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#280
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 09 Jun, 2020 18:28
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View of the MLP conversion
Update for today
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#281
by
Hog
on 11 Jun, 2020 17:58
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Video of train carrying 2 inert OmegA core stage segments and 10 fueled flight ready SLS booster segments. The OmegA segments are on the 2 "red" coloured 12 axle cars at the start and the end of the consist. The other 10 8 axle cars are carrying the SLS segments.
Tells you how much heavier the OmegA segments are compared to the 5 segment SLS SRM segments.
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#282
by
jstrotha0975
on 11 Jun, 2020 18:33
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Why are there boxcars between the solid segment cars?
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#283
by
The Vorlon
on 11 Jun, 2020 18:37
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Somehow, I don't thing you want to concentrate flammables too much, and it must spread the mass out too.
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#284
by
russianhalo117
on 11 Jun, 2020 18:43
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Why are there boxcars between the solid segment cars?
They are spacer ballast cars. That is their sole purpose and all cars of this consist are permanently assigned to these transport sorties.
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#285
by
Stan-1967
on 11 Jun, 2020 19:53
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Pause the frames & note the instructions on each SRB containing Boxcar.
"DO NOT HUMP" is a command that tells railroad employees in a freight yard not to send
a freight car so labeled over a railroad hill called a "hump," a man-made structure for sorting freight cars by gravity. During this sorting process, called "humping," an individual car rolls down the hump (hill) onto a destination-specific yard track until it collides with (couples to) cars already sitting on the track. The impact of this coupling is too strenuous for certain types of loads and for some types of freight cars.I sincerely appreciate the sense of irony that railway professionals must have to use this term for gravitationally challenged loads. Way too strenuous indeed!
Captures my feelings regarding SRB's perfectly, but I sincerely wish NGIS good luck with OmegA. Lols! Taking one for the team I guess.
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#286
by
edkyle99
on 11 Jun, 2020 21:46
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Why are there boxcars between the solid segment cars?
May be to reduce loads on some bridges by spreading out the weight. A guess.
- Ed Kyle
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#287
by
Hog
on 11 Jun, 2020 21:55
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Why are there boxcars between the solid segment cars?
May be to reduce loads on some bridges by spreading out the weight. A guess.
- Ed Kyle
That is exactly why.
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#288
by
jacqmans
on 16 Jun, 2020 12:53
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NASA KSC photos taken on June 10th, which show MLP construction
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#289
by
mainmind
on 18 Jun, 2020 14:49
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Video of train carrying 2 inert OmegA core stage segments and 10 fueled flight ready SLS booster segments. The OmegA segments are on the 2 "red" coloured 12 axle cars at the start and the end of the consist. The other 10 8 axle cars are carrying the SLS segments.
Tells you how much heavier the OmegA segments are compared to the 5 segment SLS SRM segments.
Are the inert OmegA segments going to Florida for VAB and MLB processing testing? Are they first stage or second stage segments?
Thanks
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#290
by
russianhalo117
on 18 Jun, 2020 15:25
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Video of train carrying 2 inert OmegA core stage segments and 10 fueled flight ready SLS booster segments. The OmegA segments are on the 2 "red" coloured 12 axle cars at the start and the end of the consist. The other 10 8 axle cars are carrying the SLS segments.
Tells you how much heavier the OmegA segments are compared to the 5 segment SLS SRM segments.
Are the inert OmegA segments going to Florida for VAB and MLB processing testing? Are they first stage or second stage segments?
Thanks
Yes. We publicly don't know yet however at least one is the aft segment of the first stage. Simulator pieces like for SLS can provide the rest.
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#291
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 08 Jul, 2020 08:08
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#292
by
Hog
on 08 Jul, 2020 11:45
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Instagram post showing the MLP current condition:
Just as a refresher for everyone, Ron's excellent pics are of Mobile Launcher-3 (MLP-3) as it was named for Shuttle usage, which was originally named Mobile Launcher-1 (ML-1) for Apollo.
Hopefully we see OmegA launch from its surface when its hard-down on Launch Complex-39B(LC-39B) next year. 2021 is going to be an exciting year for space launch.
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#293
by
Markstark
on 07 Aug, 2020 21:27
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#294
by
sdsds
on 07 Aug, 2020 21:32
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Today's award covers NSSL needs through 2026. NG can realign the OmegA effort to match up with the next phase of the procurement.
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#295
by
JEF_300
on 07 Aug, 2020 21:43
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I don't see any other payloads for OmegA out there, so I suspect we'll see an announcement from NGSS about suspending work on it in the next couple of months, similar to what happened to Liberty after ATK lost commercial crew.
Which is a shame, because I really would've loved to watch an OmegA launch.
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#296
by
ChrisWilson68
on 07 Aug, 2020 21:51
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I think the only thing that can save OmegA is a protest of the contract award. But the chances of winning a protest for OmegA are slim. They've always been considered a long shot. So I doubt NG will file a protest.
I agree with those who have said here that OmegA will likely be shelved. I think it will be announced as a temporary freeze in the program, but it will never come out of that freeze. It might be talked about again for the next round of contracts, but no progress on it will have been made by then and it will be even less competitive, so there will be nothing more than talk.
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#297
by
JEF_300
on 07 Aug, 2020 21:56
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Quoting this post with Northrop Grumman's statement from the NSSL phase 2 thread.
twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1291852094119514112
I've reached out to Northrop Grumman and Blue Origin for comment on the NSSL Phase 2 results.
Notably, CEO Bob Smith told me that Blue Origin will absolutely continue to develop New Glenn even if it lost NSSL Phase 2.
https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1291853962971361288
Northrop Grumman: "We are disappointed by this decision. We are confident we submitted a strong proposal that reflected our extensive space launch experience and provided value to our customer..." cnbc.com/2020/08/07/spa…
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#298
by
joek
on 07 Aug, 2020 22:56
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So OmegA dead or are there other lifelines? I was looking forward to having a neighbor in HB-2.
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Very likely dead. They lost award to ULA and SpaceX... extremely unlikely life will get better for them unless ULA fumbles badly. If that happens, they would still likely face Blue. If Blue comes anywhere close to meeting their objectives, OmegA is toast (never mind ULA or SpaceX).
In short, don't think NG has what it takes. They have suckled at the government teat far too long and have no idea what it takes to compete. Let OmegA die a silent death without NG's BS.
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#299
by
spacenut
on 07 Aug, 2020 23:38
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Yes, solids are heavy, expensive, and expendable. Newer rockets are reusable, and if ULA gets ti act together, can salvage the BE-4 engines by pod/parachute that they were going to do to start with.