make each mission make cohesive sense and have payloads build on each other's strengths
  * Lots of notional tech demonstration payloads mentioned, including fission power

(Attached is a shot of VIPER)
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #269 on: 08/28/2019 08:42 am »
I've enhanced and enlarged the image of VIPER so that can see it a bit better.
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #270 on: 10/02/2019 09:16 pm »
Intuitive Machines has completed their downselect to Falcon 9.

Also, they've started posting short Nova-C videos on their youtube channel.

Very few people have seen them.  They've been up for about a month, but most are getting 30-60 views per video.

Highlights are:

August 29th Update
Mounting the engine to the test stand
A produced hot fire test video and a raw video B-roll version
A walkaround of a full-scale mockup of the vehicle
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #271 on: 10/02/2019 10:21 pm »
Intuitive Machines needs to put Nasaspaceflight on their mailing list.

In a few weeks there should be an all up test of the Nova-C.

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #272 on: 10/02/2019 11:17 pm »
Also there's a lot of activity on the Intuitive Machines Twitter.

It looks like they got themselves a serious media team around the end of August.

Highlights, to avoid clogging this post with tweets:

* They're doing hot fires around once a week now.
* Additive manufacturing is used in main engine and RCS thrusters.
* Science Instruments on first Nova-C mission:
  - Navigation doppler lidar (velocity range sensor)
  - Stereo cameras (for landing dust plume)
  - Lunar Node 1 (nav demo payload)
  - Radio Wave Observations (low freq)
  - Lunar retro reflector

Videos (Hot Fire #11 (Oct 1st), Hot Fire #10 (Sept 26th), Mobile Test Stand Sizzle Reel)
https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1179090941799522304
https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1177289850124480512
https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1173652402014236674

A shot of their testing infrastructure :)
https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1172513599136264197

Edit: reduced the number of tweets in this post
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #273 on: 10/05/2019 06:04 am »
A glimpse into attempts to broaden the business case for the CLPS landers, via a solid Spaceflight Now article on Intuitive's launch vehicle downselect to F9.

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In May, Altemus said the Nova-C lander is fully funded to complete development for its first mission. Martin reiterated that in an interview Wednesday.

About 121 pounds (55 kilograms) of the lander’s 220-pound payload allotment is filled for the first mission.

“We’re actively pursuing other customers to fill up that remainder,” Martin said.

“For this first mission, the business case closes, but we prefer not to launch with empty space,” he said.

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #274 on: 10/05/2019 04:08 pm »
That conduit and control box sitting on cinder blocks? That's awesome.
Just do enough to get the job done and worry about the test itself.

Main Engine Cutoff did an interview with some folks from Intuitive a month or so ago. Really sharp folks, lots of them had their teeth cut in the Morpheus lander program. There they learned how to do more with less and move faster than anything else happening in the public space sector.

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #275 on: 10/09/2019 05:20 am »
The Deep Space Systems protest of the first task order award was denied on September 26th.

Denial: https://www.gao.gov/products/B-417714

https://twitter.com/13ericralph31/status/1181007636273098752

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Comes in a roundabout manner but a Sept. 26 GAO protest denial included a NASA statement that SpaceX is now advertising Falcon 9's base price as $52M, down from $62M. Musk has already floated "$50M" but NASA's acknowledgment is a strong sign that it really is the new base price.

The protest in question came from Deep Space Systems (DSS), one of several companies that competed for NASA's first round of commercial lunar lander payload (CLPS) contracts.
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #276 on: 10/09/2019 05:30 am »
From the protest decision just above, we also get a glimpse of a previously non-public task order selection table.

Orbit Beyond is Offeror A.  Offeror B could be Lockheed.

Edit: Added some context from the protest denial document.
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The contracting officer, acting as the source selection authority (SSA), reviewed the evaluation team’s results and performed an independent comparative assessment of proposals against the solicitation’s evaluation criteria.  The SSA concluded that IM, Astrobotic, Offeror A, and Offeror B offered “considerable qualitative advantage(s)” over the other proposals.  Narrowing his consideration to these most highly-rated proposals, the SSA found that while Offeror B’s price was nearly double that of the other highly-rated proposals, its proposal did not provide “commensurate value to NASA that would justify” the payment of such a substantial price premium.  As a result, the SSA found that the proposals of IM, Astrobotic, and Offeror A represented the best value.
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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #277 on: 10/09/2019 05:42 am »
Looks like Intuitive did their 12th Hot Fire Test today.

Their goal was to do them weekly, and they seem to be matching that pace.

https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1181621830752374785

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #278 on: 10/09/2019 06:00 am »
From the protest decision just above, we also get a glimpse of a previously non-public task order selection table.

Orbit Beyond is Offeror A.  Offeror B could be Lockheed.

Edit: Added some context from the protest denial document.
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The contracting officer, acting as the source selection authority (SSA), reviewed the evaluation team’s results and performed an independent comparative assessment of proposals against the solicitation’s evaluation criteria.  The SSA concluded that IM, Astrobotic, Offeror A, and Offeror B offered “considerable qualitative advantage(s)” over the other proposals.  Narrowing his consideration to these most highly-rated proposals, the SSA found that while Offeror B’s price was nearly double that of the other highly-rated proposals, its proposal did not provide “commensurate value to NASA that would justify” the payment of such a substantial price premium.  As a result, the SSA found that the proposals of IM, Astrobotic, and Offeror A represented the best value.

The remaining options for offeror B (for anyone who hasn't memorized the whole list)

Lockheed
Draper
Masten
Firefly
Moon Express

Of those, I'd bet on Lockheed for the overpriced by a factor of 2 proposal ;) I'd also expect them to have relatively low risk in reliability and schedule, so I'd also expect Lockheed to be one of the "final 4" best proposals based on risk and schedule.

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Re: Commercial Lunar Payload Services Program (CLPS)
« Reply #279 on: 10/24/2019 09:12 pm »
More Intuitive news: they've been selected to provide a prototype main engine for Boeing's HLS bid, which they already have a 30-second firing of: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FhGoRwi0cB8

You can compare that to their CLPS engine here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WB5nq6kGyV8

They'll also be providing RCS engines.

In wider news, there's a long Q&A that was put out for the new CLPS on-ramp, which is attached.

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