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2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« on: 04/14/2018 12:33 am »
The House released its 2018 NASA Authorization bill:

https://science.house.gov/sites/republicans.science.house.gov/files/documents/HR5503BabinNASAAuthorizationAct_1.pdf

Full Committee Markup
Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - 10:00am
Location: 2318 Rayburn House Office Building

https://science.house.gov/legislation/markups/full-committee-markup-2
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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #1 on: 04/14/2018 01:47 am »

*2018
1.35B for Orion
2.15B for SLS


*2019
2.15B for Orion
1.35 for SLS

A rather expensive typo.

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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #4 on: 04/17/2018 01:37 am »
I might be missing how spending 3.5xB USD on SLS/Orion is an "increased emphasis on commercial partnerships"...
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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #5 on: 04/17/2018 01:59 am »
I might be missing how spending 3.5xB USD on SLS/Orion is an "increased emphasis on commercial partnerships"...

I think that they mean for future stuff: commercial habitats in LEO, commercial cargo to BLEO and commercial cargo Moon landers. Gerst mentionned that commercial crew (in addition to Orion) to the LOP-G was also a possibility but I am skeptical about that one actually happening.
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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #6 on: 04/17/2018 07:29 pm »
I might be missing how spending 3.5xB USD on SLS/Orion is an "increased emphasis on commercial partnerships"...

I think that they mean for future stuff: commercial habitats in LEO, commercial cargo to BLEO and commercial cargo Moon landers. Gerst mentionned that commercial crew (in addition to Orion) to the LOP-G was also a possibility but I am skeptical about that one actually happening.

Assuming Jeff Foust's article is accurate (usually a good assumption), none of the things youmentioned are included:
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“In planning and carrying out space exploration missions, the Administrator shall, to the greatest extent practicable, prioritize the acquisition and use of space products provided by a United States commercial provider or through a public-private partnership with a United States commercial provider,” one section of the bill states. It defines “space products” as a tangible good, such as propellant or water, that is both required for space exploration activities and “originates in outer space.”

Another section of the bill includes similar language calling for the use of “commercial in-space infrastructure” to support exploration missions. Such infrastructure is specifically defined as being located more than 320,000 kilometers from the Earth’s surface, ruling out facilities in Earth orbit but including those at the Earth-Moon L-1 Lagrange point, approximately 325,000 kilometers from the Earth, as well as on or in orbit around the moon.

Well, maybe the Lunar lander could be included once you put it at L-1 or beyond.
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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #7 on: 04/17/2018 07:47 pm »
The bill is not inconsistent with these things either and there is also this provision which specifically mentions commercial LEO development (and by that, they mean commercial habitats):

Quote from: bill
Section 202 (e) AUTHORIZED FUNDING.—Subject to the avail
9 ability of appropriations, shall make available at least
10 $150,000,000 for fiscal year 2019 for commercial low-
11 Earth orbit development out of the LEO and Spaceflight
12 Operations account.
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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #8 on: 04/18/2018 01:44 pm »
SST Committee Approves Bipartisan NASA Authorization Act of 2018 (26 to 7):
https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/sst-committee-approves-nasa-authorization-act-2018

A number of amendments to the bill were approved:
https://science.house.gov/legislation/markups/full-committee-markup-2
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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #9 on: 04/18/2018 04:31 pm »
Summation here.

House committee approved revised NASA authorization bill

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The markup of the bill, though, was interrupted by a recess — originally planned to last just five minutes but extending for more than a half-hour — where Republican and Democratic leaders of the committee privately discussed changes in the bill. When the markup session resumed, the committee’s ranking member, Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas), expressed her displeasure on how the “deeply flawed” bill was developed.

Johnson, in her remarks, criticized the content of the bill, including both Earth science cuts and its endorsement of administration’s space exploration plans without any hearings by the committee to discuss them. She also noted language in the bill that authorizes funding to search for “technosignatures” of alien life. “The majority slashes funding for programs that help humans here on Earth, and instead prioritizes spending money to find space aliens,” she said.

http://spacenews.com/house-committee-approved-revised-nasa-authorization-bill/

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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #10 on: 04/19/2018 03:32 am »
It seems that some of the commercial measures were watered down through these amendments.

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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #11 on: 04/20/2018 03:19 am »
It seems that some of the commercial measures were watered down through these amendments.

Do you know if any of the commercial lunar funding was impacted?

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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #12 on: 04/20/2018 12:34 pm »
Would this bill or anything else prevent NASA from issuing a Request for Information on launch services in support of payloads to Cis-Lunar space or the Moon itself, say starting in 2022-2024, or soonest?  How about depot architectures or exploration architectures in general?  He could commission an exploration study with commercial interests at the table, like VSE linked below, but with public-private partnerships and an open architecture that leverages these capabilities.
https://history.nasa.gov/Bush%20SEP.htm

Admin Bridenstine has discussed taking advantages of such commercial opportunities...
let's see if/when/how he pushes public-private partnerships.
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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #13 on: 04/20/2018 04:06 pm »
It seems that some of the commercial measures were watered down through these amendments.
So no change from normal then?

That always happens.

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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #15 on: 04/22/2018 11:36 am »
The fact sheet (first reference) is a concise and timely (up to date as of last week, I think) summary of the NASA budget and planning situation.
A must read...
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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #16 on: 04/22/2018 03:25 pm »
The fact sheet (first reference) is a concise and timely (up to date as of last week, I think) summary of the NASA budget and planning situation.
A must read...

If you mean the SpacePolicyOnline one that yg1968 lists, which is written by Marcia S. Smith, then I heartily agree. Wonderful overview of how we got to where we are today.
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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #17 on: 04/22/2018 11:51 pm »
The fact sheet (first reference) is a concise and timely (up to date as of last week, I think) summary of the NASA budget and planning situation.
A must read...

If you mean the SpacePolicyOnline one that yg1968 lists, which is written by Marcia S. Smith, then I heartily agree. Wonderful overview of how we got to where we are today.

Yes, that's it.  Here is the link again:
https://spacepolicyonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/FY2019-nasa-budget-fact-sheet-apr-21-2018.pdf
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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #18 on: 08/01/2018 03:10 pm »
There was a hearing last week related to the Senate's version of the NASA Authorization bill:

Destination Mars – Putting American Boots on the Surface of the Red Planet

https://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2018/7/destination-mars-putting-american-boots-on-the-surface-of-the-red-planet

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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #19 on: 08/01/2018 03:11 pm »
Here is an article by Jeff Foust on the Senate's hearing:
https://spacenews.com/senators-seek-focus-on-mars-in-nasas-exploration-plans/

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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #20 on: 08/01/2018 06:07 pm »
There was a hearing last week related to the Senate's version of the NASA Authorization bill:

Destination Mars – Putting American Boots on the Surface of the Red Planet

https://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2018/7/destination-mars-putting-american-boots-on-the-surface-of-the-red-planet

Discussion thread here.

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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #21 on: 08/01/2018 09:42 pm »
Another hearing related to the Senate version of the 2018 NASA Authorization bill:

The Search for Life: Utilizing Science to Explore our Solar System and Make New Discoveries

https://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/hearings?ID=190E36A3-8F84-4455-8848-C3BDEC56569B
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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #22 on: 08/03/2018 02:32 am »
Archived video of the scientific priorities hearing from C-Span (same hearing as above but this video works):
https://www.c-span.org/video/?449266-1/senate-commerce-subcommittee-holds-hearing-nasas-scientific-priorities
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Re: 2018 NASA Authorization Bill
« Reply #23 on: 08/03/2018 02:06 pm »
Here is an article by Jeff Foust on the Senate hearing linked above:
https://spacenews.com/senate-science-hearing-debates-effectiveness-of-decadal-surveys/
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