Author Topic: FAILURE: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur (UPDATES)  (Read 163378 times)

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #160 on: 10/11/2018 09:21 am »
replay from NASA

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #161 on: 10/11/2018 09:22 am »
Launch of Soyuz MS-10

A different view than above, Check the video at 2:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnQlj73NIm4?t=001



« Last Edit: 10/11/2018 09:24 am by catdlr »
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #162 on: 10/11/2018 09:22 am »
SAR has contact with the crew. They are alive and have landed.
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #163 on: 10/11/2018 09:26 am »
SAR has contact with the crew. They are alive and have landed.
Good news!!!

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #164 on: 10/11/2018 09:26 am »
Landed 20 km east of Tsacheztan (spelling incorrect!).
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #165 on: 10/11/2018 09:26 am »
At first glance, it looks like one of the boosters cuts out early... an asymmetrical booster sep follows...

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #166 on: 10/11/2018 09:27 am »
Its really good to know that Soyuz has the capability to ensure the safe return of its crew in case of a failure at any point of the entire ascent profile. Waiting for visuals of crew being extracted from the capsule in good health and condition!
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #167 on: 10/11/2018 09:29 am »
Is it only me or does the rocket seemed to go sideways after booster sep? Guidance then wrestled it back to prograde again..

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #168 on: 10/11/2018 09:29 am »
Search and rescue are now about one hour from landing location.
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #169 on: 10/11/2018 09:30 am »
I meant the 1975 abort was much higher energy than today's (which happened at strap-on separation)
Strap-on separation? I thought the abort occurred after second and third stage separation, just like today's abort?

Today's abort was right at the lateral blocks separation, into Block A's main burn.
You're right of course. Got the stage numbers mixed up. I wonder what went wrong then, nothing much happens with the core stage after the strap-ons separate right? Just a coincidence that the core shut down right then, or some sort of strap-on separation anomaly?
« Last Edit: 10/11/2018 09:38 am by orbitaldebris »

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #170 on: 10/11/2018 09:32 am »

Launch of Soyuz MS-10


A different view than above, Check the video at 2:20


Thanks!

Clearly a deflagration of some sort, probably connected to the piece that separated from the stack a couple of seconds earlier. Escape tower should have jettisoned 40 seconds later precisely at that time so the abort should have happened in its low high-altitude mode.
« Last Edit: 10/11/2018 09:55 am by eeergo »
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #171 on: 10/11/2018 09:32 am »
Launch of Soyuz MS-10

A different view than above, Check the video at 2:20



Here is a clip and close up of the failure point

« Last Edit: 10/11/2018 09:36 am by Chris Bergin »
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #172 on: 10/11/2018 09:35 am »
From Anatoly Zak, spelling of area is Dzhezkzagan, in Kazakhstan

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #173 on: 10/11/2018 09:35 am »
NASA: Teams have confirmed the crew have landed and Nick Hague and Aleksey Ovchinin are in good condition. Search and rescue teams have been deployed to the landing site and are in contact with the crew.

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #175 on: 10/11/2018 09:37 am »
Flight Director is Mary Lawrence.
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #176 on: 10/11/2018 09:37 am »
From Anatoly Zak, spelling of area is Dzhezkzagan, in Kazakhstan

Dzhezkzagan
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #178 on: 10/11/2018 09:40 am »
Launch of Soyuz MS-10

A different view than above, Check the video at 2:20


If you look closely at precisely 2:20 in the video you see the first object departing the stack, although it's less obvious than in the NASA TV feed. Four seconds later the boosters cut off (nominally) and about a second later the deflagration starts.

EDIT: Looks like this was the nominal escape tower jettison!
« Last Edit: 10/11/2018 09:53 am by eeergo »
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #179 on: 10/11/2018 09:43 am »
https://twitter.com/Rogozin/status/1050318547438714880

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To find out the reason for the accident on the SOYUZ-FG ph My decision was formed by the state Commission. She's already started her Work. Telemetry is Studied. Rescue services work from the first second of the Accident. The Soyuz-ms emergency Rescue system Worked. The crew is Saved.

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