Author Topic: FAILURE: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur (UPDATES)  (Read 163380 times)

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #140 on: 10/11/2018 09:04 am »
Is this the first failure of a manned flight since STS-107?

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #141 on: 10/11/2018 09:04 am »
What sounded like the Morse beacon from the Soyuz was heard shortly after the failure. Does this imply the descent module was already separated at that point?

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #142 on: 10/11/2018 09:06 am »
launch replay from Roscosmos 1080p

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #144 on: 10/11/2018 09:07 am »
11:42:17 was the time of the failure (reviewing the abort)


Crew reported fairing was separated while they were enabling the ballistic descent abort manually on the capsule.
« Last Edit: 10/11/2018 09:10 am by eeergo »
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #145 on: 10/11/2018 09:07 am »
https://www.rt.com/news/440948-iss-emergency-landing-soyuz

The Russian Soyuz rocket carrying two crewmembers suffered a booster malfunction during launch in Kazakhstan.
“The boosters on a second-stage launching vehicle switched off,” the sources at the Baikonur Cosmodrome told Interfax news agency. “The crew is alive. They had made an emergency landing.”

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #146 on: 10/11/2018 09:08 am »

This was a much higher energy abort (beyond third stage ignition)

Discussions about abort and booster failure and wheeling weightlessness were ongoing right after booster separation, where as the animation on the Russian feed kept on showing the booster flying nominally. It can not have been at third stage separation - at that point they did switch the feeds and cut of the obviously pre-prepared animation.

I meant the 1975 abort was much higher energy than today's (which happened at strap-on separation)
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #147 on: 10/11/2018 09:08 am »
Assuming they have enough momentum to land back in Russia at the primary LZ?

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #148 on: 10/11/2018 09:15 am »
Helicopters took off at 3:55 CDT (08:55 UTC).
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #149 on: 10/11/2018 09:15 am »
There was an object separating (without contrail, which probably means not a premature strap-on separation) just before the scheduled strap-ons separation, about 2 seconds before the crew view shows them decelerating forward in their straps.

EDIT: This was probably a nominal escape tower jettison, which (in contrast to the Soyuz TMA version, which jettisoned it 40 seconds after booster separation) is performed right before cutoff of the lateral blocks.
« Last Edit: 10/11/2018 09:56 am by eeergo »
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #151 on: 10/11/2018 09:18 am »
I meant the 1975 abort was much higher energy than today's (which happened at strap-on separation)
Strap-on separation? I thought the abort occurred after second and third stage separation, just like today's abort?

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #152 on: 10/11/2018 09:18 am »
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Capsule reportedly on the ground after making descent and radio contact established with the crew.

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #153 on: 10/11/2018 09:19 am »
https://tass.ru/kosmos/5662166

TASS now quoting an anonymous source as saying that the Soyuz has safely landed in Kazakhstan and that there has been communication with the crew.

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #154 on: 10/11/2018 09:19 am »
NASA feed replay:

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #155 on: 10/11/2018 09:20 am »
Stills of the multiple pieces flying just after the crew view started showing them rocking (which I think is just the video feed being momentarily corrupted and showing the last few frames in a loop):
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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #156 on: 10/11/2018 09:20 am »
The Soyuz rocket is launched with Expedition 57 Flight Engineer Nick Hague of NASA and Flight Engineer Alexey Ovchinin of Roscosmos, Thursday, Oct. 11, 2018 at the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. Hague and Ovchinin will spend the next six months living and working aboard the International Space Station.

Photo Credit: (NASA/Bill Ingalls)

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #158 on: 10/11/2018 09:21 am »
Search and rescue teams are in contact with the crew who are in good condition!
« Last Edit: 10/11/2018 09:21 am by Steven Pietrobon »
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur
« Reply #159 on: 10/11/2018 09:21 am »
I meant the 1975 abort was much higher energy than today's (which happened at strap-on separation)
Strap-on separation? I thought the abort occurred after second and third stage separation, just like today's abort?

Today's abort was right at the lateral blocks separation, into Block A's main burn.
-DaviD-

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